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		<title>By: sb</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/02/17/marginalizing-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-3863</link>
		<dc:creator>sb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised more hasn&#039;t been said about the shooting.
It has been my understanding that pro gun people insist
guns don&#039;t shoot people, people do, and guns are fine in a responsible person&#039;s hands. How did this happen if guns are
safe in the &quot;right&quot; hands.  Why is it that getting peppered is not so unusual if guns are safe in around responsible adults?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised more hasn&#8217;t been said about the shooting.<br />
It has been my understanding that pro gun people insist<br />
guns don&#8217;t shoot people, people do, and guns are fine in a responsible person&#8217;s hands. How did this happen if guns are<br />
safe in the &#8220;right&#8221; hands.  Why is it that getting peppered is not so unusual if guns are safe in around responsible adults?</p>
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		<title>By: The Mahablog &#187; Patriotism v. Hate Speech</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mahablog &#187; Patriotism v. Hate Speech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s taken many years of propaganda about the &#8220;liberal media&#8221; to get us to this point but &#8230; we&#8217;ve arrived, folks. We&#8217;re here. Wake up. (See also &#8221; &#8216;Marginalizing&#8217; the Press.&#8221;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s taken many years of propaganda about the &#8220;liberal media&#8221; to get us to this point but &#8230; we&#8217;ve arrived, folks. We&#8217;re here. Wake up. (See also &#8221; &#8216;Marginalizing&#8217; the Press.&#8221;) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Palcewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Palcewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That hospital appearance by Whittington was still another in an endless string of bizarre Republican photo-ops and stage shows. It was all about Il Duce Dick, not his victim, the guy who stood there with purple bruises and pellet holes on his face, coughing frequently.  The whole sorry spectacle was designed to gloss over the VP’s ineptitude and subsequent coverup. And yet the whole absurd performance was covered straight by the conventional media, as if there wasn&#039;t anything at all phoney about it.  The Texas aristocracy with connections to big oil and Haliburton, meanwhile, nodded approvingly and said nothing further.  

The conventional media just went along, as usual, but progressive blogs got it exactly right and so did Jon Stewart, David Letterman, Jay Leno and other comedians. 

I suspect that the tremendous laughter and applause that came from these guys’ jokes was a sort of psychic outpouring of relief that at least SOMEONE out there in TV land is eager to tell the plain truth about what&#039;s going on around us.

The US government has gradually descended into moral bankruptcy and criminality. Fascist swine like Karl Rove and the rest of his Republican black shirts lie by necessity, it&#039;s the only way they can herd their sheep. They have blood on their hands by lying their way into a pre-emptive, unnecessary war. They&#039;ve got a leader who has achieved cult status.  He’s literally adored, revered.  To their subservient and ignorant followers, neither Bush nor Cheney can do any wrong.

The rest of the world looks on, and wonders. How on God&#039;s earth can this sort of thing happen again in an allegedly civilized country? Didn&#039;t anyone learn anything in the 40s?   And again in the 70s?

Apparently not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That hospital appearance by Whittington was still another in an endless string of bizarre Republican photo-ops and stage shows. It was all about Il Duce Dick, not his victim, the guy who stood there with purple bruises and pellet holes on his face, coughing frequently.  The whole sorry spectacle was designed to gloss over the VP’s ineptitude and subsequent coverup. And yet the whole absurd performance was covered straight by the conventional media, as if there wasn&#8217;t anything at all phoney about it.  The Texas aristocracy with connections to big oil and Haliburton, meanwhile, nodded approvingly and said nothing further.  </p>
<p>The conventional media just went along, as usual, but progressive blogs got it exactly right and so did Jon Stewart, David Letterman, Jay Leno and other comedians. </p>
<p>I suspect that the tremendous laughter and applause that came from these guys’ jokes was a sort of psychic outpouring of relief that at least SOMEONE out there in TV land is eager to tell the plain truth about what&#8217;s going on around us.</p>
<p>The US government has gradually descended into moral bankruptcy and criminality. Fascist swine like Karl Rove and the rest of his Republican black shirts lie by necessity, it&#8217;s the only way they can herd their sheep. They have blood on their hands by lying their way into a pre-emptive, unnecessary war. They&#8217;ve got a leader who has achieved cult status.  He’s literally adored, revered.  To their subservient and ignorant followers, neither Bush nor Cheney can do any wrong.</p>
<p>The rest of the world looks on, and wonders. How on God&#8217;s earth can this sort of thing happen again in an allegedly civilized country? Didn&#8217;t anyone learn anything in the 40s?   And again in the 70s?</p>
<p>Apparently not.</p>
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		<title>By: samiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>samiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, &quot;your quote,&quot; not &quot;you&#039;re quote.&quot;  Excuse the error!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, &#8220;your quote,&#8221; not &#8220;you&#8217;re quote.&#8221;  Excuse the error!</p>
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		<title>By: samiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>samiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erinyes,
Thanks for all the depressing info. Actually I have been aware of much of this, but you&#039;re much better informed than I am. I remember warning and ranting to my conservative parents about Bush&#039;s &quot;end of the world&quot; mentality during the last election, but I was simply confused by how we got from &quot;Let&#039;s drill in Alaska and everything will be fine&quot; to the panicked &quot;we&#039;re addicted to oil.&quot;  You&#039;ve helped me gain a wider view of the world&#039;s machinations.  Also, you&#039;re quote from him to Bob Woodward reminds me that he&#039;s a nut but, more dangerously, he&#039;s a nut in charge during a time of a major shift in world affairs that would take a genius to steer us in correctly.
(How do you think we would have fared under Gore?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erinyes,<br />
Thanks for all the depressing info. Actually I have been aware of much of this, but you&#8217;re much better informed than I am. I remember warning and ranting to my conservative parents about Bush&#8217;s &#8220;end of the world&#8221; mentality during the last election, but I was simply confused by how we got from &#8220;Let&#8217;s drill in Alaska and everything will be fine&#8221; to the panicked &#8220;we&#8217;re addicted to oil.&#8221;  You&#8217;ve helped me gain a wider view of the world&#8217;s machinations.  Also, you&#8217;re quote from him to Bob Woodward reminds me that he&#8217;s a nut but, more dangerously, he&#8217;s a nut in charge during a time of a major shift in world affairs that would take a genius to steer us in correctly.<br />
(How do you think we would have fared under Gore?)</p>
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was interupted befor I finished. I&#039;m not sure if China has the catbird seat by design , or simply &quot;serendipity&quot;, but the Chinese are in a superburb position. They have a booming economy, cheap labor, unlimited markets, and due to their huge population and fearless outlook, no one dare mess with them. The Chinese literally have us by the balls. I was stuned to see an article in the paper this week about the U.S. telling China to back off. This is like telling the banker holding your mortgage to piss off when you are three months behind in payments!
 While our leaders continue to bully and intimidate, China has been busy cultivating relationships throughout the world, particularly in South America, The Caribbean, and Africa.IMHO, China is giving us enough rope to hang ourselves, or at least enough so that we won&#039;t be able to counter their power when the time comes for them to move. 
 It is the peak of Irony that the Chinese will very likely be the top dogs in the world as a result of the  drunken sailor attitude of our leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interupted befor I finished. I&#8217;m not sure if China has the catbird seat by design , or simply &#8220;serendipity&#8221;, but the Chinese are in a superburb position. They have a booming economy, cheap labor, unlimited markets, and due to their huge population and fearless outlook, no one dare mess with them. The Chinese literally have us by the balls. I was stuned to see an article in the paper this week about the U.S. telling China to back off. This is like telling the banker holding your mortgage to piss off when you are three months behind in payments!<br />
 While our leaders continue to bully and intimidate, China has been busy cultivating relationships throughout the world, particularly in South America, The Caribbean, and Africa.IMHO, China is giving us enough rope to hang ourselves, or at least enough so that we won&#8217;t be able to counter their power when the time comes for them to move.<br />
 It is the peak of Irony that the Chinese will very likely be the top dogs in the world as a result of the  drunken sailor attitude of our leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I&#039;m wondering-why is he saying we&#039;re addicted to oil&quot;
On a typical Florida day, all major cities from Miami to Orlando, Tampa, and Jacksonville have major traffic jams. The math is easy on this one...
Figure 25 gallons of gas per car x how many miles of jammed up traffic.Divide this by the number of people per vehicle. Now factor in the amount of natural gas and crude oil beneath the lands of Iran and Venezuela. Multiply that factor by the angry retoric directed at the leaders of those countries by Bushco.
The common denominator is :addicts in need of a fix will do whatever is necessary to stop the pain. The Iran oil Bourse is set to open around March 20. From what I understand, Iran and Venezuela will no longer use the U.S. dollar, but will shift to E.U. dollars.INMHO, the bushit about the oil addiction will be the excuse that Iran and Venezuela are going to try and starve us deliberately, which Bushco will spin into something of an act of war.
This could get interesting, especially if China , India, Russia, and the E.U. stand up and say &quot;ENOUGH!!&quot;, which just might happen.
I believe Bush thinks we&#039;re in the &quot;end times&quot;. I think it was in an interview with Bob Woodward where Bush was asked about the future and replied &quot; It won&#039;t matter,we&#039;ll all be dead anyway&quot;.
 As to how to understand the thinking process of these guys, think crocodile. Crocodiles view the world as either prey , predator, or inanimate. You&#039;re either with him, against him, or you don&#039;t count.
Almost every OPEC country is in some kind of trouble, either civil unrest, or in war or threatened with war.
 A fundy guy I know was telling me that Israel is about to have a huge new oil strike which will alter the face of the ME. I have read that there is intense drilling in Israel by a Texas oil man who is consumed by the  Book of Revelations /end times cult Another Texas fundy is trying to breed a &quot;Red Heiffer&quot; for sacrifice to bring about the second comming.
We live in interesting times, one where &quot;new realities&quot; are created daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I&#8217;m wondering-why is he saying we&#8217;re addicted to oil&#8221;<br />
On a typical Florida day, all major cities from Miami to Orlando, Tampa, and Jacksonville have major traffic jams. The math is easy on this one&#8230;<br />
Figure 25 gallons of gas per car x how many miles of jammed up traffic.Divide this by the number of people per vehicle. Now factor in the amount of natural gas and crude oil beneath the lands of Iran and Venezuela. Multiply that factor by the angry retoric directed at the leaders of those countries by Bushco.<br />
The common denominator is :addicts in need of a fix will do whatever is necessary to stop the pain. The Iran oil Bourse is set to open around March 20. From what I understand, Iran and Venezuela will no longer use the U.S. dollar, but will shift to E.U. dollars.INMHO, the bushit about the oil addiction will be the excuse that Iran and Venezuela are going to try and starve us deliberately, which Bushco will spin into something of an act of war.<br />
This could get interesting, especially if China , India, Russia, and the E.U. stand up and say &#8220;ENOUGH!!&#8221;, which just might happen.<br />
I believe Bush thinks we&#8217;re in the &#8220;end times&#8221;. I think it was in an interview with Bob Woodward where Bush was asked about the future and replied &#8221; It won&#8217;t matter,we&#8217;ll all be dead anyway&#8221;.<br />
 As to how to understand the thinking process of these guys, think crocodile. Crocodiles view the world as either prey , predator, or inanimate. You&#8217;re either with him, against him, or you don&#8217;t count.<br />
Almost every OPEC country is in some kind of trouble, either civil unrest, or in war or threatened with war.<br />
 A fundy guy I know was telling me that Israel is about to have a huge new oil strike which will alter the face of the ME. I have read that there is intense drilling in Israel by a Texas oil man who is consumed by the  Book of Revelations /end times cult Another Texas fundy is trying to breed a &#8220;Red Heiffer&#8221; for sacrifice to bring about the second comming.<br />
We live in interesting times, one where &#8220;new realities&#8221; are created daily.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is Cheney the Vice President of Corpus Christi, or the VP of the entire USA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is Cheney the Vice President of Corpus Christi, or the VP of the entire USA?</p>
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		<title>By: samiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>samiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get you, erinyes. I&#039;ve often suspected him of this mindset, too. Even if I thought I was misinterpreting his beliefs, his actions surely are setting us on a course toward Armaggedon. 

But I&#039;m still wondering - why is he saying we&#039;re addicted to oil? Does he mean we should stop driving SUV&#039;s? Use wood chips and saw grass like Britwit and I heard on Faux news today? Not drill in Alaska? Did it suddenly occur to him that being out of oil means Armaggedon for this way of life we hold dear and he&#039;s feeling a little panicked?  What&#039;s up? Why would he care if we&#039;re heading there? 

Maybe there is no way to understand the guy. Maybe he&#039;s more like the reality-challenged people I&#039;ve seen in the libraries than I thought. He&#039;s in over his head, that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get you, erinyes. I&#8217;ve often suspected him of this mindset, too. Even if I thought I was misinterpreting his beliefs, his actions surely are setting us on a course toward Armaggedon. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m still wondering &#8211; why is he saying we&#8217;re addicted to oil? Does he mean we should stop driving SUV&#8217;s? Use wood chips and saw grass like Britwit and I heard on Faux news today? Not drill in Alaska? Did it suddenly occur to him that being out of oil means Armaggedon for this way of life we hold dear and he&#8217;s feeling a little panicked?  What&#8217;s up? Why would he care if we&#8217;re heading there? </p>
<p>Maybe there is no way to understand the guy. Maybe he&#8217;s more like the reality-challenged people I&#8217;ve seen in the libraries than I thought. He&#8217;s in over his head, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 01:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush&#039;s addicted to oil bit is about offshore oil in Florida and Kali-fornia. It is also about ANWAR and the need to attack Iran to keep our economy fluid.
Bush did not convert. He is an &quot;end of times&quot; believer.The mind set is to get all you can before the tribulation, after that, it&#039;s in &quot;God&#039;s hands&quot;.The really cool part is that one can be the world&#039;s biggest asshole, but if Jesus is your personal savior, you get the &quot;E&quot; ticket ride, everyone else gets Beelzebub.
This is how it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush&#8217;s addicted to oil bit is about offshore oil in Florida and Kali-fornia. It is also about ANWAR and the need to attack Iran to keep our economy fluid.<br />
Bush did not convert. He is an &#8220;end of times&#8221; believer.The mind set is to get all you can before the tribulation, after that, it&#8217;s in &#8220;God&#8217;s hands&#8221;.The really cool part is that one can be the world&#8217;s biggest asshole, but if Jesus is your personal savior, you get the &#8220;E&#8221; ticket ride, everyone else gets Beelzebub.<br />
This is how it works.</p>
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