Comments on: Who You Callin’ “Conservative”?

by: fshk

Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:32:02 +0000

The only reason I can fathom for wanting to categorize Imus in any party is so that one group can say, “Imus represents the other guys, and we all agree he acted appallingly, ergo the other guys act appallingly.” Otherwise, why can’t we just say, “Imus is an overgrown teenager who crossed a line,” and leave it at that.

by: Steve M.

Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:28:21 +0000

You may already know this, but the L.A. Times gave a big boost to this line of argument today with "Democratic politicians lose a soapbox with Imus." Sigh.

by: Bonnie

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:28:26 +0000

Well, it didn’t work.

by: Bonnie

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:27:06 +0000

Regarding the myth of the liberal media, the only way I have been able to explain to friends is with graphics, which I do fairly well by hand; but, have not discovered how to demonstrate it here. I will give it a try; but will apologize if I blow every thing away. I just don’t do this tuff very well.

___________________________________________________
RL L M C RC
—————–

RL=Radical Liberal
L=Liberal
M=Middle
C=Conservative
RC=Radical Conservative

The people in the dotted line area are the people who whined about a liberal press; but, look at how much of any political thought is to the left of those people. I always thought the media was fair and balanced (dare I say that) and believed the whiners should have been ignored. No changes needed to be made to cover the news. But, we don’t have news any more; we just have entertainment.

Well, I hope this shows up as it was typed. If not, most every one here are very talented and perhaps will be able to figure out what I was trying to show.

by: justme

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:16:16 +0000

For the record,speaking as someone who used to be up to watch the imus show in 1999/2000 it seems to me imus supported bush in 2000….it took him four years to smarten up, which at least makes a bigot look smarter than the majority of the country…lets not forget even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I don’t belong to a party.And I am pretty hard to label so it really doesn’t matter to me who owns the imus circus…but what does matter to me is who is keeping this circus alive.
I wonder, without looking it up if anyone,right,left or center can tell me how many troops have died since we stopped paying attention to the real world and decided to focus all of our anger on imus.Don’t get me wrong, there is no defense for imus or his nappy comments but for cripes sake, he said it to a women’s basketball team…the offense was against them why can’t we let THEM deal with it?It really is none of our damn business…yet here we are not talking about , sorry to say, things a lot more pressing that are going on in the world RIGHT NOW.The problem has been dealt with…He has been fired,destroyed…along with any chance for healing the wounds…the horse is dead,, the only reason to hook the carcass up and drag it behind the tractor is to avoid paying attention to the big dead pink elephants.The horse is dead, can we stop beating it now???
imus said a rotten thing…now he is going to pay for it…why the hell is it none stop 911 style coverage on the news?What is the left hand doing why we watch the right?This is the dumbest thing I have ever witnessed from a bunch of people who I had hoped were smarter than me… somehow I wonder if anyone will be happy until imus is stoned to death in public…and to make stupid even bigger I just want to point out how many times the phrase “nappy headed ho’s ” was repeated by ever anchor on tv.. imus got fired for saying it but what will we give to the rest of the talking bobble heads for repeating it over and over and over???The medal of freedom perhaps???If the phrase was so friggin bad imus needs a public flogging then why not fire EVERY bobble head who repeated it???
Yes the best reason to keep this story alive and well is to avoid talking about a lot of things the republicans would rather not talk about.The same reason I have seen instapud doing reviews on products on rough days.. they would rather talk about which toilet tissue absorbs more…
And a tip to my left friends to ponder…if this is the “crappy people lotto” and we have to pick teams…if I were you I would agree to take imus and his stupid mouth over bush and his merry band of war criminals ANYDAY… The right OWNS that SOB and all he and dick will end up costing this great nation …and we will pay long long after imus has been forgotten….hmmm lets toss this on the scales….imus the bigot or king george and dick the war criminals…who would you pick if you had to?I guess we know who the right has chosen…
It reminds me of the “racial draft” skit that Dave Chappelle did on his show only this would be the “moron draft”?…speaking of draft… isn’t there a war going on???

by: teninchman

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:09:39 +0000

Do’h!! I’ve been reading digby for over a year and I’d always assumed digby was male.

by: bruce

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:02:13 +0000

digby’s a she??

by: darms

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:14:04 +0000

While GW may not be a “conservative” per se, he is most certainly a conservative Republican, a “Reagan on steroids” if you will, one who has been enabled by a rubber stamp conservative Republican congress. Governmnet by conservative Republicans according to their conservative Republican principles is why we’re in this smoking crater that used to be the US of A. I shan’t let anyone get away with this “Bush is not a conservative” crap, not if I can do anything about it. Dammit.

by: Daniel DiRito

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:33:24 +0000

Frankly, we are fast becoming the epitome of a Jerry Springer society. It seems to have become more important to have an audience and notoriety when confronting conflict than it is to attain resolve and mutual respect. That model seems to serve the needs of the exploited and those who seek to exploit; reinforcing all that relegates objectivity to the outhouse while making the frailty and imperfection of the human condition a spectacle that harkens back to the Coliseum.

This situation isn’t and shouldn’t be about whether liberals or conservatives, this race or that race, hip hop or honky-tonk, one group or another, are more offensive and therefore more responsible for all that is wrong with America. I am not capable of judging the whole of Don Imus nor am I capable of crafting a recipe to fix all of America…and neither are the countless pundits and partisans who have sought to frame it so.

I’m not a religious person…but I often find kinship with the imagery surrounding the portrayal of one called Jesus and his teachings of understanding and forgiveness. For all the banter I hear about the Bible and Christian values, it certainly seems to me that we are fast abandoning what many view as the sacred “tablets” in favor of the sacrosanct tabloids. If I’m right, all I can say is heaven help us.

Read more about the dynamics that lead a situation to become larger than the sum of its parts…here:

http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/imus_bias_devils_heaven.php

by: grannyeagle

Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:03:33 +0000

I used to watch the Imus show when I lived in the Eastern time zone. It was funny at times and I think that’s the way he wanted his show to be. It amazed me that he could get away with some of the things he said because he did make fun of everyone, even his bosses at MSNBC. I concluded that he must have had a lot of influence to be able to do that. The positive side of that was the journalists and the politicians who came on his show were more relaxed and would make comments they would not make elsewhere. In other words they came across as human.
Imus has referred to himself as a conservative. I found him to be fiercely independent and, yes, arrogant. However he impressed me as a man with a good heart and not mean-spirited in any way. He has been open about his past as an alcoholic and drug abuser. He also has a personality and temperament that is quick to anger. He “flies off the handle”.
Most of the derogatory comments on his show were supposed to be funny and he allowed people to make fun of him too.
This is not to defend Imus as I do not think his comments about the Rutgers team were appropriate but I hate labels and I prefer to see him as a human that makes mistakes. Conservative, liberal, what does it matter?