Comments on: September 11 Cancelled the Bill of Rights http://www.mahablog.com/2005/12/16/september-11-cancelled-the-bill-of-rights/ Making the World Safe for Liberalism Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:24:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Ludwig Wits-end-genstein http://www.mahablog.com/2005/12/16/september-11-cancelled-the-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-1332 Ludwig Wits-end-genstein Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:33:19 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=240#comment-1332 The problem with the 4th Amendment is that word "unreasonable." The Bush administration has transcended archaic concepts like Reality and Reason. It's only against the Constitution if you believe in the concept of "reasonable" men, and the Bushies don't live in that Enlightenment-era ontology. That's how they can keep saying things that are logically self-cancelling to the average listener. Their searches and seizures aren't "unreasonable" they're "NONreasonable." They exist beyond "reason" and "unreason", in a power-crazed surreality the Framers never imagined our elected leaders would inhabit. The Madness of King George W. The problem with the 4th Amendment is that word “unreasonable.” The Bush administration has transcended archaic concepts like Reality and Reason. It’s only against the Constitution if you believe in the concept of “reasonable” men, and the Bushies don’t live in that Enlightenment-era ontology. That’s how they can keep saying things that are logically self-cancelling to the average listener.

Their searches and seizures aren’t “unreasonable” they’re “NONreasonable.” They exist beyond “reason” and “unreason”, in a power-crazed surreality the Framers never imagined our elected leaders would inhabit.

The Madness of King George W.

]]> By: George Orwell http://www.mahablog.com/2005/12/16/september-11-cancelled-the-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-1330 George Orwell Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:15:11 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=240#comment-1330 Hi guys. You might be interested in a report I did a few years ago regarding the NSA spying on us domestically. It includes a treatment of how they perform Internet email monitoring, by way of my describing how I monitored the emails of more than 7000 employees on Wall Street. http://orwellian.org/Cryptography_Manifesto.txt Hi guys.

You might be interested in a report I did a few years ago
regarding the NSA spying on us domestically.

It includes a treatment of how they perform Internet email
monitoring, by way of my describing how I monitored the
emails of more than 7000 employees on Wall Street.

http://orwellian.org/Cryptography_Manifesto.txt

]]> By: A Blog For All http://www.mahablog.com/2005/12/16/september-11-cancelled-the-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-1326 A Blog For All Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:12:39 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=240#comment-1326 <strong>Intelligence on Intelligence</strong> Are the new revelations about intel operations that involve collecting information from certain phone calls that originate or terminate outside the US really some profound change in policy? Is it a critical violation of civil rights or harming the ri... Intelligence on Intelligence

Are the new revelations about intel operations that involve collecting information from certain phone calls that originate or terminate outside the US really some profound change in policy? Is it a critical violation of civil rights or harming the ri…

]]> By: AnnieCat http://www.mahablog.com/2005/12/16/september-11-cancelled-the-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-1321 AnnieCat Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:22:47 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=240#comment-1321 Has everyone forgotten about Colleen Rowley? She was the FBA agent who knew about several of the 9/11 perpetrators PRIOR TO 9/11 but was not allowed to pursue them (stopped by FBI higher-ups and/or the CIA if I recall correctly). In other words, she had found out prior to 9/11 everything that was needed to stop 9/11 -- without the Patriot Act and its curtailment of civil liberties. I think Patriot Act opponents should point this out more. Has everyone forgotten about Colleen Rowley? She was the FBA agent who knew about several of the 9/11 perpetrators PRIOR TO 9/11 but was not allowed to pursue them (stopped by FBI higher-ups and/or the CIA if I recall correctly). In other words, she had found out prior to 9/11 everything that was needed to stop 9/11 — without the Patriot Act and its curtailment of civil liberties.

I think Patriot Act opponents should point this out more.

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