Comments on: More Than a Feeling http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/ Making the World Safe for Liberalism Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:42:29 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Mahablog » The Amazing Disappearing War http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-21704 The Mahablog » The Amazing Disappearing War Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:30:41 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-21704 [...] I think the more essential reason for the Bush Administration’s failure is that the Bushies were never clear in their own minds what the mission — and the motivation for invading Iraq — really was. We know that eliminating Saddam Hussein’s fictitious WMDs was not the real reason for the invasion. Converting Iraq to a pro-western democracy was the neocons’ reason, but if the Bushies had been serious about nation building in Iraq would have planned some nation-building activities for the “postwar” period. Instead, they seem to have thought that deposing Saddam Hussein would all by itself cause democracy to root and bloom like dandelions in June. [...] [...] I think the more essential reason for the Bush Administration’s failure is that the Bushies were never clear in their own minds what the mission — and the motivation for invading Iraq — really was. We know that eliminating Saddam Hussein’s fictitious WMDs was not the real reason for the invasion. Converting Iraq to a pro-western democracy was the neocons’ reason, but if the Bushies had been serious about nation building in Iraq would have planned some nation-building activities for the “postwar” period. Instead, they seem to have thought that deposing Saddam Hussein would all by itself cause democracy to root and bloom like dandelions in June. [...]

]]> By: Gideon S. http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5667 Gideon S. Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:03:28 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5667 Thanks for the post, and the link to Peking Duck; I'm still stunned that this story hasn't garnered more attention from the news media and (especially) from Democrats in Congress. Thanks for the post, and the link to Peking Duck; I’m still stunned that this story hasn’t garnered more attention from the news media and (especially) from Democrats in Congress.

]]> By: Britwit http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5598 Britwit Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:53:13 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5598 When I say it is off topic for the subject blog--it is a f---ing subject issue. The redneck state of red AL is going to try to do a ban on abortion! When I say it is off topic for the subject blog–it is a f—ing subject issue.

The redneck state of red AL is going to try to do a ban on abortion!

]]> By: Donna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5593 Donna Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:57:19 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5593 Didn't the Bush Administration, in December of '02, improperly take possession of Iraq's 11,000 pages of documents [re: WMD] submitted to the UN Security Council, and then only forward around 8,000 pages on to the rest of the Council? I am just wondering if this action was also a way to undercut informational facts about Iraqi cooperation at a time when the neocons were itching for war? Didn’t the Bush Administration, in December of ‘02, improperly take possession of Iraq’s 11,000 pages of documents [re: WMD] submitted to the UN Security Council, and then only forward around 8,000 pages on to the rest of the Council? I am just wondering if this action was also a way to undercut informational facts about Iraqi cooperation at a time when the neocons were itching for war?

]]> By: Britwit http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5592 Britwit Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:41:20 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5592 This is off topic - but wanted to post -- NBC news on B'ham, AL TV announced Sat., 3/25 that a bill was going to be presented to ban abortion in the state and that it would be similar to the SD bill that was signed by the Governor there. The B'ham Newspaper on Sun., 3/26/06 mentioned the two MEN who have proposed the bill. I will have to read the paper again to post the names of these two redneck red state men. This is off topic – but wanted to post –

NBC news on B’ham, AL TV announced Sat., 3/25 that a bill was going to be presented to ban abortion in the state and that it would be similar to the SD bill that was signed by the Governor there.

The B’ham Newspaper on Sun., 3/26/06 mentioned the two MEN
who have proposed the bill. I will have to read the paper again to post the names of these two redneck red state men.

]]> By: QandO http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5591 QandO Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:11:12 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5591 <strong>Times: Iraq war "was inevitable"</strong> At Mahablog, Barbara O'Brien tries to argue that "it was far from the truth to say that Iraqis “would not cooperate”" by pointing to Blix' testimony that Iraq has "on the whole cooperated rather well so far [in this field]". But "this field" ... Times: Iraq war “was inevitable”

At Mahablog, Barbara O’Brien tries to argue that “it was far from the truth to say that Iraqis “would not cooperate”” by pointing to Blix’ testimony that Iraq has “on the whole cooperated rather well so far [in this field]“. But “this field” …

]]> By: A Newer World » Blog Archive » Captain Ed Rewrites History http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5588 A Newer World » Blog Archive » Captain Ed Rewrites History Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:20:20 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5588 [...] (Hat tip: Maha)  [...] [...] (Hat tip: Maha)  [...]

]]> By: Donna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5587 Donna Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:14:47 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5587 Captain Ed's "stubborn determination not to see the point" reminds me of something I heard a Bush supporter say recently to his ten year old child: "See, it is dangerous to think about something yourself.....you must listen to what authority tells you." [This admonition was delivered after the ten year old had softly spoken his own thought about a issue..... I shuddered to think of what the developmental outcome would be for this young person.] The bubble inhabited by Bush must feel like a safe place for the kool-aid drinkers to also inhabit. All one needs to do 'in the bubble' is to fend off independent thought or pesky intruding facts. Captain Ed’s “stubborn determination not to see the point” reminds me of something I heard a Bush supporter say recently to his ten year old child: “See, it is dangerous to think about something yourself…..you must listen to what authority tells you.” [This admonition was delivered after the ten year old had softly spoken his own thought about a issue..... I shuddered to think of what the developmental outcome would be for this young person.]

The bubble inhabited by Bush must feel like a safe place for the kool-aid drinkers to also inhabit. All one needs to do ‘in the bubble’ is to fend off independent thought or pesky intruding facts.

]]> By: Ron Brynaert http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5585 Ron Brynaert Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:55:47 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5585 <a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1047422481425_142?s_name=&no_ads=" rel="nofollow">CTV News</a>, Mar. 11 2003 Suspicions were heightened because the second plane flew across the Saudi border into Iraq, rather than the usual route missions have flown from Kuwait, Amin said. U.S. officials said the jets threatened the U.S. planes, forcing them to abort their mission and return to base. A Pentagon official said the decision to end the mission was made "in the interest of safety." Iraqi officials presented a different version of events. It was the UN inspectors that ordered the two planes to leave Iraqi airspace, Amin told reporters at a hastily convened briefing at the Information Ministry. CTV News, Mar. 11 2003

Suspicions were heightened because the second plane flew across the Saudi border into Iraq, rather than the usual route missions have flown from Kuwait, Amin said.

U.S. officials said the jets threatened the U.S. planes, forcing them to abort their mission and return to base. A Pentagon official said the decision to end the mission was made “in the interest of safety.”

Iraqi officials presented a different version of events. It was the UN inspectors that ordered the two planes to leave Iraqi airspace, Amin told reporters at a hastily convened briefing at the Information Ministry.

]]> By: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2006/03/27/more-than-a-feeling/comment-page-1/#comment-5584 maha Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:47:45 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=550#comment-5584 Thanks, Ron. Iraq "raised a fuss," did they? Well, <i>nuke 'em</i> ... Thanks, Ron. Iraq “raised a fuss,” did they? Well, nuke ‘em …

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