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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: Dboy</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-67376</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Whenever two men come together as one all over an altar boy's back in My name, there is My Church&quot;  --Jesus</description>
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		<title>by: GDAEman</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66771</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66771</guid>
					<description>Maja - Thanks for your reply. One note? One hit? Google &quot;Lebanon Damage&quot; for my one blogosphere hit ;-)  

Given your civility, I hope I won't be &quot;one note.&quot; I have commented in the past.

My dad explained the circular political spectrum to me when I was a kid in response to questions about &quot;None Dare Call it Conspiracy.&quot;  I recently used it as the basis for a critique of the media's portrayal of the 2006 mid-term election as evidence of a movement to the middle. I think a significant number of voters took a quantum jump, bypassing the middle.

But I'm troubled by the circular model of the political spectrum. Granted the model seems to &quot;explain&quot; the &quot;left&quot; regimes that exhibit centralized power like a right-wing dictatorship. But, are they honestly &quot;left,&quot; or rather, is that how we want to define the left?  

I've run across people who have returned to the linear political model based on thinking of Karl Hess. Perhaps it's an effort to reframe the concept of &quot;left.&quot; In a nut shell, &quot;right&quot; wing implies power in the hands of a few, and &quot;left&quot; wing implies distribution of power into the maximum number of hands.  * Shrug ?*

Yes, I think the political elite is discredited from a growing number of the people from whom they derive the &quot;consent&quot; to govern. The elite seems to be preparing for a global debacle. The US dollar reserve currency is slipping. They're running out of places to reinflate speculative bubbles; Thailand has just waved off some capital flows in a pretty desperate way. The gig is up on corporate globalization (neoliberal economic model) even if the payola pundits don't yet know it; the plutocrats do. I guess I buy into William Grieder's thesis that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060626/greider&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Future is Now.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maja - Thanks for your reply. One note? One hit? Google &#8220;Lebanon Damage&#8221; for my one blogosphere hit <img src='http://www.mahablog.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
	<p>Given your civility, I hope I won&#8217;t be &#8220;one note.&#8221; I have commented in the past.</p>
	<p>My dad explained the circular political spectrum to me when I was a kid in response to questions about &#8220;None Dare Call it Conspiracy.&#8221;  I recently used it as the basis for a critique of the media&#8217;s portrayal of the 2006 mid-term election as evidence of a movement to the middle. I think a significant number of voters took a quantum jump, bypassing the middle.</p>
	<p>But I&#8217;m troubled by the circular model of the political spectrum. Granted the model seems to &#8220;explain&#8221; the &#8220;left&#8221; regimes that exhibit centralized power like a right-wing dictatorship. But, are they honestly &#8220;left,&#8221; or rather, is that how we want to define the left?  </p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve run across people who have returned to the linear political model based on thinking of Karl Hess. Perhaps it&#8217;s an effort to reframe the concept of &#8220;left.&#8221; In a nut shell, &#8220;right&#8221; wing implies power in the hands of a few, and &#8220;left&#8221; wing implies distribution of power into the maximum number of hands.  * Shrug ?*</p>
	<p>Yes, I think the political elite is discredited from a growing number of the people from whom they derive the &#8220;consent&#8221; to govern. The elite seems to be preparing for a global debacle. The US dollar reserve currency is slipping. They&#8217;re running out of places to reinflate speculative bubbles; Thailand has just waved off some capital flows in a pretty desperate way. The gig is up on corporate globalization (neoliberal economic model) even if the payola pundits don&#8217;t yet know it; the plutocrats do. I guess I buy into William Grieder&#8217;s thesis that <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060626/greider" rel="nofollow"><b>The Future is Now.</b></a>
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66431</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 05:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>GDA -- of course there is a political elite, and that political elite is aristocratic, plutocratic, corporatist, and antidemocratic. The word &quot;discredited&quot; doesn't apply, however; discredited to whom? About what? Their service to their own interests hasn't been discredited, for example. They're doing a heck of a job with that.

There are endless discussions about the nature of that elite on this and other leftie blogs. If you think the leftie bloggers are &quot;accepting the rules of the game&quot; it makes me wonder who the hell you've been reading. 

How I define left -- Dig out a copy of Arthur M. Schlesinger 's The Vital Center. Find the Schlesinger - Poole diagram. Study it. 

&lt;i&gt;Sorry if my earlier comment had a sting.&lt;/i&gt;

It didn't. I just hope you aren't one of those tiresome one-note wonders who thinks he's found the magic solution to all political problems and won't accept disagreement. I hate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>GDA &#8212; of course there is a political elite, and that political elite is aristocratic, plutocratic, corporatist, and antidemocratic. The word &#8220;discredited&#8221; doesn&#8217;t apply, however; discredited to whom? About what? Their service to their own interests hasn&#8217;t been discredited, for example. They&#8217;re doing a heck of a job with that.</p>
	<p>There are endless discussions about the nature of that elite on this and other leftie blogs. If you think the leftie bloggers are &#8220;accepting the rules of the game&#8221; it makes me wonder who the hell you&#8217;ve been reading. </p>
	<p>How I define left &#8212; Dig out a copy of Arthur M. Schlesinger &#8217;s The Vital Center. Find the Schlesinger - Poole diagram. Study it. </p>
	<p><i>Sorry if my earlier comment had a sting.</i></p>
	<p>It didn&#8217;t. I just hope you aren&#8217;t one of those tiresome one-note wonders who thinks he&#8217;s found the magic solution to all political problems and won&#8217;t accept disagreement. I hate that.
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		<title>by: GDAEman</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66424</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66424</guid>
					<description>Maha - Thanks for your time. How do you define &lt;i&gt;left&lt;/i&gt;?  

I presume you accept that there is a &quot;political elite.&quot; Do you think it is discredited? I don't hear a lot of the &quot;Left Blogosphere&quot; delving into that level of discussion. Instead, they seem to accept the legitimacy of the rulers and the rules of the game, which work so much in favor of those with legions of lobbyists and lawyers who can negotiate their way through the complex rules (they wrote most of the rules). That level of discourse doesn't seem very &quot;original&quot; to me.

The proposed remedy of &quot;Restrict[ing] corporate rights at the constitutional level,&quot; might not be &quot;original,&quot; but it at least attempts to take the discourse beyond the superficial level of &quot;to surge or not to surge,&quot; or Parenti's &quot;original&quot; quip about &quot;Defeat with Honor.&quot;

Sorry if my earlier comment had a sting. I really appreciate do your blog. I just want people with good minds like yours to take the dialogue to a deeper level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maha - Thanks for your time. How do you define <i>left</i>?  </p>
	<p>I presume you accept that there is a &#8220;political elite.&#8221; Do you think it is discredited? I don&#8217;t hear a lot of the &#8220;Left Blogosphere&#8221; delving into that level of discussion. Instead, they seem to accept the legitimacy of the rulers and the rules of the game, which work so much in favor of those with legions of lobbyists and lawyers who can negotiate their way through the complex rules (they wrote most of the rules). That level of discourse doesn&#8217;t seem very &#8220;original&#8221; to me.</p>
	<p>The proposed remedy of &#8220;Restrict[ing] corporate rights at the constitutional level,&#8221; might not be &#8220;original,&#8221; but it at least attempts to take the discourse beyond the superficial level of &#8220;to surge or not to surge,&#8221; or Parenti&#8217;s &#8220;original&#8221; quip about &#8220;Defeat with Honor.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Sorry if my earlier comment had a sting. I really appreciate do your blog. I just want people with good minds like yours to take the dialogue to a deeper level.
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		<title>by: sisyphus</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66395</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush Jr are examples of men with some serious mental pathology. Lyndon Johnson had some, also.
Even Roosevelt evidenced a little whe he tried to pack the Supreme Court. 
One characteristic is that the end justifies means.
Neither the ends or the means are questioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush Jr are examples of men with some serious mental pathology. Lyndon Johnson had some, also.<br />
Even Roosevelt evidenced a little whe he tried to pack the Supreme Court.<br />
One characteristic is that the end justifies means.<br />
Neither the ends or the means are questioned.
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		<title>by: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66322</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Exactly.</description>
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66284</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Not a good scenario for the Dems.&lt;/i&gt;

'Twould be good for the country if the Republicans became &quot;regular&quot; again, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Not a good scenario for the Dems.</i></p>
	<p>&#8216;Twould be good for the country if the Republicans became &#8220;regular&#8221; again, though.
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66264</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I talk with more and more &quot;regular Republicans&quot; who are beginning to see the distinction between themselves and the neocons.  Many of them voted Democrat in the last election.  If they ever wake up and throw the neocons under the bus, they'll go right back to the GOP.  Not a good scenario for the Dems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I talk with more and more &#8220;regular Republicans&#8221; who are beginning to see the distinction between themselves and the neocons.  Many of them voted Democrat in the last election.  If they ever wake up and throw the neocons under the bus, they&#8217;ll go right back to the GOP.  Not a good scenario for the Dems.
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		<title>by: joanr16</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66263</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, what's up with Cheney's ticker?  It's long overdue for seizing.  Was he replaced by a robot shortly after the 2000 election?

All the Gerald Ford nostalgia has had me pondering the slimy, slippery slope of the GOP, from Ford's caretaker mini-presidency to the Cabal of Pure Evil that the party is today.  Maha, as usual, provides a concise and fascinating summary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yeah, what&#8217;s up with Cheney&#8217;s ticker?  It&#8217;s long overdue for seizing.  Was he replaced by a robot shortly after the 2000 election?</p>
	<p>All the Gerald Ford nostalgia has had me pondering the slimy, slippery slope of the GOP, from Ford&#8217;s caretaker mini-presidency to the Cabal of Pure Evil that the party is today.  Maha, as usual, provides a concise and fascinating summary.
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		<title>by: Swami</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/03/the-last-regular-republican/#comment-66257</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree with diane also. Cheney in particular appears pretty smug in sending a message to the American public that, &quot;You ain't gonna do shit about it, cause I've got it all figured out&quot;. I've seen Cheney on TV convey that message with a dismissive attitude toward attempts at accountability.. Yeah, right, we're just empty headed moonbats incapable of grasping the need for Cheney's forceful leadership and superb guidance.

Eff Cheney ...I hope his heart seizes soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I agree with diane also. Cheney in particular appears pretty smug in sending a message to the American public that, &#8220;You ain&#8217;t gonna do shit about it, cause I&#8217;ve got it all figured out&#8221;. I&#8217;ve seen Cheney on TV convey that message with a dismissive attitude toward attempts at accountability.. Yeah, right, we&#8217;re just empty headed moonbats incapable of grasping the need for Cheney&#8217;s forceful leadership and superb guidance.</p>
	<p>Eff Cheney &#8230;I hope his heart seizes soon.
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