Comments on: More Late-Term Confusion http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:39:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: The Mahablog » Haley Barbour, Baby Killer http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/#comment-315736 Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:28:57 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/#comment-315736 [...] I mentioned this in the last post – in an article to be published in tomorrow’s New York Times, Erik Eckholm writes that infant mortality rates in some of the southern states are going up. To the shock of Mississippi officials, who in 2004 had seen the infant mortality rate — defined as deaths by the age of 1 year per thousand live births — fall to 9.7, the rate jumped sharply in 2005, to 11.4. The national average in 2003, the last year for which data have been compiled, was 6.9. Smaller rises also occurred in 2005 in Alabama, North Carolina and Tennessee. Louisiana and South Carolina saw rises in 2004 and have not yet reported on 2005. [...] […] I mentioned this in the last post – in an article to be published in tomorrow’s New York Times, Erik Eckholm writes that infant mortality rates in some of the southern states are going up. To the shock of Mississippi officials, who in 2004 had seen the infant mortality rate — defined as deaths by the age of 1 year per thousand live births — fall to 9.7, the rate jumped sharply in 2005, to 11.4. The national average in 2003, the last year for which data have been compiled, was 6.9. Smaller rises also occurred in 2005 in Alabama, North Carolina and Tennessee. Louisiana and South Carolina saw rises in 2004 and have not yet reported on 2005. […]

]]> by: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/#comment-204322 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:38:11 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/#comment-204322 Very informative post,Maha, I have to plead guilty to being one of those unfortunates who through lack of knowledge were suckered in to accepting the term partial birth abortion on its face value. I had read once that so long as the fetus was aborted before it exited the birth canal by natural means that it was fair game for abortion. No doubt that now I understand the deception in terminology.. similar to deceptional language used for enhanced interrogations, pacification, a surge, or a host of other terms that aren't really what they are in actuality. Intelligent design? I guess that at the moment of conception it could said by the stretching of logic that a baby is "partially" born. Very informative post,Maha, I have to plead guilty to being one of those unfortunates who through lack of knowledge were suckered in to accepting the term partial birth abortion on its face value. I had read once that so long as the fetus was aborted before it exited the birth canal by natural means that it was fair game for abortion. No doubt that now I understand the deception in terminology.. similar to deceptional language used for enhanced interrogations, pacification, a surge, or a host of other terms that aren’t really what they are in actuality. Intelligent design?

I guess that at the moment of conception it could said by the stretching of logic that a baby is “partially” born.

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/#comment-204132 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:20:46 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/#comment-204132 It strikes me that the "right to life" leaders have deceived their own followers. Lots of people sincerely believe that "late term" abortions are now banned. They aren't any more banned than they were before. It strikes me that the “right to life” leaders have deceived their own followers. Lots of people sincerely believe that “late term” abortions are now banned. They aren’t any more banned than they were before.

]]> by: biggerbox http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/#comment-204108 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:56:30 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/21/more-late-term-confusion/#comment-204108 The confusion over terminology is one of the key strategies of those you call the Fetus People. That's seen in that remarkable quote from National Right to Life about the pseudo-medical jargon terms. Are lawyers and Congressmen performing the procedure, and therefore they get to define the terms? Normally, we rely on experts in each field to precisely define the meaning of their own jargon, but of course that doesn't server Right to Life's agenda. Getting a law passed that gave their made-up, otherwise meaningless phrase some kind of appearance of standing was a major victory for them, and I really applaud your effort to combat the confusion they've sewn with actual facts, and terms that have meaning. If they were against helicopters, they'd be declaring that the proper term is "spinny decapitating thing on top", and lambasting those who used the pseudo-aeronautical term "rotor". The confusion over terminology is one of the key strategies of those you call the Fetus People. That’s seen in that remarkable quote from National Right to Life about the pseudo-medical jargon terms. Are lawyers and Congressmen performing the procedure, and therefore they get to define the terms? Normally, we rely on experts in each field to precisely define the meaning of their own jargon, but of course that doesn’t server Right to Life’s agenda.

Getting a law passed that gave their made-up, otherwise meaningless phrase some kind of appearance of standing was a major victory for them, and I really applaud your effort to combat the confusion they’ve sewn with actual facts, and terms that have meaning.

If they were against helicopters, they’d be declaring that the proper term is “spinny decapitating thing on top”, and lambasting those who used the pseudo-aeronautical term “rotor”.

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