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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: The Mahablog &#187; Don&#8217;t Blame Vietnam</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-215961</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 17:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] “Hey, Hey, LBJ …” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] “Hey, Hey, LBJ …” [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: The Mahablog &#187; Don&#8217;t Blame McGovern II</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-40853</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] As I wrote in the first &amp;#8220;Don&amp;#8217;t Blame McGovern&amp;#8221; post, McGovern&amp;#8217;s campaign sank because of events and issues other than Vietnam. Chief among these was race and the emergence of the New Left, which helped Nixon a whole lot more than it helped McGovern. (See also &amp;#8220;Hey, Hey, LBJ,&amp;#8221; and &amp;#8220;Countercultural.&amp;#8221;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] As I wrote in the first &#8220;Don&#8217;t Blame McGovern&#8221; post, McGovern&#8217;s campaign sank because of events and issues other than Vietnam. Chief among these was race and the emergence of the New Left, which helped Nixon a whole lot more than it helped McGovern. (See also &#8220;Hey, Hey, LBJ,&#8221; and &#8220;Countercultural.&#8221;) [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: The Mahablog &#187; Don&#8217;t Blame McGovern</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-24515</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] The bare facts are that, as I wrote here, by 1972 at least 60 percent of the public thought the war in Vietnam was a mistake. While a minority of the public remained hawkish, and the Nixon Administration continued military action, the Nixon Administration was not promising to &amp;#8220;stay the course.&amp;#8221; Indeed, President Nixon kept promising the American people he was looking for a way out. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] The bare facts are that, as I wrote here, by 1972 at least 60 percent of the public thought the war in Vietnam was a mistake. While a minority of the public remained hawkish, and the Nixon Administration continued military action, the Nixon Administration was not promising to &#8220;stay the course.&#8221; Indeed, President Nixon kept promising the American people he was looking for a way out. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: ironranger</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-23550</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 01:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's a stretch for the neocon crowd to label protestors &amp;#38; progressive liberal bloggers these days as fringe long-haired hippies considering a large number are middle aged boomers &amp;#38; grandparents from all walks of life. It must be quite a disappointment to them. Maybe the neocons took a few magic carpet rides back in the 60's &amp;#38; 70's &amp;#38; are still having flashbacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s a stretch for the neocon crowd to label protestors &amp; progressive liberal bloggers these days as fringe long-haired hippies considering a large number are middle aged boomers &amp; grandparents from all walks of life. It must be quite a disappointment to them. Maybe the neocons took a few magic carpet rides back in the 60&#8217;s &amp; 70&#8217;s &amp; are still having flashbacks.
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		<title>by: Swami</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-23460</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>3 more hours...and Lieberman will become an independent... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>3 more hours&#8230;and Lieberman will become an independent&#8230; <img src='http://www.mahablog.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: temperance</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-23370</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maybe they're seeing &quot;trustifarians.&quot;
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trustafarian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maybe they&#8217;re seeing &#8220;trustifarians.&#8221;<br />
<a href='http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trustafarian' rel='nofollow'>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trustafarian</a>
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-23354</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd like to know where they're seeing &quot;hippies,&quot; smelly or not.  I've seen young people who dress the part, but the old attitude just isn't there any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d like to know where they&#8217;re seeing &#8220;hippies,&#8221; smelly or not.  I&#8217;ve seen young people who dress the part, but the old attitude just isn&#8217;t there any more.
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		<title>by: temperance</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-23341</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think you’re right about the brainwashing.  On those hideous conservative t-shirt sites, I keep seeing their “Hippies Smell” t-shirt (selling alongside supposedly funny t-shirts suggesting we should lynch journalists and use nuclear weapons in the Middle East).  My guess is that most people buying that t-shirt are YAF &amp;#38; College Republican types, not people who were actually alive during the “hippy” era.  I think the &quot;hippies smell&quot; line is similar to calling feminists of the 60s &amp;#38; 70s &quot;bra-burners&quot; -- it has nothing to do with historical reality, but it fits a stereotype of the counterculture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think you’re right about the brainwashing.  On those hideous conservative t-shirt sites, I keep seeing their “Hippies Smell” t-shirt (selling alongside supposedly funny t-shirts suggesting we should lynch journalists and use nuclear weapons in the Middle East).  My guess is that most people buying that t-shirt are YAF &amp; College Republican types, not people who were actually alive during the “hippy” era.  I think the &#8220;hippies smell&#8221; line is similar to calling feminists of the 60s &amp; 70s &#8220;bra-burners&#8221; &#8212; it has nothing to do with historical reality, but it fits a stereotype of the counterculture.
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-23288</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Do righties really fear the 60s or just like to use its stereotypes as a cudgel?&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, both, I think. I slowly came to realize that much of &quot;movement&quot; conservatism, including neoconservatism and certainly social conservatism, started as reaction to the counterculture. And the spawn of baby boom righties not old enough to remember the 1960s have been brainwashed to regard the counterculture with dread and horror. 

One little example: Last September after the big antiwar march around the White House I came across some rightie comments claiming the marchers were smelly and unwashed, which was always the establishment claim against freaks. (Which was weird because, truth be told, the bulk of us were well socialized into American middle class sensibilities about soap and toothpaste. If anything we practiced better hygiene than our detractors.) Anyway, since the crowd in Washington was not, in fact, smelly and unwashed, I have to assume the righties were just replaying old tapes. 

Weird stuff, as I say.</description>
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	<p>Oh, both, I think. I slowly came to realize that much of &#8220;movement&#8221; conservatism, including neoconservatism and certainly social conservatism, started as reaction to the counterculture. And the spawn of baby boom righties not old enough to remember the 1960s have been brainwashed to regard the counterculture with dread and horror. </p>
	<p>One little example: Last September after the big antiwar march around the White House I came across some rightie comments claiming the marchers were smelly and unwashed, which was always the establishment claim against freaks. (Which was weird because, truth be told, the bulk of us were well socialized into American middle class sensibilities about soap and toothpaste. If anything we practiced better hygiene than our detractors.) Anyway, since the crowd in Washington was not, in fact, smelly and unwashed, I have to assume the righties were just replaying old tapes. </p>
	<p>Weird stuff, as I say.
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		<title>by: temperance</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2006/08/07/hey-hey-lbj/#comment-23266</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Do righties really fear the 60s or just like to use its stereotypes as a cudgel?  

The political realignment that’s happened in this country in the last five years is simply amazing: Sandra Day O’Connor, a Reagan appointee, is considered “liberal.”  Others, who were arguably leftist or left-leaning, have gone completely nuts (see: Dershowitz, Alan).  And, the other day, I found myself nodding in agreement with Pat Buchannan and Chris Matthews as they discussed the growing Iraq civil war.  As Greenwald’s persuasively argued in recent posts, the central divide in the US right now is between neo-conservativism and the absence of neo-conservativism.

But right now, I have to try to get the image of David Broder with love beads out of my head . . . thanks maha!</description>
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	<p>The political realignment that’s happened in this country in the last five years is simply amazing: Sandra Day O’Connor, a Reagan appointee, is considered “liberal.”  Others, who were arguably leftist or left-leaning, have gone completely nuts (see: Dershowitz, Alan).  And, the other day, I found myself nodding in agreement with Pat Buchannan and Chris Matthews as they discussed the growing Iraq civil war.  As Greenwald’s persuasively argued in recent posts, the central divide in the US right now is between neo-conservativism and the absence of neo-conservativism.</p>
	<p>But right now, I have to try to get the image of David Broder with love beads out of my head . . . thanks maha!
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