Comments on: NIEs, Nays, Neighs http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:49:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Doug Hughes http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35412 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:19:46 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35412 Strengthening MODERATE Islam would be a marvelous strategy which the righties can't consider. Evangelicals believe that democracy in Iraq & Afghanistan will naturally allow them to spread Christianity in that part of the world. Ready for a laugh? If Bush & Co set up a secret program (because it could not be done in the open) to fund select moderate Islamic causes with BIG bucks, it would be leaked by a christain religious rightie to Pat Robertson before the ink on the plan was dry. And within 24 hours Jerry Faldwell would be on TV from Lynchburg (the name of his headquarters is SO appropriate) to preach on the nescesity of the separation of church and state. Yes, he is capable of that hypocracy with a totally straight face. Expect NO action to empower moderate Islamic leaders. Strengthening MODERATE Islam would be a marvelous strategy which the righties can’t consider. Evangelicals believe that democracy in Iraq & Afghanistan will naturally allow them to spread Christianity in that part of the world.

Ready for a laugh? If Bush & Co set up a secret program (because it could not be done in the open) to fund select moderate Islamic causes with BIG bucks, it would be leaked by a christain religious rightie to Pat Robertson before the ink on the plan was dry. And within 24 hours Jerry Faldwell would be on TV from Lynchburg (the name of his headquarters is SO appropriate) to preach on the nescesity of the separation of church and state. Yes, he is capable of that hypocracy with a totally straight face.

Expect NO action to empower moderate Islamic leaders.

]]> by: Allwar Isbad http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35407 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:04:10 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35407 We are getting deeper and deeper into the hole that our politicians are digging for us. Its all about spin for the present administration where black can represented as a form of "off-white". The sole pupose for the "War" was to create an indefinite neocon state, with off course Halliburton and Oil as the side benefits. It would be interesting to know that of the additional $70B passed for the "war efforts" today, how much actually gone to the troops and their eqipment needs and how much to the coffers of the "war-profiteers". Best was a Democrat I heard this morning on CSPAN. He finds the fact that habeas-corpus is being eliminated "troubling" , but we "have to" pass the bill this week to prosecute the terrorists.. And he claims he is a Cornell Law graduate. Even if Dems do win November, changing the direction of US policy inside and abroad is too difficult for them to handle. It is much easier to sit and do nothing. "Cry-wolf" whenever it feels politically good, just that. But do not try to make a change, its too "dangerous" and the "lobbyists" will frown on him ... We are getting deeper and deeper into the hole that our politicians are digging for us. Its all about spin for the present administration where black can represented as a form of “off-white”. The sole pupose for the “War” was to create an indefinite neocon state, with off course Halliburton and Oil as the side benefits. It would be interesting to know that of the additional $70B passed for the “war efforts” today, how much actually gone to the troops and their eqipment needs and how much to the coffers of the “war-profiteers”.
Best was a Democrat I heard this morning on CSPAN. He finds the fact that habeas-corpus is being eliminated “troubling” , but we “have to” pass the bill this week to prosecute the terrorists.. And he claims he is a Cornell Law graduate.
Even if Dems do win November, changing the direction of US policy inside and abroad is too difficult for them to handle. It is much easier to sit and do nothing. “Cry-wolf” whenever it feels politically good, just that. But do not try to make a change, its too “dangerous” and the “lobbyists” will frown on him …

]]> by: the Rev. Mike http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35394 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:46:06 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35394 Anyone wishing to see the herts and minds of the Iraqi people being poisoned against us has only to read Riverbend's blog. Her commentary has been a microcosm of the Iraqi people for me. To watch her hope turn to rage then to despair was heartrending. BushCo has truly lost this war even as it was just begun. Osama must be so pleased. Hopefully the American people can be woken up and an admin elected that can begin to repair the horrific damage done. A wonderful post, as always. I know can always count on Mahablog for my daily dose of interesting topics, common sense, fabulous writing and just a hint of snark. Everything goes better with just a bit of snark. Anyone wishing to see the herts and minds of the Iraqi people being poisoned against us has only to read Riverbend’s blog. Her commentary has been a microcosm of the Iraqi people for me. To watch her hope turn to rage then to despair was heartrending. BushCo has truly lost this war even as it was just begun. Osama must be so pleased. Hopefully the American people can be woken up and an admin elected that can begin to repair the horrific damage done.

A wonderful post, as always. I know can always count on Mahablog for my daily dose of interesting topics, common sense, fabulous writing and just a hint of snark. Everything goes better with just a bit of snark.

]]> by: Donna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35381 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:38:01 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35381 If Bush and CO needed to create reasons for staying in Iraq to build permanent invader bases and eventually deliver control of Iraqi oil to their buddies, they really did nefariously serve their agenda by increasing turmoil and terrorism in the Middle East. Now we can stay in Iraq for 'good guy' reasons, right? If Bush and CO needed to create reasons for staying in Iraq to build permanent invader bases and eventually deliver control of Iraqi oil to their buddies, they really did nefariously serve their agenda by increasing turmoil and terrorism in the Middle East. Now we can stay in Iraq for ‘good guy’ reasons, right?

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35379 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:19:55 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35379 <i>Dare I wonder if Karl Rove’s role is scored for a castrati, or would that just be rude?</i> Well, maybe if Karl sings the role himself -- I think the Boy King role definitely should be for castrato. Nothing else would do. Dare I wonder if Karl Rove’s role is scored for a castrati, or would that just be rude?

Well, maybe if Karl sings the role himself — I think the Boy King role definitely should be for castrato. Nothing else would do.

]]> by: Paul http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35372 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:48:12 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35372 Brava! I don't know why, but I haven't laughed that hard for a while. Perhaps it's the parallel between the fantasy world of opera and the fantasy world of the White House. Dare I wonder if Karl Rove's role is scored for a castrati, or would that just be rude? Thank you for the exposition on the alternate interpretations of the NIE fragment released. I've been fascinated by reading a document that seems so damning which Bush seems to think supports his policies. Perhaps, since I have never been able to see the Emperor's new clothes, I am also unable to see their pony. Now that you've pointed out where they are looking, I still don't see a pony, but I have a better understanding of where they think they see one. Here's hoping that most of the public decides the <em>merda</em> is worth doing something about. Brava! I don’t know why, but I haven’t laughed that hard for a while. Perhaps it’s the parallel between the fantasy world of opera and the fantasy world of the White House. Dare I wonder if Karl Rove’s role is scored for a castrati, or would that just be rude?

Thank you for the exposition on the alternate interpretations of the NIE fragment released. I’ve been fascinated by reading a document that seems so damning which Bush seems to think supports his policies. Perhaps, since I have never been able to see the Emperor’s new clothes, I am also unable to see their pony. Now that you’ve pointed out where they are looking, I still don’t see a pony, but I have a better understanding of where they think they see one.

Here’s hoping that most of the public decides the merda is worth doing something about.

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35358 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:04:22 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35358 Yeah, yeah, <i>some</i> people minored in Italian. Yeah, yeah, some people minored in Italian.

]]> by: fshk http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35357 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:58:57 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35357 "Merda" is a better word than "defacazione." Just putting that out there. “Merda” is a better word than “defacazione.” Just putting that out there.

]]> by: Daniel DiRito http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35348 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:16:10 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35348 I contend that the Iraqi conflict, as well as the prevailing Middle East tensions, will be lessened in equal proportion to the success we achieve in providing for a Palestinian state. Given that the NIE assessment posits that, "If democratic reform efforts in Muslim majority nations progress over the next five years, political participation probably would drive a wedge between intransigent extremists and groups willing to use the political process to achieve their local objectives", then it would be reasonable to conclude that any progress with the Palestinian issue will greatly enhance the speculative potentiality of the NIE report. Absent the Palestinian effort, I'm of the opinion that the NIE timeframe is overly optimistic and dependent upon a relatively static progression without the prevalence of unforeseen events and escalations...which seems unlikely at best. Frankly, I doubt that the existing Republican approach or the alternative of withdrawal supported by a number Democrats will serve to alleviate the existing conditions and bring relative stability to the troubled region. Neither approach has the wherewithal to alter the prevailing sentiment. Conversely, a voluntary effort that would demonstrate our ability to discern the profound importance of a successful Palestinian state would, in my opinion, yield exponential goodwill. Given the current conditions, such an effort has little risk. Read more here: http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/09/portions_of_nie_report_declass.php I contend that the Iraqi conflict, as well as the prevailing Middle East tensions, will be lessened in equal proportion to the success we achieve in providing for a Palestinian state. Given that the NIE assessment posits that, “If democratic reform efforts in Muslim majority nations progress over the next five years, political participation probably would drive a wedge between intransigent extremists and groups willing to use the political process to achieve their local objectives”, then it would be reasonable to conclude that any progress with the Palestinian issue will greatly enhance the speculative potentiality of the NIE report. Absent the Palestinian effort, I’m of the opinion that the NIE timeframe is overly optimistic and dependent upon a relatively static progression without the prevalence of unforeseen events and escalations…which seems unlikely at best.

Frankly, I doubt that the existing Republican approach or the alternative of withdrawal supported by a number Democrats will serve to alleviate the existing conditions and bring relative stability to the troubled region. Neither approach has the wherewithal to alter the prevailing sentiment. Conversely, a voluntary effort that would demonstrate our ability to discern the profound importance of a successful Palestinian state would, in my opinion, yield exponential goodwill. Given the current conditions, such an effort has little risk.

Read more here:

http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/09/portions_of_nie_report_declass.php

]]> by: joanr16 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35347 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:09:15 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/09/27/nies-nays-neighs/#comment-35347 Ohh... lordy. <i>Finding the Pony,</i> a comic opera in Italian, by Barbara O'Brien. I love it so much! Queen Rania of Jordan can be the unheeded Voice of Reason. Ohh… lordy. Finding the Pony, a comic opera in Italian, by Barbara O’Brien. I love it so much! Queen Rania of Jordan can be the unheeded Voice of Reason.

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