Comments on: The Fantasy Lives of Chickenhawks, II http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:10:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: The Mahablog » Facts and Fictions, Part II http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-40674 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:46:10 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-40674 [...] Many have remarked on the rich fantasy lives of chickenhawks. See, for example, this Think Progress post and my comments on a Mark Steyn column. Digby wrote awhile back that many righties seem to be living a vicarious fantasy life of war-movie glory through the troops: We are dealing with a group of right wing glory seekers who chose long ago to eschew putting themselves on the line in favor of tough talk and empty posturing — the Vietnam chickenhawks and their recently hatched offspring of the new Global War On Terrorism. These are men (mostly) driven by the desire to prove their manhood but who refuse to actually test their physical courage. Neither are they able to prove their virility as they are held hostage by prudish theocrats and their own shortcomings. So they adopt the pose of warrior but never actually place themselves under fire. This is a psychologically difficult position to uphold. Bullshitting yourself is never without a cost. … [...] […] Many have remarked on the rich fantasy lives of chickenhawks. See, for example, this Think Progress post and my comments on a Mark Steyn column. Digby wrote awhile back that many righties seem to be living a vicarious fantasy life of war-movie glory through the troops: We are dealing with a group of right wing glory seekers who chose long ago to eschew putting themselves on the line in favor of tough talk and empty posturing — the Vietnam chickenhawks and their recently hatched offspring of the new Global War On Terrorism. These are men (mostly) driven by the desire to prove their manhood but who refuse to actually test their physical courage. Neither are they able to prove their virility as they are held hostage by prudish theocrats and their own shortcomings. So they adopt the pose of warrior but never actually place themselves under fire. This is a psychologically difficult position to uphold. Bullshitting yourself is never without a cost. … […]

]]> by: VotingVet http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21955 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:45:46 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21955 I agree it's painful to talk about little chickenhawk nothings like this. But somebody has to drag them out of the shadows into the light of day where we can all laugh at their hypocrisy and folly. But it's really hard to laugh for all the choking I find myself doing! That this little pisant would criticize the troops on the ground from his desk 10,000 miles away from danger -- and insist that his pen-pushing "role" is somehow significant, equal to or even superior to theirs-- is as outrageous as it is typical of the whole rats' nest of sissy-hawk neoconservatives, from the Commander in Chief on down. Would that an army of the dead would haunt their dreams and leave them all lying in a bed/puddle of their own excreta. I agree it’s painful to talk about little chickenhawk nothings like this. But somebody has to drag them out of the shadows into the light of day where we can all laugh at their hypocrisy and folly. But it’s really hard to laugh for all the choking I find myself doing! That this little pisant would criticize the troops on the ground from his desk 10,000 miles away from danger — and insist that his pen-pushing “role” is somehow significant, equal to or even superior to theirs– is as outrageous as it is typical of the whole rats’ nest of sissy-hawk neoconservatives, from the Commander in Chief on down. Would that an army of the dead would haunt their dreams and leave them all lying in a bed/puddle of their own excreta.

]]> by: erinyes http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21881 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:28:29 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21881 Actually Maha, comment 14 is not far from the truth. There are many service men and women serving in Iraq in order to get their citizenship. Most come from the Dominican republic, Mexico, and Central America.I commented at Antiwar.com over 2 years ago that a likely pool of conscripts exists in exactly those locations. a pool which would tend to not inflame middle America and avoid a draft. No doubt many are mercenaries which don't need to be reported as KIA or POW.I do think he was being sarcastic, it is what what it is.....I believe this was is far dirtier than we can imagine. Actually Maha, comment 14 is not far from the truth. There are many service men and women serving in Iraq in order to get their citizenship. Most come from the Dominican republic, Mexico, and Central America.I commented at Antiwar.com over 2 years ago that a likely pool of conscripts exists in exactly those locations. a pool which would tend to not inflame middle America and avoid a draft. No doubt many are mercenaries which don’t need to be reported as KIA or POW.I do think he was being sarcastic, it is what what it is…..I believe this was is far dirtier than we can imagine.

]]> by: harry "snapper" organs http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21877 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:17:30 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21877 To quote Jesus' General, "They also serve who only sit and wank." To quote Jesus’ General, “They also serve who only sit and wank.”

]]> by: darrelplant http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21863 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:14:48 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21863 I think he should hop the next flight over to Iraq and go around telling the soldiers carrying machine guns there that they're not doing their job right and that they're a bunch of whiny pussies who can't whip the Iraqis. That would fix the problem, I think, and I doubt he'd be publishing anymore columns along these lines. I think he should hop the next flight over to Iraq and go around telling the soldiers carrying machine guns there that they’re not doing their job right and that they’re a bunch of whiny pussies who can’t whip the Iraqis. That would fix the problem, I think, and I doubt he’d be publishing anymore columns along these lines.

]]> by: Internet Friend http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21861 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:02:19 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21861 I don't know who the fuck Steyn is, but he's clearly got a hard-on for Bush in his cheerleader costume. Cheerleaders miles from the action as important as those in the action. That's rich. Christ, is this guy retarded? I don’t know who the fuck Steyn is, but he’s clearly got a hard-on for Bush in his cheerleader costume. Cheerleaders miles from the action as important as those in the action. That’s rich. Christ, is this guy retarded?

]]> by: blogenfreude http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21859 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:19:47 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21859 <i>If he is so tough why not volunteer and suit up oh yeah he cant he’s not a American Citizen (canadian)</i> I had a Canadian girlfriend who moved here and signed up for the Marine Corps. He could do that, but he's probably too busy fighting that War of Ideas. If he is so tough why not volunteer and suit up oh yeah he cant he’s not a American Citizen (canadian)

I had a Canadian girlfriend who moved here and signed up for the Marine Corps. He could do that, but he’s probably too busy fighting that War of Ideas.

]]> by: lib4 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21858 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:12:18 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21858 If he is so tough why not volunteer and suit up oh yeah he cant he's not a American Citizen (canadian) Well since you love this country' current war effort put your money where your mouth is and get US citizenship then you can be a General all you want from Iraq sir... If he is so tough why not volunteer and suit up oh yeah he cant he’s not a American Citizen (canadian)

Well since you love this country’ current war effort put your money where your mouth is and get US citizenship then you can be a General all you want from Iraq sir…

]]> by: Crooks and Liars » Mike’s Blog Round up http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21855 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:34:47 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21855 [...] The Mahablog: The fantasy lives of Chickenhawks, ll [...] […] The Mahablog: The fantasy lives of Chickenhawks, ll […]

]]> by: temperance http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21844 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:33:28 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/30/the-fantasy-lives-of-chickenhawks-ii/#comment-21844 jeez, I hope they were kidding. I love how Steyn criticizes education in the same sentence that he uses a fake word. I couldn't find "civilizational" in any of my dictionaries. jeez, I hope they were kidding.

I love how Steyn criticizes education in the same sentence that he uses a fake word. I couldn’t find “civilizational” in any of my dictionaries.

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