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	<title>Comments on: Giuliani Time, Part II</title>
	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: David in NYC</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-107076</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s not illegal to cheat on your wife.&lt;/i&gt;

Half Sigma --

Really?  Then why are there laws against adultery?  Why will it get you court-martialed in the US military services?

Perhaps you might consider either (a) doing some research, or (b) changing your screen name to Half Wit.</description>
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	<p>Half Sigma &#8211;</p>
	<p>Really?  Then why are there laws against adultery?  Why will it get you court-martialed in the US military services?</p>
	<p>Perhaps you might consider either (a) doing some research, or (b) changing your screen name to Half Wit.
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		<title>by: fshk</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-84041</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Guiliani was also tremendously unpopular before 9/11. I have friends who lived in NYC in the 90s who start frothing if you even mention Mayor Rudy. 

A few additional points: 

+ I ran into him once in a Barnes &amp;#38; Noble. He's really tall. 
+ The new inter-department communication system that is intended to replace the one that failed so badly on 9/11 is still not slated to be operational until 2009, or sometime ridiculously far in the future. Why was this not done 15 years ago?
+ For contrast to the Diallo shooting, Google Sean Bell. Very similar circumstances: an unarmed black man was recently gunned down by police, on his wedding day no less. Within a day or two, Mayor Bloomberg did a press conference with Al Sharpton. A week or two later, a group protesting police brutality was granted a permit to march down 34th Street -- a shopping mecca -- 2 Saturdays before Christmas. I seriously doubt that would have been allowed during Giuliani's reign. 
+ Crime did decrease significantly under Giuliani, which I think he deserves a certain amount of credit for, but it has continued to decrease under Bloomberg with far less authortarian tactics and policies. Citizens' groups and neighborhood organizations deserve a lot of credit for cleaning up New York, of course, but Giuliani usually gets the credit/blame for making parts of New York the safe tourist attractions they are today. 
+ The nail in the coffin for me personally was Rudy's speech at the 2004 RNC. He sold New York right down the river. 

I bought into the post-9/11 PR blitz at the time. It was comforting to see the mayor walking around lower Manhattan in his shirtsleeves. He's also got a certain kitschy-ness to him: hosting SNL and doing skits in drag, for example. But a closer examination of his tenure as mayor and even his career before that reveals some scary stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Guiliani was also tremendously unpopular before 9/11. I have friends who lived in NYC in the 90s who start frothing if you even mention Mayor Rudy. </p>
	<p>A few additional points: </p>
	<p>+ I ran into him once in a Barnes &amp; Noble. He&#8217;s really tall.<br />
+ The new inter-department communication system that is intended to replace the one that failed so badly on 9/11 is still not slated to be operational until 2009, or sometime ridiculously far in the future. Why was this not done 15 years ago?<br />
+ For contrast to the Diallo shooting, Google Sean Bell. Very similar circumstances: an unarmed black man was recently gunned down by police, on his wedding day no less. Within a day or two, Mayor Bloomberg did a press conference with Al Sharpton. A week or two later, a group protesting police brutality was granted a permit to march down 34th Street &#8212; a shopping mecca &#8212; 2 Saturdays before Christmas. I seriously doubt that would have been allowed during Giuliani&#8217;s reign.<br />
+ Crime did decrease significantly under Giuliani, which I think he deserves a certain amount of credit for, but it has continued to decrease under Bloomberg with far less authortarian tactics and policies. Citizens&#8217; groups and neighborhood organizations deserve a lot of credit for cleaning up New York, of course, but Giuliani usually gets the credit/blame for making parts of New York the safe tourist attractions they are today.<br />
+ The nail in the coffin for me personally was Rudy&#8217;s speech at the 2004 RNC. He sold New York right down the river. </p>
	<p>I bought into the post-9/11 PR blitz at the time. It was comforting to see the mayor walking around lower Manhattan in his shirtsleeves. He&#8217;s also got a certain kitschy-ness to him: hosting SNL and doing skits in drag, for example. But a closer examination of his tenure as mayor and even his career before that reveals some scary stuff.
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		<title>by: mim</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-83823</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I might remind you that in some places making false charges is frowned upon.&lt;/i&gt;

Like the Bible: Exodus 20:16.</description>
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	<p>Like the Bible: Exodus 20:16.
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		<title>by: AndrewBW</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-83751</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Years ago when Bob Herbert worked for the NY Daily News he wrote a column on Ed Meese that contained one of my all time favorite lines, calling Meese &quot;a boil on the buttocks of America.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Years ago when Bob Herbert worked for the NY Daily News he wrote a column on Ed Meese that contained one of my all time favorite lines, calling Meese &#8220;a boil on the buttocks of America.&#8221;
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		<title>by: End of Silence - Freedom hating on the internets since 2002 &#187; Giuliani</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-83748</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...]   By ttrentham Anybody considering voting for Rudy Giuliani in 2008 needs to read these two posts from Mahablogfirst. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;]   By ttrentham Anybody considering voting for Rudy Giuliani in 2008 needs to read these two posts from Mahablogfirst. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-83736</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;It IS illegal to rape someone, &lt;/i&gt;

Since whatever rape allegations that were ever brought against Mr. Clinton were entirely unsubstantiated, I might remind you that in some places making false charges is frowned upon.

&lt;i&gt;it IS illegal to lie under oath at a deposition or in front of a Grand Jury.&lt;/i&gt;

But it's not an impeachable offense, especially on a personal matter that doesn't directly relate to criminal charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>It IS illegal to rape someone, </i></p>
	<p>Since whatever rape allegations that were ever brought against Mr. Clinton were entirely unsubstantiated, I might remind you that in some places making false charges is frowned upon.</p>
	<p><i>it IS illegal to lie under oath at a deposition or in front of a Grand Jury.</i></p>
	<p>But it&#8217;s not an impeachable offense, especially on a personal matter that doesn&#8217;t directly relate to criminal charges.
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		<title>by: Half Sigma</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-83730</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's not illegal to cheat on your wife.

It IS illegal to rape someone, it IS illegal to lie under oath at a deposition or in front of a Grand Jury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s not illegal to cheat on your wife.</p>
	<p>It IS illegal to rape someone, it IS illegal to lie under oath at a deposition or in front of a Grand Jury.
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		<title>by: mim</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-83337</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Giuliani had a way of stonewalling that would do Dick Cheney proud.  Whenever a reporter asked him about something that didn't add up, Giuliani had the same non-answer: &quot;That's political.&quot;

One reason Giuliani was re-elected--I don't know if it was the main reason--was that his opponent, Ruth Messinger, came off as a complete wuss, so many of us held our noses and voted for Giuliani, figuring that a meanie might be a halfway decent mayor, but a pushover can never be even that.  But as Jimmy Breslin said in an earlier campaign, New York is a mean enough city without having a mean mayor.

In the Giuliani-Messinger campaign, Giuliani attacked Messinger for not attending the Columbus Day Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral.  For Pete's sake, Ruth Messinger is Jewish!  Does Giuliani ever attend High Holy Day services?

No wonder the WNYC radio host Steve Post pronounced Rudy's surname with a hard G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Giuliani had a way of stonewalling that would do Dick Cheney proud.  Whenever a reporter asked him about something that didn&#8217;t add up, Giuliani had the same non-answer: &#8220;That&#8217;s political.&#8221;</p>
	<p>One reason Giuliani was re-elected&#8211;I don&#8217;t know if it was the main reason&#8211;was that his opponent, Ruth Messinger, came off as a complete wuss, so many of us held our noses and voted for Giuliani, figuring that a meanie might be a halfway decent mayor, but a pushover can never be even that.  But as Jimmy Breslin said in an earlier campaign, New York is a mean enough city without having a mean mayor.</p>
	<p>In the Giuliani-Messinger campaign, Giuliani attacked Messinger for not attending the Columbus Day Mass at St. Patrick&#8217;s Cathedral.  For Pete&#8217;s sake, Ruth Messinger is Jewish!  Does Giuliani ever attend High Holy Day services?</p>
	<p>No wonder the WNYC radio host Steve Post pronounced Rudy&#8217;s surname with a hard G.
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		<title>by: Ethel-to-Tilly</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-83328</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt; He is autocratic, intolerant of criticism, and as mayor used the NYPD as his private praetorian guard. In fact, he combines many of the worst qualities of Richard Nixon and George W. Bush.&lt;/i&gt;

You got it exactly right - he's too thin-skinned and authoritarian and responds to criticism in incredibly petty ways.  There's way too much Nixon in there for the good of the country and the last thing we need after Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i> He is autocratic, intolerant of criticism, and as mayor used the NYPD as his private praetorian guard. In fact, he combines many of the worst qualities of Richard Nixon and George W. Bush.</i></p>
	<p>You got it exactly right - he&#8217;s too thin-skinned and authoritarian and responds to criticism in incredibly petty ways.  There&#8217;s way too much Nixon in there for the good of the country and the last thing we need after Bush.
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		<title>by: David Looney</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/06/giuliani-time-part-ii/#comment-83263</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for this. People have been asking about why I don't like Rudy and I could never point out one thing he had done, since I couldn't remember any incident.

But now I've got this post to point out just how bad Rudy would be.

Donna- Given past behavior of the MSM they will ignore all the bad stuff he's done and focus on how revitalized central park etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for this. People have been asking about why I don&#8217;t like Rudy and I could never point out one thing he had done, since I couldn&#8217;t remember any incident.</p>
	<p>But now I&#8217;ve got this post to point out just how bad Rudy would be.</p>
	<p>Donna- Given past behavior of the MSM they will ignore all the bad stuff he&#8217;s done and focus on how revitalized central park etc.
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