Comments on: Why Does Dennis Prager Hate America? And Other Religious Questions http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:06:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: The Mahablog » Inalienable Rights http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-59775 Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:23:48 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-59775 [...] I already wrote about Dennis Prager and how he hates America, here. Since then I’ve heard from a number of people that U.S. Representatives don’t put their hands on anything when they are being officially sworn in, but sometimes pose with Bibles at photo-op swearings-in at another time. So this whole swearing-in controversy is bogus on several levels. [...] […] I already wrote about Dennis Prager and how he hates America, here. Since then I’ve heard from a number of people that U.S. Representatives don’t put their hands on anything when they are being officially sworn in, but sometimes pose with Bibles at photo-op swearings-in at another time. So this whole swearing-in controversy is bogus on several levels. […]

]]> by: Why Does Dennis Prager Hate America? And Other Religious Questions :: Newstack http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-54166 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:18:47 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-54166 [...] Read more: here [...] […] Read more: here […]

]]> by: Randy http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-52440 Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:55:38 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-52440 Apparently, it's only a few hard-core loonies who are in a lather about this. The chairman of the Minnesota Republican Party has said that it's a non-issue for him. Apparently, it’s only a few hard-core loonies who are in a lather about this. The chairman of the Minnesota Republican Party has said that it’s a non-issue for him.

]]> by: PoliBlog ™: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts » Prager Wrong on Oath of Office http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51709 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:54:38 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51709 [...] Beyond that, and perhaps more importantly, he is simply wrong to state that all of our elected officials have all used the Bible in their swearing in ceremonies. The Minnesota Monitor has some examples of officials who have used other religious texts in their swearing-ins. Also, Barbara O’Brien points to this list of which texts were used by Presidents in their swearing-in ceremonies. Note that there are a few (like Teddy Roosevelt) who did not use a Bible. LBJ used a missal, or Catholic prayer book. [...] […] Beyond that, and perhaps more importantly, he is simply wrong to state that all of our elected officials have all used the Bible in their swearing in ceremonies. The Minnesota Monitor has some examples of officials who have used other religious texts in their swearing-ins. Also, Barbara O’Brien points to this list of which texts were used by Presidents in their swearing-in ceremonies. Note that there are a few (like Teddy Roosevelt) who did not use a Bible. LBJ used a missal, or Catholic prayer book. […]

]]> by: ellenbrenna http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51500 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:53:35 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51500 Which part of "no religious test" is unclear to you guys? Really? Tolerance is part of the tradition it is written into the founding document it isn't some sort of sinister McGovernite invention meant to undermine American civilization. It is American civilization. Which part of “no religious test” is unclear to you guys? Really? Tolerance is part of the tradition it is written into the founding document it isn’t some sort of sinister McGovernite invention meant to undermine American civilization. It is American civilization.

]]> by: Doug Hughes http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51455 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:05:03 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51455 anonymoose - Educate us. Where in the Constitution, The Bill of Rights, The Declaration of Independence, Supreme Court decisions is this supremacy of Protestant Christian values enshrined? We eagerly await your reply. anonymoose -

Educate us. Where in the Constitution, The Bill of Rights, The Declaration of Independence, Supreme Court decisions is this supremacy of Protestant Christian values enshrined?

We eagerly await your reply.

]]> by: r4d20 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51447 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:46:24 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51447 Clarification: The SAD reasoning is coming from Prager, not the comments I chose to respond to. Clarification: The SAD reasoning is coming from Prager, not the comments I chose to respond to.

]]> by: r4d20 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51444 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:45:18 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51444 This kind of reasoning is simply SAD. <i>The whole concept of swearing on some sort of Holy Text is an anachronism,</i> I disagree. The act of swearing "on" something comes from the old practice of cementing an oath with an promise to the Gods to sacrifice something held dear in the event of violating that oath - a logical and natural practice from when life was hard , reliable legal instutitions were non-existent, and people believed in Gods who would punish them for oathbreaking. Words are cheap, but when a believer agrees to place his soul on the line then I am more willing to take his word. <i>By insisting this guy HAS to swear on a Bible, righties are essentially making a mockery of the entire concept of swearing on a Bible</i> It depends on how you see it. We would probably agree that the KEY is that the thing being sworn on MUST be of signifance to the person making the oath. I would trust the oath of a muslim who swore on the Bible less than I would one who swore on the Quran because I know he'll take the latter more seriously. To them, however, its much more...primitive: The Bible is the Holy Book of the True God, so swearing on it has significance, while the Quran is unholy book of a false idol, so swearing on it means nothing. This kind of reasoning is simply SAD.

The whole concept of swearing on some sort of Holy Text is an anachronism,

I disagree. The act of swearing “on” something comes from the old practice of cementing an oath with an promise to the Gods to sacrifice something held dear in the event of violating that oath - a logical and natural practice from when life was hard , reliable legal instutitions were non-existent, and people believed in Gods who would punish them for oathbreaking. Words are cheap, but when a believer agrees to place his soul on the line then I am more willing to take his word.

By insisting this guy HAS to swear on a Bible, righties are essentially making a mockery of the entire concept of swearing on a Bible

It depends on how you see it.

We would probably agree that the KEY is that the thing being sworn on MUST be of signifance to the person making the oath. I would trust the oath of a muslim who swore on the Bible less than I would one who swore on the Quran because I know he’ll take the latter more seriously.

To them, however, its much more…primitive: The Bible is the Holy Book of the True God, so swearing on it has significance, while the Quran is unholy book of a false idol, so swearing on it means nothing.

]]> by: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51442 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:44:26 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51442 anonymooze, you need to go back and read about how our Constitution was ratified. We are a secular nation by choice and we wouldn't have become a nation if religion had factored in to our nations birth. The religious authorities of that day understood that the only protections to their faith was a secular government. So we are a SECULAR nation.. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&#38;EAN=9780805077766&#38;itm=1 anonymooze, you need to go back and read about how our Constitution was ratified. We are a secular nation by choice and we wouldn’t have become a nation if religion had factored in to our nations birth. The religious authorities of that day understood that the only protections to their faith was a secular government. So we are a SECULAR nation..

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780805077766&itm=1

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51429 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:05:53 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2006/11/28/why-does-dennis-prager-hate-america-and-other-religious-questions/#comment-51429 Damn, that anonymoose is entertaining. Damn, that anonymoose is entertaining.

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