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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: reidmc</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5420</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>fear rules the foreign policy of Bush and Cheney.  I think they both realized in October 2001 that their administration was known for two things: making the rich richer and being in charge on 9/11.  Anything else in the former column was going to bring down the whole house of cards and ruin both of their professional reputations.   They were scared to death. . .not that terrorists would strike America again, but that terrorists would strike again and they would be blamed for it.  

So began their mindless response.  And they've managed to ruin their &quot;professional&quot; reputations in ways they don't even know.

And they are still afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>fear rules the foreign policy of Bush and Cheney.  I think they both realized in October 2001 that their administration was known for two things: making the rich richer and being in charge on 9/11.  Anything else in the former column was going to bring down the whole house of cards and ruin both of their professional reputations.   They were scared to death. . .not that terrorists would strike America again, but that terrorists would strike again and they would be blamed for it.  </p>
	<p>So began their mindless response.  And they&#8217;ve managed to ruin their &#8220;professional&#8221; reputations in ways they don&#8217;t even know.</p>
	<p>And they are still afraid.
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		<title>by: alyosha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5392</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Having been exposed to conservatives far more than I'd like to in the last twenty or so years, I've long personally observed the points in this post + comments to be oh so true. I'm glad you linked the Agre article - I've included this in many coments to very appreciative readers. Many more need to see this.

I second comment 5 - the notion of sadism - which is one of the things that fuels this pathology and makes it hard to eradicate. Bullies must be confronted. It can be confounding to people who are open minded that conservatives don't play by the same rules - it took me years to grasp this and to come up with effective countermeasures. When this happens en masse, that's when the tide will finally turn on conservativism, when the culture as a whole refuses to be bullied any more.

In talking with conservatives, I don't know how you get them to see and admit to the root of their worldview - fear - but this is where any discussion must go to be fruitful, otherwise you're just dealing with surface issues that come and go like the clouds in the sky. This is especially hard because fear closes their minds to new data, and to introspection and to the questioning of their core assumptions. In many ways these people are so unconscious, thuggish, and deserving of the epithet &quot;troglodyte&quot;. They refuse to face their fears, and instead project them outward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Having been exposed to conservatives far more than I&#8217;d like to in the last twenty or so years, I&#8217;ve long personally observed the points in this post + comments to be oh so true. I&#8217;m glad you linked the Agre article - I&#8217;ve included this in many coments to very appreciative readers. Many more need to see this.</p>
	<p>I second comment 5 - the notion of sadism - which is one of the things that fuels this pathology and makes it hard to eradicate. Bullies must be confronted. It can be confounding to people who are open minded that conservatives don&#8217;t play by the same rules - it took me years to grasp this and to come up with effective countermeasures. When this happens en masse, that&#8217;s when the tide will finally turn on conservativism, when the culture as a whole refuses to be bullied any more.</p>
	<p>In talking with conservatives, I don&#8217;t know how you get them to see and admit to the root of their worldview - fear - but this is where any discussion must go to be fruitful, otherwise you&#8217;re just dealing with surface issues that come and go like the clouds in the sky. This is especially hard because fear closes their minds to new data, and to introspection and to the questioning of their core assumptions. In many ways these people are so unconscious, thuggish, and deserving of the epithet &#8220;troglodyte&#8221;. They refuse to face their fears, and instead project them outward.
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		<title>by: Bruce A</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5378</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For all their tough talk and flag waving, Republicans are turning out to be Yellow Cowards. The enlistment rates keep dropping so low they are no longer reported. To put it simply, they talk a good fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For all their tough talk and flag waving, Republicans are turning out to be Yellow Cowards. The enlistment rates keep dropping so low they are no longer reported. To put it simply, they talk a good fight.
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		<title>by: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5372</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Isn't calling it the war on &lt;i&gt;terrror&lt;/i&gt; a dead giveaway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Isn&#8217;t calling it the war on <i>terrror</i> a dead giveaway?
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		<title>by: coturnix</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5368</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Importantly, many aspects of behavior (that subsequently lead to conservatism in adulthood), are the result of the childrearing technique/philosophy.  Thus, conservatives tend to raise conservatives and liberals raise liberals - NOT (or not as much) thought direct teaching, or even by modelling, but by building an environment in which fear and hierarchy are the norm (or what Lakoff would call &quot;strictfathering&quot;) or in which empathy, personal responsibility and creativity are the norm (&quot;nurturant parenting&quot;).

Of course, fear breeds sadism, and conservative psychology expresses itself in totalitarian politics.  That is why we should keep calling it conservatism and turn that word into a bad word (jusy like &quot;liberal&quot; is a dirty word right now) - as it is a word describing a psychopathology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Importantly, many aspects of behavior (that subsequently lead to conservatism in adulthood), are the result of the childrearing technique/philosophy.  Thus, conservatives tend to raise conservatives and liberals raise liberals - NOT (or not as much) thought direct teaching, or even by modelling, but by building an environment in which fear and hierarchy are the norm (or what Lakoff would call &#8220;strictfathering&#8221;) or in which empathy, personal responsibility and creativity are the norm (&#8221;nurturant parenting&#8221;).</p>
	<p>Of course, fear breeds sadism, and conservative psychology expresses itself in totalitarian politics.  That is why we should keep calling it conservatism and turn that word into a bad word (jusy like &#8220;liberal&#8221; is a dirty word right now) - as it is a word describing a psychopathology.
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		<title>by: Swami</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5365</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, I agree support for Bush is rooted in fear but it's fertilized with ignorance and lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, I agree support for Bush is rooted in fear but it&#8217;s fertilized with ignorance and lies.
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		<title>by: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5362</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oops, I must be a liberal....my heart goes out to whiny insecure kids......
I have been known to crouch down and whisper a secret to a whiny kid,  &quot;Guess what...this is sort of a secret, but I will tell you anyway......adults pretend that they are perfect, but really adults are too chicken to admit their faults..  Kids have to sort of get along with those big adults, cause they feed you and take care of you.  But, just between you and me, this is our secret......sometimes when big people act like you aren't ok, it's because they don't feel ok about themselves.  Now  you know this secret....so sometimes when they act like you're not ok....you think about this.....yeah,  you have to obey the big person, but you never have to believe them about whether you are ok.  As a little kid, you naturally know how to love them even if they have faults......even if  they forget how to love you that way.&quot;

One of my favorite lines of poetry [I do not know the full poem or the source] goes like this:
   'Child, I would cherish you, not for myself but for your own...
I would not smother you with anxious care, but be nearby when life becomes too quiveringly real, I would that life should hurt you, and you be unafraid of pain....'

I think little kids, if given even a tiny iota of truth [adults aren't perfect, life involves pain, etc]to work with as they develop their psyches, can be magnificently resilient.   Kids who suffer from authoritarian parents' promotion of perfection [perfection often measured against 'others'] grow up substituting image for truth.   Sounds like the Bushies....image trumping truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oops, I must be a liberal&#8230;.my heart goes out to whiny insecure kids&#8230;&#8230;<br />
I have been known to crouch down and whisper a secret to a whiny kid,  &#8220;Guess what&#8230;this is sort of a secret, but I will tell you anyway&#8230;&#8230;adults pretend that they are perfect, but really adults are too chicken to admit their faults..  Kids have to sort of get along with those big adults, cause they feed you and take care of you.  But, just between you and me, this is our secret&#8230;&#8230;sometimes when big people act like you aren&#8217;t ok, it&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t feel ok about themselves.  Now  you know this secret&#8230;.so sometimes when they act like you&#8217;re not ok&#8230;.you think about this&#8230;..yeah,  you have to obey the big person, but you never have to believe them about whether you are ok.  As a little kid, you naturally know how to love them even if they have faults&#8230;&#8230;even if  they forget how to love you that way.&#8221;</p>
	<p>One of my favorite lines of poetry [I do not know the full poem or the source] goes like this:<br />
   &#8216;Child, I would cherish you, not for myself but for your own&#8230;<br />
I would not smother you with anxious care, but be nearby when life becomes too quiveringly real, I would that life should hurt you, and you be unafraid of pain&#8230;.&#8217;</p>
	<p>I think little kids, if given even a tiny iota of truth [adults aren&#8217;t perfect, life involves pain, etc]to work with as they develop their psyches, can be magnificently resilient.   Kids who suffer from authoritarian parents&#8217; promotion of perfection [perfection often measured against &#8216;others&#8217;] grow up substituting image for truth.   Sounds like the Bushies&#8230;.image trumping truth.
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		<title>by: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5361</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for the FAB link to Agre...great essay - and answers several questions about what's wrong with Conservatism (some issues can pinpointed in a head-slapping obvious way - as in &quot;Of Course I see that now.&quot;- others are more subtle).

But it also answers why splitting into the Independents or Libertarians (who I think are mostly conservatives really) or some other third party  only exacerbates the ability of conservatives to win.

Great Job on this one.

:-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for the FAB link to Agre&#8230;great essay - and answers several questions about what&#8217;s wrong with Conservatism (some issues can pinpointed in a head-slapping obvious way - as in &#8220;Of Course I see that now.&#8221;- others are more subtle).</p>
	<p>But it also answers why splitting into the Independents or Libertarians (who I think are mostly conservatives really) or some other third party  only exacerbates the ability of conservatives to win.</p>
	<p>Great Job on this one.</p>
	<p>:-D
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		<title>by: Frank Wilhoit</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5360</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>All praise for looking in the right direction.  It is not easy; but in fact it is harder than you think.

First, there is one easy bit.  Stop calling it conservatism, which it is not, and call it by its right name., which is totalitarianism.

Second, while it may to some extent be a pathology, it is also to some extent a choice.

Third--and this is where it gets very hard indeed--, you have entirely overlooked the role of sadism, which actually dwarfs all of the other factors.  This must be faced, even though its implications are huge and extremely unpleasant.

I understand completely that you are not trying to make excuses, but that is the inevitable flip side of pathologizing.  Do not fall into the trap.  Excuses cannot and must not be made.  If there is a way out, it will require much clearer sight and much greater ruthlessness than any of us can muster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>All praise for looking in the right direction.  It is not easy; but in fact it is harder than you think.</p>
	<p>First, there is one easy bit.  Stop calling it conservatism, which it is not, and call it by its right name., which is totalitarianism.</p>
	<p>Second, while it may to some extent be a pathology, it is also to some extent a choice.</p>
	<p>Third&#8211;and this is where it gets very hard indeed&#8211;, you have entirely overlooked the role of sadism, which actually dwarfs all of the other factors.  This must be faced, even though its implications are huge and extremely unpleasant.</p>
	<p>I understand completely that you are not trying to make excuses, but that is the inevitable flip side of pathologizing.  Do not fall into the trap.  Excuses cannot and must not be made.  If there is a way out, it will require much clearer sight and much greater ruthlessness than any of us can muster.
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		<title>by: capainter45</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/20/this-explains-a-lot/#comment-5359</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I live in California and am surrounded by really strange and I feel often brave weirdos.  I agree most strongly with this idea and have for years seen Democrats/liberals and the GOP/conservatives (generally) in this light.  My lot to be a weirdo, but I love the payoff of living on the edge.  Thanks Maha.  

To Terry,  It’s okay to minimize risk and save money and you can even stay out of the tin hat parade and still belong to the Democratic Party.  Just vote please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I live in California and am surrounded by really strange and I feel often brave weirdos.  I agree most strongly with this idea and have for years seen Democrats/liberals and the GOP/conservatives (generally) in this light.  My lot to be a weirdo, but I love the payoff of living on the edge.  Thanks Maha.  </p>
	<p>To Terry,  It’s okay to minimize risk and save money and you can even stay out of the tin hat parade and still belong to the Democratic Party.  Just vote please.
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