Comments on: Leading From Behind II http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:52:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: The Mahablog » Hersh v. Kaplan http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-881 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:57:03 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-881 [...] Kaplan presents a case — a very strong case — showing that the administration is already planning to begin a withdrawal of troops from Iraq. It does seem to me that politicians from both parties are moving toward a consensus on withdrawal even as they accuse each other of treason and/or misleading. All the signs and portents say it’s time to talk exit strategy. [...] […] Kaplan presents a case — a very strong case — showing that the administration is already planning to begin a withdrawal of troops from Iraq. It does seem to me that politicians from both parties are moving toward a consensus on withdrawal even as they accuse each other of treason and/or misleading. All the signs and portents say it’s time to talk exit strategy. […]

]]> by: The Mahablog » Home Alone IV http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-857 Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:25:28 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-857 [...] Biden still blows, btw. The White House’s new rapid-response team quickly fired out a press release in which Scott McClellan asserted that “There is a strong consensus building in Washington in favor of President Bush’s strategy for victory in Iraq.” [...] […] Biden still blows, btw. The White House’s new rapid-response team quickly fired out a press release in which Scott McClellan asserted that “There is a strong consensus building in Washington in favor of President Bush’s strategy for victory in Iraq.” […]

]]> by: justme http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-840 Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:57:28 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-840 Hmmmm interesting idea A , however I think it would be a fun concept , just for a change to hold those in charge of everything accountable ,,,and ahhh,, what party is running things again? While I have my share of frustration with the "dems", I dont recall Biden or Kerry "cooking" intell in their very own homemade spy agency the OSP..I don't recall Biden or Kerry ignoring the CIA or other nations intell that proved some of the cooked intell untrue.. I think Biden and Kerry made their vote based on the cooked up intell the white house fed them.If I recall correctly at the time bush had also acted as though he would let inspectors do their work and that ,basically the consent of congress was leverage to let saddam know America meant business. Those who voted for the war made their big mistake in trusting the president to bring honest intell to the table when making a case for war. Yes by all means lets fire those who bought the lie rather than talk about the liars that told it to begin with... Hmmmm interesting idea A , however I think it would be a fun concept , just for a change to hold those in charge of everything accountable ,,,and ahhh,, what party is running things again?
While I have my share of frustration with the “dems”, I dont recall Biden or Kerry “cooking” intell in their very own homemade spy agency the OSP..I don’t recall Biden or Kerry ignoring the CIA or other nations intell that proved some of the cooked intell untrue..
I think Biden and Kerry made their vote based on the cooked up intell the white house fed them.If I recall correctly at the time bush had also acted as though he would let inspectors do their work and that ,basically the consent of congress was leverage to let saddam know America meant business.
Those who voted for the war made their big mistake in trusting the president to bring honest intell to the table when making a case for war.
Yes by all means lets fire those who bought the lie rather than talk about the liars that told it to begin with…

]]> by: A. Citizen http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-839 Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:35:58 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-839 If this nation is ever to get back on track all those who supported this war, all those who allowed the Bushists to evicerate the accompolishments of decades of progressive progress wether they are "Dems" or "ReThuglicans" need to be removed from office. My comment and ones similar are starting to appear at many blogs. This could become the new meme: Throw the bastards who let this happen out! All of them, starting with Biden and Kerry. If this nation is ever to get back on track all those who supported this war, all those who allowed the Bushists to evicerate the accompolishments of decades of progressive progress wether they are “Dems” or “ReThuglicans” need to be removed from office.

My comment and ones similar are starting to appear at many blogs. This could become the new meme: Throw the bastards who let this happen out!

All of them, starting with Biden and Kerry.

]]> by: merciless http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-834 Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:53:03 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-834 Right again, Maha. The question is, can we keep this tar baby attached firmly to the Bush administration's fingers, and deny the apologists and political cowards their frenzied efforts to rewrite this in order to (a) save their reputation and (b) keep the republicans in power? That's what worries me now. I mean, the White House just said that their pullout plan was remarkably similar to Congressman Murtha's. WTF???? Right again, Maha. The question is, can we keep this tar baby attached firmly to the Bush administration’s fingers, and deny the apologists and political cowards their frenzied efforts to rewrite this in order to (a) save their reputation and (b) keep the republicans in power?

That’s what worries me now. I mean, the White House just said that their pullout plan was remarkably similar to Congressman Murtha’s.

WTF????

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-831 Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:05:32 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-831 <i>Of course that’s how it will be remembered, and rightly so.</i> Remembered, hell. It IS a national embarrassment and has been from the beginning. Of course that’s how it will be remembered, and rightly so.

Remembered, hell. It IS a national embarrassment and has been from the beginning.

]]> by: paradoctor http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-828 Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:21:28 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-828 Please everybody, just blow off all expectation of this debacle not being "remembered as a national embarrassment". Of course that's how it will be remembered, and rightly so. Perhaps we can haggle a bit over the precise depth of our collective disgrace, but that's about it. Maybe it is just as well. Obviously we, as a nation, are incompetent at imperialism. I propose that we return to our core competence; democracy. Please everybody, just blow off all expectation of this debacle not being “remembered as a national embarrassment”. Of course that’s how it will be remembered, and rightly so. Perhaps we can haggle a bit over the precise depth of our collective disgrace, but that’s about it.

Maybe it is just as well. Obviously we, as a nation, are incompetent at imperialism. I propose that we return to our core competence; democracy.

]]> by: jerri http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-826 Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:48:02 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-826 Bush had victory in his hands and pissed on it. He went to Iraq for WMD and Saddam. Our millitary searched with the help of judy and verified there were no WMD. Bush got Saddam, his sons, moved the faimly some where, and rounded up just about everyone involed in Saddams government. At that point the mission was accomplished....what has followed is pure BS. Bush had victory in his hands and pissed on it. He went to Iraq for WMD and Saddam. Our millitary searched with the help of judy and verified there were no WMD. Bush got Saddam, his sons, moved the faimly some where, and rounded up just about everyone involed in Saddams government. At that point the mission was accomplished….what has followed is pure BS.

]]> by: The Mahablog » Is Victory Obsolete? http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-825 Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:32:28 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-825 [...] I want to follow up on the last post as well as this one from Friday on extracating ourselves out of Iraq. James Glanz writes in today&#8217;s New York Times about historical precedent for leaving without (necessarily) losing. &#8230; Even in the absence of a sudden and dramatic shift on the battlefield toward a definitive victory, there may still be a slight opening, as narrow as the eye of a needle, for the United States to slip through and leave Iraq in the near future in a way that will not be remembered as a national embarrassment. [...] […] I want to follow up on the last post as well as this one from Friday on extracating ourselves out of Iraq. James Glanz writes in today’s New York Times about historical precedent for leaving without (necessarily) losing. … Even in the absence of a sudden and dramatic shift on the battlefield toward a definitive victory, there may still be a slight opening, as narrow as the eye of a needle, for the United States to slip through and leave Iraq in the near future in a way that will not be remembered as a national embarrassment. […]

]]> by: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-824 Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:17:28 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2005/11/27/leading-from-behind-ii/#comment-824 Talk about being in Lala land...? http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10227027/ Talk about being in Lala land…?
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10227027/

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