Comments on: The Daughter Effect http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:04:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: The Mahablog » Some Things Can’t Be Legislated Away http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-321936 Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:45:32 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-321936 [...] However, outlawing abortion can have the effect of driving it so far underground that many people (unless they work in hospital emergency rooms) can pretend it isn’t happening, even though it is. And pretending is better than reality for righties. Of course, there is also the daughter effect — having a daughter of reproductive age tends to have a liberalizing effect on a man’s views on reproductive right, generally. (See also “Oh, the Humanity” — the anti-abortion rights position is based on an assumption that women aren’t real people — especially women who get abortions.) [...] […] However, outlawing abortion can have the effect of driving it so far underground that many people (unless they work in hospital emergency rooms) can pretend it isn’t happening, even though it is. And pretending is better than reality for righties. Of course, there is also the daughter effect — having a daughter of reproductive age tends to have a liberalizing effect on a man’s views on reproductive right, generally. (See also “Oh, the Humanity” — the anti-abortion rights position is based on an assumption that women aren’t real people — especially women who get abortions.) […]

]]> by: MIKE REEDY http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-15859 Mon, 29 May 2006 18:01:27 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-15859 I FOUND SOME OF YOUR ARTICLES INTERESTING YOU HAVE SOME STRICT VERIWPOINTS ON ABORTION BUT IT REALLY IS UP TOO THE WOMAN I FOUND SOME OF YOUR ARTICLES INTERESTING YOU HAVE SOME STRICT VERIWPOINTS ON ABORTION BUT IT REALLY IS UP TOO THE WOMAN

]]> by: Donna in WI http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4759 Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:49:06 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4759 I also got scholarships to go to college but my dad thought it was a great idea...after all I'd be able to find a great husband there. LOL I also got scholarships to go to college but my dad thought it was a great idea…after all I’d be able to find a great husband there. LOL

]]> by: Donna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4757 Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:19:21 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4757 To Donna in WI, post #7 from Donna in Il, post #5......hello to you, too. When I read your first two posts, I reacted to the name and also resonated about 'neanderthal dad'. I grew up in abject poverty, went to work at age 14 just to be able to get high school textbooks and necessary things like trips to the dentist..... so I was thrilled to learn that I had won a scholarship that meant I could go on to college. My dad's reaction, "What a stupid idea for a girl." Neanderthal dads, I think, are scared little fellows inside.....like bullies, they pick on people physically smaller than them.... To Donna in WI, post #7 from Donna in Il, post #5……hello to you, too.

When I read your first two posts, I reacted to the name and also resonated about ‘neanderthal dad’. I grew up in abject poverty, went to work at age 14 just to be able to get high school textbooks and necessary things like trips to the dentist….. so I was thrilled to learn that I had won a scholarship that meant I could go on to college. My dad’s reaction, “What a stupid idea for a girl.”

Neanderthal dads, I think, are scared little fellows inside…..like bullies, they pick on people physically smaller than them….

]]> by: Steve Nichols http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4746 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:46:39 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4746 I've been pro-choice since whenever I became aware it was an issue, but I still don't automatically tie the right to an abortion as being a women's rights issue (It is, but it's not something that jumps out at me). I'm a white man who grew up when the 3 Johns were culturally ascendant--John Kennedy, John Wayne, and John Glenn. The notion that women, gays or blacks had legitimate grievances just wasn't part of the pop culture milieu when I was a kid, and it was only after the Army and during and after college that I began to contemplate the issues and difficulties facing those groups. And as I'm more introspective and philosophically inclined than most men, I'm not surprised that the rest of the fraternity has trouble wrapping their big heads around this and similar issues. As an aside, I've watched with interest as my mother became more interested in feminism and women's issues as she grew older. I'm sure that the intellectual growth of my two sisters contributed to my mom's becoming interested in women's issues. It's worth noting that mom raised me and four younger siblings on my dad's VA and Social Security benefits when he died age 38. I’ve been pro-choice since whenever I became aware it was an issue, but I still don’t automatically tie the right to an abortion as being a women’s rights issue (It is, but it’s not something that jumps out at me).

I’m a white man who grew up when the 3 Johns were culturally ascendant–John Kennedy, John Wayne, and John Glenn. The notion that women, gays or blacks had legitimate grievances just wasn’t part of the pop culture milieu when I was a kid, and it was only after the Army and during and after college that I began to contemplate the issues and difficulties facing those groups.

And as I’m more introspective and philosophically inclined than most men, I’m not surprised that the rest of the fraternity has trouble wrapping their big heads around this and similar issues.

As an aside, I’ve watched with interest as my mother became more interested in feminism and women’s issues as she grew older. I’m sure that the intellectual growth of my two sisters contributed to my mom’s becoming interested in women’s issues. It’s worth noting that mom raised me and four younger siblings on my dad’s VA and Social Security benefits when he died age 38.

]]> by: merciless http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4743 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:07:58 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4743 One of the Donnas has a good point about fathers wanting to appear perfect and so encouraging abortion. I really think that the country club, chamber of commerce republicans are shaking in their shoes over what happened in South Dakota, even though they say they are pro-coathanger. Those republicans got lazy and greedy, and wanted all their tax breaks, and of course Roe will never really get overturned. Ha. Now we all get to suffer. One of the Donnas has a good point about fathers wanting to appear perfect and so encouraging abortion. I really think that the country club, chamber of commerce republicans are shaking in their shoes over what happened in South Dakota, even though they say they are pro-coathanger.

Those republicans got lazy and greedy, and wanted all their tax breaks, and of course Roe will never really get overturned. Ha. Now we all get to suffer.

]]> by: Donna in WI http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4742 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:05:45 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4742 I saw that too a few weeks back, Donna. Nice to meet you! LOL I'll adjust my name so people can tell us apart. (I wrote the first two Donna posts) I saw that too a few weeks back, Donna. Nice to meet you! LOL
I’ll adjust my name so people can tell us apart. (I wrote the first two Donna posts)

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4739 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:28:20 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4739 Two postings -- The hampsters who run the whatzit that makes the web site go probably fell off the wheel. Don't worry about it.:-) Two postings — The hampsters who run the whatzit that makes the web site go probably fell off the wheel. Don’t worry about it.:-)

]]> by: Donna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4738 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:25:02 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4738 Wow, Maha....I think you have two Donna's posting here.....I noticed this happened one time some weeks ago.....please advise. Wow, Maha….I think you have two Donna’s posting here…..I noticed this happened one time some weeks ago…..please advise.

]]> by: Donna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4736 Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:23:18 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/10/the-daughter-effect/#comment-4736 I hate to rain on your parade, because I really would like to think that daughters have that kind of influence on these close minded louts, maha, but my experience says different when your father is a real neanderthal! LOL I am one of 4 daughters and my father is remarried and now has 4 stepdaughters too. My stepmother says there was one time she wanted to bash him over the head, her youngest was going to university for a degree in English and he said he couldn't see her being a teacher so she should change majors. In my fathers mind there are few jobs for women, wife and mother, teacher, nurse, and secretary. My stepsister didn't listen to him and now she is an editor in NYC. I hate to rain on your parade, because I really would like to think that daughters have that kind of influence on these close minded louts, maha, but my experience says different when your father is a real neanderthal! LOL

I am one of 4 daughters and my father is remarried and now has 4 stepdaughters too. My stepmother says there was one time she wanted to bash him over the head, her youngest was going to university for a degree in English and he said he couldn’t see her being a teacher so she should change majors. In my fathers mind there are few jobs for women, wife and mother, teacher, nurse, and secretary. My stepsister didn’t listen to him and now she is an editor in NYC.

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