Comments on: “A Childish Fantasy” http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:05:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: fshk http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21944 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:33:05 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21944 A little off topic, but I was reading this morning both about rightie reactions to the Israel-Hezbollah war ("Woohoo! Violence! Go Israel!") and their responses to Mel Gibson's recent DUI arrest and his subsequent rabid anti-semitism ("Woohoo! We hate Jews, too! Go Mel Gibson!"). Good times. I agree with larkspur, Israel is a nation of people, not a mythical concept, and should be represented as such. I suspect a lot of fringe righties (and maybe even some more mainstream ones) have different reasons for supporting Israel than the rest of us do. A little off topic, but I was reading this morning both about rightie reactions to the Israel-Hezbollah war (”Woohoo! Violence! Go Israel!”) and their responses to Mel Gibson’s recent DUI arrest and his subsequent rabid anti-semitism (”Woohoo! We hate Jews, too! Go Mel Gibson!”). Good times.

I agree with larkspur, Israel is a nation of people, not a mythical concept, and should be represented as such. I suspect a lot of fringe righties (and maybe even some more mainstream ones) have different reasons for supporting Israel than the rest of us do.

]]> by: The Heretik » Blog Archive » Amen http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21921 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:14:39 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21921 [...] Catastrophe is at hand. The idea of routing Hezbollah has itself been routed. Yet the march to war steps up its pace. Fantasy has replaced sanity. [...] […] Catastrophe is at hand. The idea of routing Hezbollah has itself been routed. Yet the march to war steps up its pace. Fantasy has replaced sanity. […]

]]> by: Chief http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21910 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:29:33 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21910 Sec of State Rice maybe a brilliant academician. But she is way out of her league in real world negotiating. Most U.S. administrations would not have someone as incompetent as her in any position. This administration is so incredibly, so unbelievably incompetent that can't tell that she is a life-time minor leauger. Sec of State Rice maybe a brilliant academician. But she is way out of her league in real world negotiating.

Most U.S. administrations would not have someone as incompetent as her in any position. This administration is so incredibly, so unbelievably incompetent that can’t tell that she is a life-time minor leauger.

]]> by: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21882 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:45:34 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21882 <i>The US and Israel are like siamese twins now</i> Yeah, that's the victory al Qaida was trying to secure. We just married Israel in the eyes of the Muslim world. A stupid move! Bush is eager to conflate this conflict with Iraq. I think he believe that the more he expands the conflict the less his mistake in Iraq will appear to be. Krugman does a good job of looking at and explaining the situation. The US and Israel are like siamese twins now

Yeah, that’s the victory al Qaida was trying to secure. We just married Israel in the eyes of the Muslim world. A stupid move!

Bush is eager to conflate this conflict with Iraq. I think he believe that the more he expands the conflict the less his mistake in Iraq will appear to be.

Krugman does a good job of looking at and explaining the situation.

]]> by: joanr16 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21879 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:00:55 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21879 In a rational world, after 9/11 one of the things the U.S. Congress would have done is end all sales of military supplies to other countries, unless we are signatories to a mutual-defense treaty. We have no such treaty with Israel. It would have been a first step to disentangling ourselves from our lopsided involvement in the Middle East. Too bad we don't live in a rational world. In a rational world, after 9/11 one of the things the U.S. Congress would have done is end all sales of military supplies to other countries, unless we are signatories to a mutual-defense treaty. We have no such treaty with Israel. It would have been a first step to disentangling ourselves from our lopsided involvement in the Middle East. Too bad we don’t live in a rational world.

]]> by: larkspur http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21878 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:20:16 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21878 Paul Krugman is doing the sensible thing: he's talking about Israel as nation made up of people, instead of some myth or icon or coded signifier of rapture. What a drag that such an approach should be so refreshing. You wonder how much louder we could have yelled, given our lack of success with Shock and Awe. I'm waving my arms and yelling "Go around! Go around!" and the Olmert government still drives straight into hell. Look what we (the U.S. and Israel) have given the next few generations: blood, guilt, crushing responsibilities, remorse, and endless opportunities for making amends. Paul Krugman is doing the sensible thing: he’s talking about Israel as nation made up of people, instead of some myth or icon or coded signifier of rapture. What a drag that such an approach should be so refreshing.

You wonder how much louder we could have yelled, given our lack of success with Shock and Awe. I’m waving my arms and yelling “Go around! Go around!” and the Olmert government still drives straight into hell.

Look what we (the U.S. and Israel) have given the next few generations: blood, guilt, crushing responsibilities, remorse, and endless opportunities for making amends.

]]> by: renate http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21875 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:07:02 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/07/31/complaining-that-this-is-unfair-does-no-good-just-as-repeating-but-saddam-was-evil-does-nothing-to-improve-the-situation-in-iraq/#comment-21875 Could it be Bush and Olmert are getting pay-back for Schock and Awe? The US and Israel are like siamese twins now. The Us will not be able to broker agreements with both sides anymore. I is like Uri Avnery said: They mounted a tiger and don't know how to get off. It will be a ruff ride for all of us. Could it be Bush and Olmert are getting pay-back for Schock and Awe?

The US and Israel are like siamese twins now. The Us will not be able to broker agreements with both sides anymore.

I is like Uri Avnery said: They mounted a tiger and don’t know how to get off. It will be a ruff ride for all of us.

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