Comments on: Give Up

by: maha

Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:03:42 +0000

Steve — Well, don’t blame New York. New York gets it guns from Virginia.

If you find links to articles about gun running into Canada, do alert me to ‘em, OK?

by: Steve from Canuckistan

Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:21:45 +0000

A lot of Canadians wish the US would “secure the borders” too and put a stop to all the illegal firearms smuggling into Ontario from New York state. I wonder if Lou Dobbs will get on that story?

by: joanr16

Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:16:09 +0000

Anybody who suggests “border fence” has the whiff of the East German Stasi about them, IMO. Run away from those people. Run fast, run far. At least until you hit their almighty “fence.”

by: maha

Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:18:23 +0000

The trouble is that there is no will to do it.

A whole lot of employers are making bigger profits because they hire illegal aliens off the books. Some of those employers are federal contractors. Some of those employers have connections to politicians in Washington. So even if Congress decides to build the bleeping fence, the fence will be a purely symbolic gesture meant to placate the right-wing base. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the contractors use some illegal labor to build it.

by: Swami

Sun, 17 Jun 2007 03:24:41 +0000

Hey, if they hurried and pass legislation to erect a fence..Home Depot is running a special on pressure treated stockade fencing. $ 9.95 for an 8×6 section.. and the 4×4 posts are less than $5.00 a piece..at that price we could fence from Baja California to the eastern side of Texas for less than 20 Billion dollars. What a deal, they better hurry!

by: MikeShatzkin

Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:30:53 +0000

Sorry Greg, a border fence could not “work”, unless your concept of “adequate support” is something far beyond anything we could reasonably undertake. (Sure if you stationed an armed guard every five feet for 1500 miles of border 24 hours a day, that would do it. Work out the logistics on that sometime…)

The “will” required is related to the “threat” and to how this “will” wouild be applied. Look, if we simply machine-gunned a strip of land extending in five miles from the border 24 hours a day, that would probably do it. How do you like that idea? How many people do you think you could get to support it?

This whole argument is ridiculous and a diversion from doing anything constructive. We will not “stop them at the border.” Nobody has ever made any proposal that would work; people only say that with enough will, etc., surely we can make it work. A fence is not a plan. It’s a boondoggle.

by: Swami

Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:16:27 +0000

A border fence could work, but not without adequate support of it.

Not hardly.. It’s insanity to even consider it. Maybe if we formed a human chain around the entire perimeter of the continental United States and manned it around the clock, we might possibly reduce illegal immigration to a small degree,but it just won’t work. At best, it’s just another scheme to piss money away on nonsense, and appease stupid people.. And even more than that…it would stand as a monument to stupidity and impotence.

by: Greg

Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:23:24 +0000

A border fence could work, but not without adequate support of it. The same could be said of any system, including the current one. If there is a will to stop illegal immigration, then there is a way to do it. The trouble is that there is no will to do it.

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by: c u n d gulag

Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:28:54 +0000

LOL - flouridated water!!!
Remember their hatred of rock & roll and hula-hoop’s, back in the day?
You’re on to something here Maha. Now we need to find a few stupid and trivial issues for them to sink their teeth into. Because once they do, they hold on to them like a pit bull on a femur.
Any idea’s anyone? To the rightie post’s everyone. There’s bound to be some little piss-issue some troll is typing about with his cheeto-stained finger’s in mommy’s basement.
I c… I can do this. I can… LGF, here I come!

Aaaack! I can’t do it. I visited there once before and am scarred for life. I’d rather stick my private part’s in a blender and frappe them than go there again.
We need a brave scout or two to infiltrate. Anyone who goes is far, far braver than I am…