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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: Cheney Claims VP&#8217;s Office Not in Executive Branch (Updated) &#171; Mick Arran</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-246216</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] * The Mahablog&amp;#8217;s Barbara O&amp;#8217;Brien tries giving Cheney a 6th-grade-level lesson in Civics, but I&amp;#8217;m not too sure but what even that is over his head.Dick: There are three branches of government. Those are the executive, the legislative, and the judicial. The Constitution puts the Vice President’s office in the executive branch. If you aren’t part the executive branch, then what branch do you think you are in? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] * The Mahablog&#8217;s Barbara O&#8217;Brien tries giving Cheney a 6th-grade-level lesson in Civics, but I&#8217;m not too sure but what even that is over his head.Dick: There are three branches of government. Those are the executive, the legislative, and the judicial. The Constitution puts the Vice President’s office in the executive branch. If you aren’t part the executive branch, then what branch do you think you are in? [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: biggerbox</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-246012</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-246012</guid>
					<description>White House spokesdroid Dana Perino does her job carrying the &quot;gosh, lookee at the interesting and complicated legal question&quot; dodge forward for another press cycle.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003509.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>White House spokesdroid Dana Perino does her job carrying the &#8220;gosh, lookee at the interesting and complicated legal question&#8221; dodge forward for another press cycle.</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003509.php' rel='nofollow'>http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003509.php</a>
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		<title>by: Maiden</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-245933</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-245933</guid>
					<description>Thanks, Maha.  Hope you know, though, it wasn't a demand; just an invitation.  Take care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks, Maha.  Hope you know, though, it wasn&#8217;t a demand; just an invitation.  Take care!
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-245932</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-245932</guid>
					<description>Maiden: I don't do on-demand blogging. I've already got more stuff in my head to blog about than I will ever have time to write and post. Briefly:

For a definition, this is from a dictionary: &quot;Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.&quot; I would add psychological pain as well, such as by means of sensory deprivation or isolation. 

Yes, it is immoral. One could make a &quot;greater good&quot; argument -- that torture is not immoral if it saves other people -- but all objective evidence I know about shows that information obtained by torture is nearly always wrong. 

People torture other people because they want to. They are gratified by it. That's sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maiden: I don&#8217;t do on-demand blogging. I&#8217;ve already got more stuff in my head to blog about than I will ever have time to write and post. Briefly:</p>
	<p>For a definition, this is from a dictionary: &#8220;Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.&#8221; I would add psychological pain as well, such as by means of sensory deprivation or isolation. </p>
	<p>Yes, it is immoral. One could make a &#8220;greater good&#8221; argument &#8212; that torture is not immoral if it saves other people &#8212; but all objective evidence I know about shows that information obtained by torture is nearly always wrong. </p>
	<p>People torture other people because they want to. They are gratified by it. That&#8217;s sick.
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		<title>by: Maiden</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-245914</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-245914</guid>
					<description>Dear Mahablog--

While you're waiting on a response from Dick, maybe you'd consider posting your thoughts on this:

&quot;What is torture, and is it necessarily immoral?&quot;

I'm asking this of bloggers across the country, and will link to all their responses.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dear Mahablog&#8211;</p>
	<p>While you&#8217;re waiting on a response from Dick, maybe you&#8217;d consider posting your thoughts on this:</p>
	<p>&#8220;What is torture, and is it necessarily immoral?&#8221;</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m asking this of bloggers across the country, and will link to all their responses.</p>
	<p>Thanks!
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		<title>by: c u n d gulag</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-245178</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-245178</guid>
					<description>This Dick needs to be neutered.
There has never, in the history of this country, been a clearer case for impeachment of both executives and their follower’s.
Li’l Caligula and Darth Vader need to be impeached, impounded and imprisoned for War Crimes.  Today!
Congress has a 14% approval rating because they stand idly by while the “New Rome” burns.
Nancy, take the gloves off!  Democrat’s, please get to work and start the impeachment process.  Stop being afraid!  We may not live to see the next national election cycle.  That day may not come.  The Unitary Chimp may decide that he is too indispensable in a time of War, and that we can’t have elections.  They'll divide the country, don't you know...  
The only thing we have to fear, is your fear of electability.  Grow some balls!!!
Who worries about ’08?  Not me.  There will be over a million dead in Iraq – 4,000 to 5,000 of them our troops.  Iran may be a smoldering nuclear mess.  Russia and China may be ready to nuke our rogue-state ass, and you worry about the election in 16 1/2 month’s? 
Why aren’t we massing in the streets?  Oh yeah, “Bread and Circus’.”   In our current lingo, that’s McDonald’s and “American Idol.”  Maybe that should read, &quot;American's Idle.&quot;
What ever happened to this country?  When did we decide to go from USA to USSR?

Maha,
I'm sorry that I'm all over the place on this post.  But, I'm pissed.  We need action!!!  NOW!!!!!!!!!

PS:  Here’s a t-shirt idea:  “Bush and Dick: No Wonder We’re Fucked!!!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This Dick needs to be neutered.<br />
There has never, in the history of this country, been a clearer case for impeachment of both executives and their follower’s.<br />
Li’l Caligula and Darth Vader need to be impeached, impounded and imprisoned for War Crimes.  Today!<br />
Congress has a 14% approval rating because they stand idly by while the “New Rome” burns.<br />
Nancy, take the gloves off!  Democrat’s, please get to work and start the impeachment process.  Stop being afraid!  We may not live to see the next national election cycle.  That day may not come.  The Unitary Chimp may decide that he is too indispensable in a time of War, and that we can’t have elections.  They&#8217;ll divide the country, don&#8217;t you know&#8230;<br />
The only thing we have to fear, is your fear of electability.  Grow some balls!!!<br />
Who worries about ’08?  Not me.  There will be over a million dead in Iraq – 4,000 to 5,000 of them our troops.  Iran may be a smoldering nuclear mess.  Russia and China may be ready to nuke our rogue-state ass, and you worry about the election in 16 1/2 month’s?<br />
Why aren’t we massing in the streets?  Oh yeah, “Bread and Circus’.”   In our current lingo, that’s McDonald’s and “American Idol.”  Maybe that should read, &#8220;American&#8217;s Idle.&#8221;<br />
What ever happened to this country?  When did we decide to go from USA to USSR?</p>
	<p>Maha,<br />
I&#8217;m sorry that I&#8217;m all over the place on this post.  But, I&#8217;m pissed.  We need action!!!  NOW!!!!!!!!!</p>
	<p>PS:  Here’s a t-shirt idea:  “Bush and Dick: No Wonder We’re Fucked!!!”
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		<title>by: uncledad</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-244567</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Not to be confused with &quot;hillbilly haiku&quot; which allows as many words and sentences as need be:

As the bombs rain down in Israel,
They see the moon.
As the smoke clears in Lebanon, 
They see it too.
As the leaders decide a way
Many mothers lose their child
As our leaders meet and drink
Many more civilians die.
As the bombs rain down on Lebanon,
They see the Moon.
As the smoke clears in Israel,
They see it too.
As the leaders decide a way
Many mothers lose their child
As our leaders meet and drink
How many more civilians die?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Not to be confused with &#8220;hillbilly haiku&#8221; which allows as many words and sentences as need be:</p>
	<p>As the bombs rain down in Israel,<br />
They see the moon.<br />
As the smoke clears in Lebanon,<br />
They see it too.<br />
As the leaders decide a way<br />
Many mothers lose their child<br />
As our leaders meet and drink<br />
Many more civilians die.<br />
As the bombs rain down on Lebanon,<br />
They see the Moon.<br />
As the smoke clears in Israel,<br />
They see it too.<br />
As the leaders decide a way<br />
Many mothers lose their child<br />
As our leaders meet and drink<br />
How many more civilians die?
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		<title>by: uncledad</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-244564</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-244564</guid>
					<description>&quot;I want to resign the lot of them&quot;

I hope you don't mean Waxmen as well. Although I don't think he's done too good of a job. Nothing but &quot;political theater&quot;, I say its time for some real political courtroom stuff. What with all the illegal government goings-on, no real convictions to date. My fear is that we are being fooled over so much, that at some point we will not recognize our democracy anymore. We will be more concerned about process, and not about progress. At some point we may fall into Haiku:

Process, wakes me up

Progress, remind me we are here

Politics put me to sleep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I want to resign the lot of them&#8221;</p>
	<p>I hope you don&#8217;t mean Waxmen as well. Although I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s done too good of a job. Nothing but &#8220;political theater&#8221;, I say its time for some real political courtroom stuff. What with all the illegal government goings-on, no real convictions to date. My fear is that we are being fooled over so much, that at some point we will not recognize our democracy anymore. We will be more concerned about process, and not about progress. At some point we may fall into Haiku:</p>
	<p>Process, wakes me up</p>
	<p>Progress, remind me we are here</p>
	<p>Politics put me to sleep
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		<title>by: Cheney says, I&#8217;m my own Branch &#171; Exposing The Neo-Right</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-244563</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 06:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-244563</guid>
					<description>[...] Other Bloggers:Balloon Juice, Threat Level, Thought Theater, Sisyphus Shrugged, Blast Off!, Liberty Street, Secrecy News, Shakesville, The Mahablog, War and Piece, Donklephant, All Spin Zone, On Deadline, Obsidian Wings, Macsmind, Cliff Schecter, Salon, Hullabaloo, The Moderate Voice and The American Street, Scholars and Rogues, The Democratic Daily, PoliBlog (TM), The Agonist, Truthdig, AMERICAblog and TIME: Swampland, A Spork in the Drawer, Associated Press, Crooks and Liars, Think Progress, The Carpetbagger Report, Washington Monthly, Democratic Underground …, SteveAudio and The Huffington Post, Balkinization and Done With Mirrors [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] Other Bloggers:Balloon Juice, Threat Level, Thought Theater, Sisyphus Shrugged, Blast Off!, Liberty Street, Secrecy News, Shakesville, The Mahablog, War and Piece, Donklephant, All Spin Zone, On Deadline, Obsidian Wings, Macsmind, Cliff Schecter, Salon, Hullabaloo, The Moderate Voice and The American Street, Scholars and Rogues, The Democratic Daily, PoliBlog &#8482;, The Agonist, Truthdig, AMERICAblog and TIME: Swampland, A Spork in the Drawer, Associated Press, Crooks and Liars, Think Progress, The Carpetbagger Report, Washington Monthly, Democratic Underground …, SteveAudio and The Huffington Post, Balkinization and Done With Mirrors [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: paradoctor</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/21/then-what-the-hell-is-it/#comment-244557</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>He's not in the Executive branch, because he's not in the legitimate government, because he is in fact running a criminal conspiracy, under cover of law. We've known this all along, but it's good to hear him indirectly admit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>He&#8217;s not in the Executive branch, because he&#8217;s not in the legitimate government, because he is in fact running a criminal conspiracy, under cover of law. We&#8217;ve known this all along, but it&#8217;s good to hear him indirectly admit it.
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