Comments on: Parallax View http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:47:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: a nut http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2468 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:18:04 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2468 Hey, I just found you when searching technorati. Glad I did because I was about to blog the same article (well, still am but you're linked in it now) which I think goes a little lite on the topic but that's just me. Glad I found you and I'll be back....(not like Ahnold). Hey, I just found you when searching technorati. Glad I did because I was about to blog the same article (well, still am but you’re linked in it now) which I think goes a little lite on the topic but that’s just me.

Glad I found you and I’ll be back….(not like Ahnold).

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2441 Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:31:38 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2441 <i>I vastly prefer the honesty of sites like LittleGreenFootballs.com - if someone disagrees you'd better have a good reason, not just some vague stuff about 'feeling' something about an issue. They also aren't afraid to try to find out info, instead of going on 'everyone knows' sorts of meme propagation. You have good reasons, they'll respect that.</i> Anon (brave use of real name, note): LGF only allows for registered users to comment, and registration has been turned off for a long time. I couldn't comment there even if I wanted to. I guess they don't respect me. Did I ever tell you about the time I had to shut down comments on THIS site because LGF was sending readers to swamp my site with hatespeech? That was fun. And absolutely true. Righties can be SO hypocritical ... I vastly prefer the honesty of sites like LittleGreenFootballs.com - if someone disagrees you’d better have a good reason, not just some vague stuff about ‘feeling’ something about an issue. They also aren’t afraid to try to find out info, instead of going on ‘everyone knows’ sorts of meme propagation. You have good reasons, they’ll respect that.

Anon (brave use of real name, note): LGF only allows for registered users to comment, and registration has been turned off for a long time. I couldn’t comment there even if I wanted to. I guess they don’t respect me.

Did I ever tell you about the time I had to shut down comments on THIS site because LGF was sending readers to swamp my site with hatespeech? That was fun. And absolutely true.

Righties can be SO hypocritical …

]]> by: Donna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2440 Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:03:31 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2440 Wow, I am glad that Anon did a post. I agree that persons who disagree with 'the crowd meme' should have a place in discussions, as long as there is thought and civility in the posed comments. A few days ago, in a first for me, I added a comment on a rightie site, California Conservative. The topic was the NSA warrantless wiretap. My post was thoughtful and civil, the opposite of shrill and strident. Sometime within 24 hours, I rechecked that site.. Though the site topic was still up, my comment had been deleted. I agree with you, Anon, that our country is best served by [at least] two opposing parties, just as those with differing opinions are best served with a forum that allows back and forth, from all sides, discussions on issues that affect us all. But, I had to laugh out loud at your last two sentences in which you concluded that Democrats aren't loyal to this COUNTRY, but rather to the PARTY. I see the opposite! How do you, Anon, explain the Republicans maneuvering in Congress these past few years, whereby they disallow ANY opposing views in as much as they are doing legislative decisionmaking in Republican-only conference committees? Being a Democrat, and part of roughly half the country's citizens, that means to me that the Republicans have effectively denied congressional representation to half of the COUNTRY. Anon, Wow, I am glad that Anon did a post. I agree that persons who disagree with ‘the crowd meme’ should have a place in discussions, as long as there is thought and civility in the posed comments.
A few days ago, in a first for me, I added a comment on a rightie site, California Conservative. The topic was the NSA warrantless wiretap. My post was thoughtful and civil, the opposite of shrill and strident. Sometime within 24 hours, I rechecked that site.. Though the site topic was still up, my comment had been deleted.

I agree with you, Anon, that our country is best served by [at least] two opposing parties, just as those with differing opinions are best served with a forum that allows back and forth, from all sides, discussions on issues that affect us all.

But, I had to laugh out loud at your last two sentences in which you concluded that Democrats aren’t loyal to this COUNTRY, but rather to the PARTY. I see the opposite!

How do you, Anon, explain the Republicans maneuvering in Congress these past few years, whereby they disallow ANY opposing views in as much as they are doing legislative decisionmaking in Republican-only conference committees?

Being a Democrat, and part of roughly half the country’s citizens, that means to me that the Republicans have effectively denied congressional representation to half of the COUNTRY.

Anon,

]]> by: Anon http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2439 Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:58:07 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2439 Ah, nice and self-congratulatory. "We have comments" - sure you do. DU and Kos have comments and make a very pointed practice of 'disappearing' comments that aren't echo-chamber quality - dissent is NOT tolerated. Same thing with the Indymedia sites - they'll 'hide' your post in a heartbeat if it contains anything that's considered contradictory to the data they try to present. But they don't 'delete' the posts, far from it. They just shove it through a door, drywall over the door, and pretend it doesn't exist. I vastly prefer the honesty of sites like LittleGreenFootballs.com - if someone disagrees you'd better have a good reason, not just some vague stuff about 'feeling' something about an issue. They also aren't afraid to try to find out info, instead of going on 'everyone knows' sorts of meme propagation. You have good reasons, they'll respect that. <font color=red>[Note from MAHA: Except that LGF requires registration to comment, and registration has been turned off for a long time. I couldn't comment there if I wanted to. I guess they don't respect me.]</font> Yep, I'm anonymous. I'm a troll. Delete this if you like, because it doesn't agree with your lockstep echo-chamber mentality. Start looking outside the echo chamber, and you'll understand why the Democrats are having problems. It's not because you aren't active enough - oh, you're more than active enough! It's because your message isn't resonating with the people. And it's not because your message isn't liberal enough, far from it. It's a message that's been tried, examined, and found wanting in relevance and application. Wondered why there was no groundswell of support for Borking Alito? Why there's no mass demonstrations against the NSA? Your message isn't being heeded, because it's not seen as truthful, accurate, or applicable. (Getting Kennedy to lecture Alito on ethics... damn, that was priceless. Can you POSSIBLY have a better figurehead?) But for heaven's sake, don't trust anything anyone tells you that isn't what 'everyone' already knows. After all, you know so much better than the folks who don't agree with you. (I take in point the Alito hearings. God, could you have come up with a more clueless bunch of ideological windbags? It showed the rotting, brain-dead corpse of the Democratic party far better than ANYTHING else.) The problem for you is - we won't be ruled by such as you. We've been slow to see just what you were - how corrupt and self-serving - but every day as you become more and more strident people are looking in the other direction. Your support isn't dropping because you're not extreme enough, though you might want to think so. The Democrats can either reform themselves, abandon the ideas and attitudes they've been pushing for the last 5-10 years, or join the Whigs up on the shelf of failed political parties. Personally, I'm sorry to see it. I think our country is best served by two opposing parties - but the parties have to be loyal to the COUNTRY as a whole, not just to their own party. And what I've seen of the Democrats in the last 30 years their loyalty is to the PARTY first, individual power second, contributors third - and the people of the country a distant fourth. <font color=red>[Note from MAHA: Notice that everything this guy says about Dems is actually much more true of Republicans, but he's way too much of a kool-aider to notice.]</font> Ah, nice and self-congratulatory. “We have comments” - sure you do. DU and Kos have comments and make a very pointed practice of ‘disappearing’ comments that aren’t echo-chamber quality - dissent is NOT tolerated.

Same thing with the Indymedia sites - they’ll ‘hide’ your post in a heartbeat if it contains anything that’s considered contradictory to the data they try to present. But they don’t ‘delete’ the posts, far from it. They just shove it through a door, drywall over the door, and pretend it doesn’t exist.

I vastly prefer the honesty of sites like LittleGreenFootballs.com - if someone disagrees you’d better have a good reason, not just some vague stuff about ‘feeling’ something about an issue. They also aren’t afraid to try to find out info, instead of going on ‘everyone knows’ sorts of meme propagation. You have good reasons, they’ll respect that.

[Note from MAHA: Except that LGF requires registration to comment, and registration has been turned off for a long time. I couldn’t comment there if I wanted to. I guess they don’t respect me.]

Yep, I’m anonymous. I’m a troll. Delete this if you like, because it doesn’t agree with your lockstep echo-chamber mentality. Start looking outside the echo chamber, and you’ll understand why the Democrats are having problems.

It’s not because you aren’t active enough - oh, you’re more than active enough! It’s because your message isn’t resonating with the people. And it’s not because your message isn’t liberal enough, far from it. It’s a message that’s been tried, examined, and found wanting in relevance and application. Wondered why there was no groundswell of support for Borking Alito? Why there’s no mass demonstrations against the NSA? Your message isn’t being heeded, because it’s not seen as truthful, accurate, or applicable. (Getting Kennedy to lecture Alito on ethics… damn, that was priceless. Can you POSSIBLY have a better figurehead?)

But for heaven’s sake, don’t trust anything anyone tells you that isn’t what ‘everyone’ already knows. After all, you know so much better than the folks who don’t agree with you. (I take in point the Alito hearings. God, could you have come up with a more clueless bunch of ideological windbags? It showed the rotting, brain-dead corpse of the Democratic party far better than ANYTHING else.) The problem for you is - we won’t be ruled by such as you.

We’ve been slow to see just what you were - how corrupt and self-serving - but every day as you become more and more strident people are looking in the other direction. Your support isn’t dropping because you’re not extreme enough, though you might want to think so.

The Democrats can either reform themselves, abandon the ideas and attitudes they’ve been pushing for the last 5-10 years, or join the Whigs up on the shelf of failed political parties. Personally, I’m sorry to see it. I think our country is best served by two opposing parties - but the parties have to be loyal to the COUNTRY as a whole, not just to their own party. And what I’ve seen of the Democrats in the last 30 years their loyalty is to the PARTY first, individual power second, contributors third - and the people of the country a distant fourth.

[Note from MAHA: Notice that everything this guy says about Dems is actually much more true of Republicans, but he’s way too much of a kool-aider to notice.]

]]> by: Duckman GR http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2435 Sun, 29 Jan 2006 04:42:58 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2435 Notice the biggest difference in that example. Radio Talk Blowhards talking to the masses Lefty Blogger Masses talking to Any and Everybody. We have comments, they don't. We like to hash something out and find agreement, they like to dictate. Pretty much says it all. Notice the biggest difference in that example.

Radio Talk Blowhards talking to the masses

Lefty Blogger Masses talking to Any and Everybody.

We have comments, they don’t. We like to hash something out and find agreement, they like to dictate.

Pretty much says it all.

]]> by: erinyes http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2431 Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:30:18 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2431 Swami nailed it. We'd better be planning for ten years out, with what is happening in the Middle East, West Africa, the Caspian Basin, China, and South America, who ever is in charge will have his work cut out for him. The new great game has begun. To complicate matters, it is very likely the the Govt. of Mexico may implode. Their only sources of revenue are Tourism, Oil exports, and dope. The oil is in decline, and if our economy goes south, the tourism is gone also. That will leave dope and border issues. Swami nailed it.
We’d better be planning for ten years out, with what is happening in the Middle East, West Africa, the Caspian Basin, China, and South America, who ever is in charge will have his work cut out for him. The new great game has begun.
To complicate matters, it is very likely the the Govt. of Mexico may implode. Their only sources of revenue are Tourism, Oil exports, and dope. The oil is in decline, and if our economy goes south, the tourism is gone also. That will leave dope and border issues.

]]> by: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2429 Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:16:48 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2429 The Democrats will remain useless and ineffectual until they find either the balls or the brains to start speaking out against the war in Iraq. It's obvious and it's known by a majority of Americans that the whole adventure was a huge mistake brought on by deception and outright stupidity. There is no possibility of winning in Iraq except to escape by changing the definition of victory or success. As it stands now, victory in Iraq is predicated on America's will and dominance, which is contrary to the Iraqi's freedom and soveriegnty. Iraq was lost before we began, and it will consume any politician who doesn't have the sense to distance themselves from the beast. Murtha offered the Democrats a get free of Iraq card,but too many of them were too stupid or insecure to take advantage. Only a fool will try to support a mistake. Beware of the harlot, all saucy and pert, for she seeks to devour you. The Democrats will remain useless and ineffectual until they find either the balls or the brains to start speaking out against the war in Iraq. It’s obvious and it’s known by a majority of Americans that the whole adventure was a huge mistake brought on by deception and outright stupidity. There is no possibility of winning in Iraq except to escape by changing the definition of victory or success. As it stands now, victory in Iraq is predicated on America’s will and dominance, which is contrary to the Iraqi’s freedom and soveriegnty. Iraq was lost before we began, and it will consume any politician who doesn’t have the sense to distance themselves from the beast. Murtha offered the Democrats a get free of Iraq card,but too many of them were too stupid or insecure to take advantage. Only a fool will try to support a mistake.

Beware of the harlot, all saucy and pert, for she seeks to devour you.

]]> by: jonst http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2427 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:49:54 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2427 Oh how I wish more blogs made a big deal about the Dem 'leaders' selecting Kaine over Murtha Oh how I wish more blogs made a big deal about the Dem ‘leaders’ selecting Kaine over Murtha

]]> by: Gary Farber http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2426 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:43:20 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2426 Good and spot-on post. Which leaves me nothing to add. Darn. Good and spot-on post. Which leaves me nothing to add. Darn.

]]> by: Donna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2425 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:14:41 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/01/28/parallax-view/#comment-2425 Sorry, please spell it hierarchfiend..... Sorry, please spell it hierarchfiend…..

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