Comments on: Historians Are Relieved http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/ Making the World Safe for Liberalism Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:12:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7522 maha Thu, 04 May 2006 20:54:38 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7522 As usual, the righties miss the point. Moussaoui was a bit player, a sideshow, a flake. His trial was a band-aid over the failure of the Bush Administration to bring anyone really responsible for 9/11 to justice. The real perps are either still free or can't be tried in a U.S. court because they were tortured. As usual, the righties miss the point. Moussaoui was a bit player, a sideshow, a flake. His trial was a band-aid over the failure of the Bush Administration to bring anyone really responsible for 9/11 to justice. The real perps are either still free or can’t be tried in a U.S. court because they were tortured.

]]> By: Sam http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7521 Sam Thu, 04 May 2006 20:47:10 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7521 "What we are now left to ponder is the question of whether the death penalty is now off the table for other jihadis who are captured in the US and tried in civil courts?" Sorry, <i>A Blog For All</i>. This, from your blog, seems a lame bit of reasoning to me. Moussaoui is not on a par with some of the other 9/11 perpetrators (whom we have in our custody and who have not yet been brought to trial...why, we wonder?) - in other words, the actual planners. (Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, believed to be a principal architect of the September 11 plot and Ramzi Binalshibh, roommate of Atta, imprisoned under similar conditions as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.) Instead, we're talking about some wanna be from whom Al Qaeda seems to be distancing themselves. Have you heard any ranting coming from them on this trial? Why have they been so quiet? Shouldn't he be a hero or something? http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/EB0FD024-CF57-4E65-9999-63E66A516BC2.htm And he's crazy like a fox? Glad you have a good understanding of the mind of this guy. I've found that getting inside the mind of a nut can make you crazy! “What we are now left to ponder is the question of whether the death penalty is now off the table for other jihadis who are captured in the US and tried in civil courts?”

Sorry, A Blog For All. This, from your blog, seems a lame bit of reasoning to me. Moussaoui is not on a par with some of the other 9/11 perpetrators (whom we have in our custody and who have not yet been brought to trial…why, we wonder?) - in other words, the actual planners. (Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, believed to be a principal architect of the September 11 plot and
Ramzi Binalshibh, roommate of Atta, imprisoned under similar conditions as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.)
Instead, we’re talking about some wanna be from whom Al Qaeda seems to be distancing themselves. Have you heard any ranting coming from them on this trial? Why have they been so quiet? Shouldn’t he be a hero or something?
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/EB0FD024-CF57-4E65-9999-63E66A516BC2.htm

And he’s crazy like a fox? Glad you have a good understanding of the mind of this guy. I’ve found that getting inside the mind of a nut can make you crazy!

]]> By: A Blog For All http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7504 A Blog For All Thu, 04 May 2006 18:53:31 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7504 <strong>Martyrdom</strong> For all the talk about Moussaoui wanting to be a martyr, he was doing everything possible to avoid that sentence. Crazy like a fox. And his strategy worked. Martyrdom

For all the talk about Moussaoui wanting to be a martyr, he was doing everything possible to avoid that sentence. Crazy like a fox. And his strategy worked.

]]> By: Britwit http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7500 Britwit Thu, 04 May 2006 18:14:29 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7500 OFF SUBJECT BUT NOT TARGET- CNN just showed Rummy in Atlanta speaking at the Center for Int'l Studies. There was a female protestor who disrupted him and she was taken out. The female CNN reporter said that Rumsfield kept his calm. HELLO! Why not, they know people hate him and they are prepared. That's why Rummy was calm. I would be too if I was surrounded by guards to protect me. ALSO, I would feel calm knowing the DICK the Dick brought me to the table in the beginning. Rummy brought Dick and Dick brought Rummy. PLUS - They are next-door neighbors! OFF SUBJECT BUT NOT TARGET-

CNN just showed Rummy in Atlanta speaking at the Center for Int’l Studies. There was a female protestor who disrupted him and she was taken out.

The female CNN reporter said that Rumsfield kept his calm.

HELLO! Why not, they know people hate him and they are prepared. That’s why Rummy was calm. I would be too if I was surrounded by guards to protect me.

ALSO, I would feel calm knowing the DICK the Dick brought me to the table in the beginning. Rummy brought Dick and Dick brought Rummy. PLUS - They are next-door neighbors!

]]> By: Erin http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7498 Erin Thu, 04 May 2006 17:36:57 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7498 Unfortunately, all of the New York tabloids (and various celebrities, like Giuliani) are calling for his head on a platter. (And you know we live in bizarro world when the Post's editorial is more level-headed than the Daily News'.) I agree, this is the best outcome, and not only because I oppose the death penalty. The NY Times coverage is pretty good, if anyone is curious about why the jury decided as they did, including <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/05/03/us/20060504_MOUSSAOUI_GRAPHIC.html" rel="nofollow">this graphic</a> explaining the mitigating factors that kept the jury from unanimously deciding on the death penalty. The most compelling argument to the jury seemed to be that Moussauoi had a horrific childhood. (It also shows that 3 jurors were not convinced Moussauoi was directly involved with 9/11, or that his knowledge of the plot was limited, which is very interesting.) Unfortunately, all of the New York tabloids (and various celebrities, like Giuliani) are calling for his head on a platter. (And you know we live in bizarro world when the Post’s editorial is more level-headed than the Daily News’.) I agree, this is the best outcome, and not only because I oppose the death penalty. The NY Times coverage is pretty good, if anyone is curious about why the jury decided as they did, including this graphic explaining the mitigating factors that kept the jury from unanimously deciding on the death penalty. The most compelling argument to the jury seemed to be that Moussauoi had a horrific childhood. (It also shows that 3 jurors were not convinced Moussauoi was directly involved with 9/11, or that his knowledge of the plot was limited, which is very interesting.)

]]> By: Sam http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7496 Sam Thu, 04 May 2006 17:15:54 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7496 The historians are relieved and I'm relieved, too. I'm also relieved that a majority of the American public seem to be on the same page with this outcome. I've heard some speculation on the media about why two of the 9/11 planners have not been brought to trial as yet: http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/04/otsc.bergen.toobin/ The historians are relieved and I’m relieved, too. I’m also relieved that a majority of the American public seem to be on the same page with this outcome.

I’ve heard some speculation on the media about why two of the 9/11 planners have not been brought to trial as yet:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/04/otsc.bergen.toobin/

]]> By: alau http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7495 alau Thu, 04 May 2006 17:08:30 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7495 I came across your blog googling for liberal blogs. Your posts are very thoughtful and informative and I'll definitely be checking back often. On NPR this morning, they quoted a relative of someone who died on 9/11 who said something along the lines of "That's a fit punishment. For someone who hates Americans as much as he does, he'll spend the rest of his life surrounded by them." I suppose if the inmates don't get to him first. I came across your blog googling for liberal blogs. Your posts are very thoughtful and informative and I’ll definitely be checking back often.

On NPR this morning, they quoted a relative of someone who died on 9/11 who said something along the lines of “That’s a fit punishment. For someone who hates Americans as much as he does, he’ll spend the rest of his life surrounded by them.”

I suppose if the inmates don’t get to him first.

]]> By: Rick http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7490 Rick Thu, 04 May 2006 15:54:30 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7490 A lot of good reasons here why he should not be put to death but the most underlying one is that it is wrong. Even Saddam shouldnot be put to death, just because we would only be killing one man does not make it any more right than mass murder. I believe if you want to be cruel you can imprison someone with no enjoyment of life, nothing to see but your cell, artificial light and tasteless food. Gaurds with helmuts so not even human contact allowed. God,karma whatever takes care of it in the end and that covers our actions as well. A lot of good reasons here why he should not be put to death but the most underlying one is that it is wrong. Even Saddam shouldnot be put to death, just because we would only be killing one man does not make it any more right than mass murder. I believe if you want to be cruel you can imprison someone with no enjoyment of life, nothing to see but your cell, artificial light and tasteless food. Gaurds with helmuts so not even human contact allowed. God,karma whatever takes care of it in the end and that covers our actions as well.

]]> By: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7487 maha Thu, 04 May 2006 14:55:48 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7487 <i>Correct me if I’m wrong, but Moussaoui is going to an American jail that houses American prisoners, right?</i> He's most likely going to go to the same <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence" rel="nofollow">supermax prison</a> that is holding Richard Reid, Ted Kaczynski, and Terry Nichols, in which case nobody will be able to get to him. He won't be in a general prison population. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Moussaoui is going to an American jail that houses American prisoners, right?

He’s most likely going to go to the same supermax prison that is holding Richard Reid, Ted Kaczynski, and Terry Nichols, in which case nobody will be able to get to him. He won’t be in a general prison population.

]]> By: PoliticalCritic http://www.mahablog.com/2006/05/03/historians-are-relieved/comment-page-1/#comment-7485 PoliticalCritic Thu, 04 May 2006 14:14:02 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=672#comment-7485 Correct me if I'm wrong, but Moussaoui is going to an American jail that houses American prisoners, right? There are two things mass murderers have no patience with in prison...child molesters and terrorists. Moussaoui will be dead within a few years. The prisoners will kill him. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Moussaoui is going to an American jail that houses American prisoners, right?

There are two things mass murderers have no patience with in prison…child molesters and terrorists. Moussaoui will be dead within a few years. The prisoners will kill him.

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