Comments on: The Pentagon Goes Fishin’ http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/ Making the World Safe for Liberalism Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:08:45 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-70048 Swami Mon, 15 Jan 2007 04:03:35 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-70048 Erinyes, It would be nice if it were true and doable..One positive sign in the air is that Cheney came out of his cave today...that's an indication that Bush is feeling the heat. Cheney only comes out to remind the public that him and Bush are untouchable, and that in order to get to him or Bush we have to betray the sacrifices of the troops in the field. And of course, nothing could make Osama ( remember him?) happier then our questioning of the wisdom of our invasion of Iraq. We don't want to be Osama's stooges,do we? Erinyes, It would be nice if it were true and doable..One positive sign in the air is that Cheney came out of his cave today…that’s an indication that Bush is feeling the heat. Cheney only comes out to remind the public that him and Bush are untouchable, and that in order to get to him or Bush we have to betray the sacrifices of the troops in the field. And of course, nothing could make Osama ( remember him?) happier then our questioning of the wisdom of our invasion of Iraq. We don’t want to be Osama’s stooges,do we?

]]> By: erinyes http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-70025 erinyes Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:08:03 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-70025 Well, here's a little good news, 'hope it's true! http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/4728 Well, here’s a little good news, ‘hope it’s true!
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/4728

]]> By: Joe http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-69771 Joe Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:26:56 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-69771 commentors? co-mentors? commentors? co-mentors?

]]> By: sachem515 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-69639 sachem515 Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:00:26 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-69639 To #10 I say: 4 out of 5 blog commentors agree --> typos go away with a preview pane. To #10 I say:

4 out of 5 blog commentors agree –> typos go away with a preview pane.

]]> By: joanr16 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-69638 joanr16 Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:42:20 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-69638 c u n d gulag, you completely nailed my opinion of Libertarianism. Could I ask one teensy housekeeping favor, though? At the risk of sounding like that pathetic <i>Eats, Shoots and Leaves</i> woman, apostrophized plurals (e.g. monkey's and kid's, for monkeys and kids) are like nails on a blackboard to my reading brain. Sorry. We all have our weirdness; I guess that's mine. Otherwise, very cool comment. c u n d gulag, you completely nailed my opinion of Libertarianism. Could I ask one teensy housekeeping favor, though? At the risk of sounding like that pathetic Eats, Shoots and Leaves woman, apostrophized plurals (e.g. monkey’s and kid’s, for monkeys and kids) are like nails on a blackboard to my reading brain.

Sorry. We all have our weirdness; I guess that’s mine. Otherwise, very cool comment.

]]> By: sachem515 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-69636 sachem515 Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:36:24 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-69636 biggerbox suffers from pre 9/11 thinking. Records aren't needed, political will is. Please read Glenn Greenwald's post The collapse of the Bush presidency poses risks http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2007/01/collapse-of-bush-presidency-poses.html This is the closing paragraph: The most dangerous George Bush is one who feels weak, powerless and under attack. Those perceptions are intolerable for him and I doubt there are many limits, if there are any, on what he would be willing to do in order to restore a feeling of power and to rid himself of the sensations of his own weakness and defeat. biggerbox suffers from pre 9/11 thinking. Records aren’t needed, political will is.

Please read Glenn Greenwald’s post

The collapse of the Bush presidency poses risks

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2007/01/collapse-of-bush-presidency-poses.html

This is the closing paragraph:

The most dangerous George Bush is one who feels weak, powerless and under attack. Those perceptions are intolerable for him and I doubt there are many limits, if there are any, on what he would be willing to do in order to restore a feeling of power and to rid himself of the sensations of his own weakness and defeat.

]]> By: biggerbox http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-69635 biggerbox Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:18:50 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-69635 Gee, if only there were a way that military investigators with legitimate suspicions about people could get access to records, perhaps something where they would go to a special third-party who was supposed to be impartial ... they could show the reasons for their concern to this third-party who could 'judge' whether to give them permission ... to decide if the concerns were 'warranted'. Of course, such a system would probably only work well for hundreds of years. Gee, if only there were a way that military investigators with legitimate suspicions about people could get access to records, perhaps something where they would go to a special third-party who was supposed to be impartial … they could show the reasons for their concern to this third-party who could ‘judge’ whether to give them permission … to decide if the concerns were ‘warranted’.

Of course, such a system would probably only work well for hundreds of years.

]]> By: sachem515 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-69631 sachem515 Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:49:15 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-69631 There's a political solution to our military problem. Dick Cheney must go. The investigations are about to begin. Libby's gonna get Fitz'd. The congressional subpoenas will be issued. The weariness over constitutional erosion is palable. So in advance of the predictable claims of executive privilege, I believe the call for his resignation must begin to rise. Political will for the necessary must begin to be accumulated. It may seems a bit premature to some, but I expect it will resonate broadly as events unfold. There is no unitary executive. Not in this country. Sorry about yer luck Dick. "The object is a larger one, and the original overarching goal of this administration: expanding executive power, for its own sake". http://www.slate.com/id/2157493/ Since I expect no reader here to disagree with the above quote, then let's ask ourselves why we feel obliged to put up with this any longer. Congress is suffering fom a type of learned helplessness. Public outcry from most quarters must create intestinal fortitude. http://www.democrats.com/Congressional-Dems-Suffering-From-Battered-Spouse-Syndrome As I have said before, time is exceedingly of the essence. Do we really want Dick driving the bus at the next geopolitical crossroad? The framers put the impeachment clauses in the constitution for scenarios like this. Exercising our rights is an imperative. No signing statement on this one. Once this is all over, we will look back and wish Dick had spared us the inevitable vitriol. Men in multi-thousand dollar suits will try and tell America that this is complicated. It's not. He's a bad man. He's an enemy of the republic. He should've been cuffed years ago. Join the call for his resignation today. There’s a political solution to our military problem.

Dick Cheney must go.

The investigations are about to begin. Libby’s gonna get Fitz’d. The congressional subpoenas will be issued. The weariness over constitutional erosion is palable.

So in advance of the predictable claims of executive privilege, I believe the call for his resignation must begin to rise. Political will for the necessary must begin to be accumulated.

It may seems a bit premature to some, but I expect it will resonate broadly as events unfold. There is no unitary executive. Not in this country. Sorry about yer luck Dick.

“The object is a larger one, and the original overarching goal of this administration: expanding executive power, for its own sake”.

http://www.slate.com/id/2157493/

Since I expect no reader here to disagree with the above quote, then let’s ask ourselves why we feel obliged to put up with this any longer.

Congress is suffering fom a type of learned helplessness. Public outcry from most quarters must create intestinal fortitude.

http://www.democrats.com/Congressional-Dems-Suffering-From-Battered-Spouse-Syndrome

As I have said before, time is exceedingly of the essence. Do we really want Dick driving the bus at the next geopolitical crossroad?

The framers put the impeachment clauses in the constitution for scenarios like this. Exercising our rights is an imperative. No signing statement on this one.

Once this is all over, we will look back and wish Dick had spared us the inevitable vitriol. Men in multi-thousand dollar suits will try and tell America that this is complicated. It’s not. He’s a bad man. He’s an enemy of the republic. He should’ve been cuffed years ago.

Join the call for his resignation today.

]]> By: Bonnie http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-69627 Bonnie Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:46:26 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-69627 If this were being written about a President Hillary doing this, you can bet the farm that the right wingers would be in a snit. If this were being written about a President Hillary doing this, you can bet the farm that the right wingers would be in a snit.

]]> By: erinyes http://www.mahablog.com/2007/01/14/the-pentagon-goes-fishin/comment-page-1/#comment-69578 erinyes Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:58:33 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=1368#comment-69578 Well, Commander Codpiece said (and I quote) "When we're talkin' about war, we're really talkin' 'bout peace".( Orwell rolls in his grave) My biggest concern is that some zealots will be appointed positions of power (as if they haven't already), and we'll have a regular inquisition. Freedom is on the march! Wave good-bye........ Well, Commander Codpiece said (and I quote) “When we’re talkin’
about war, we’re really talkin’ ’bout peace”.( Orwell rolls in his grave) My biggest concern is that some zealots will be appointed positions of power (as if they haven’t already), and we’ll have a regular inquisition.
Freedom is on the march! Wave good-bye……..

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