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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: The Mahablog &#187; No Mistake</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-250373</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] This is a follow up to the last post, in which I argue that it is the duty of a patriot to speak up about the wrongdoing of his own country. This is called &amp;#8220;taking responsibility.&amp;#8221; Non-patriots (like Michelle Malkin) confuse responsibility with disloyalty and scream that we liberals hate America because we point to Abu Ghraib before we point to atrocities committed by other nations. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] This is a follow up to the last post, in which I argue that it is the duty of a patriot to speak up about the wrongdoing of his own country. This is called &#8220;taking responsibility.&#8221; Non-patriots (like Michelle Malkin) confuse responsibility with disloyalty and scream that we liberals hate America because we point to Abu Ghraib before we point to atrocities committed by other nations. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-249086</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here is a good article that sums a lot of things up very well:

http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=11181</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here is a good article that sums a lot of things up very well:</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=11181' rel='nofollow'>http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=11181</a>
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		<title>by: SPIIDERWEB™</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-249081</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>At first I couldn't understand your ire with Lulu, but then I re-read her words and saw &quot;manufactured&quot;.

You're right again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>At first I couldn&#8217;t understand your ire with Lulu, but then I re-read her words and saw &#8220;manufactured&#8221;.</p>
	<p>You&#8217;re right again.
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		<title>by: biggerbox</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-248840</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm afraid I can't even imagine what parallel Malkin draws between the two sets of photographs that would lead to that expectation. Iran acting like brutal, inhuman thugs on camera is not news. America acting like brutal, inhuman thugs on camera WAS news. Isn't that obvious?

I guess Lulu lives in a world where there is a huge movement of &quot;Iranian apologists&quot; she must fight. I've never met any, or read any, unless you consider thinking that it is 'apologist' to suggest that bombing Iran might not be a smart approach. 

What, I wonder, did Rosie say about Iran, if anything? Not being in the habit of getting my foreign policy advice from minor comics formerly on daytime TV shows, I missed it entirely. 

Do you suppose it will ever dawn on the right that they care a lot more about what TV and movie people think about policy than actual people on the left do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t even imagine what parallel Malkin draws between the two sets of photographs that would lead to that expectation. Iran acting like brutal, inhuman thugs on camera is not news. America acting like brutal, inhuman thugs on camera WAS news. Isn&#8217;t that obvious?</p>
	<p>I guess Lulu lives in a world where there is a huge movement of &#8220;Iranian apologists&#8221; she must fight. I&#8217;ve never met any, or read any, unless you consider thinking that it is &#8216;apologist&#8217; to suggest that bombing Iran might not be a smart approach. </p>
	<p>What, I wonder, did Rosie say about Iran, if anything? Not being in the habit of getting my foreign policy advice from minor comics formerly on daytime TV shows, I missed it entirely. </p>
	<p>Do you suppose it will ever dawn on the right that they care a lot more about what TV and movie people think about policy than actual people on the left do?
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		<title>by: Donnie McDaniel</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-248792</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The people on the right are getting more wingnuttier by the day. I have had to prove my prior service in the Marines more than once. The most common thing they do is just come out and rebuke you if you have something patriotic to say. Then when the proof is shown, they backoff and they give a little &quot;I'm sorry for using the word alleged&quot; and never once show any guilt for actually questioning your service or patriotism. Very tacky, but just as common.

That is what I see in Malkin. The typical rightie that just rolls over and goes on to the next faux outrage even after being proven wrong. People like her and Dan Reihl can really test your gag reflex to the max! They just don't want to understand that as a patriot, my job is to clean up my own back yard. It's kinda hard to point at someone else and declare their yard to be trashy for the old clunker there if yours looks like an exploded garage sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The people on the right are getting more wingnuttier by the day. I have had to prove my prior service in the Marines more than once. The most common thing they do is just come out and rebuke you if you have something patriotic to say. Then when the proof is shown, they backoff and they give a little &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry for using the word alleged&#8221; and never once show any guilt for actually questioning your service or patriotism. Very tacky, but just as common.</p>
	<p>That is what I see in Malkin. The typical rightie that just rolls over and goes on to the next faux outrage even after being proven wrong. People like her and Dan Reihl can really test your gag reflex to the max! They just don&#8217;t want to understand that as a patriot, my job is to clean up my own back yard. It&#8217;s kinda hard to point at someone else and declare their yard to be trashy for the old clunker there if yours looks like an exploded garage sale.
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		<title>by: c u n d gulag</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-248568</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oooop's!!!!  Sorry about that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oooop&#8217;s!!!!  Sorry about that&#8230;
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		<title>by: c u n d gulag</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-248555</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sadly, I had a great laugh today...
On CNN, Wolf was asking the Vietnamese Prime Minister about &quot;Human Right's&quot; abuses, that our President said they were guilty of.

This is why I'm not a a  politician, or a diplomat:  I would have laughed right in his face!!!
&quot;Our abuses's?   Our ABUSES'S?!?&quot;  What about your's, Mr. President Bush?
How dare you lecture us, when you keep stocking Guantanomo Bay?&quot;
YOU, are a PIG!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sadly, I had a great laugh today&#8230;<br />
On CNN, Wolf was asking the Vietnamese Prime Minister about &#8220;Human Right&#8217;s&#8221; abuses, that our President said they were guilty of.</p>
	<p>This is why I&#8217;m not a a  politician, or a diplomat:  I would have laughed right in his face!!!<br />
&#8220;Our abuses&#8217;s?   Our ABUSES&#8217;S?!?&#8221;  What about your&#8217;s, Mr. President Bush?<br />
How dare you lecture us, when you keep stocking Guantanomo Bay?&#8221;<br />
YOU, are a PIG!!!
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		<title>by: c u n d gulag</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-248552</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sadly, I had a great laugh today...
On CNN, Wolf was asking the Vietnamese Prime Minister about &quot;Human Right's&quot; abuses, that our President said they were guilty of.

This is why I'm not a a  politician, or a diplomat:  I would have laughed right in his face!!!
&quot;Our abuses's?   Our ABUSES'S?!?&quot;  What about your's, Mr. President Bush?
How dare you lecture us, when you keep stocking Guantanomo Bay?&quot;
YOU are a PIG!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sadly, I had a great laugh today&#8230;<br />
On CNN, Wolf was asking the Vietnamese Prime Minister about &#8220;Human Right&#8217;s&#8221; abuses, that our President said they were guilty of.</p>
	<p>This is why I&#8217;m not a a  politician, or a diplomat:  I would have laughed right in his face!!!<br />
&#8220;Our abuses&#8217;s?   Our ABUSES&#8217;S?!?&#8221;  What about your&#8217;s, Mr. President Bush?<br />
How dare you lecture us, when you keep stocking Guantanomo Bay?&#8221;<br />
YOU are a PIG!!!
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		<title>by: Jackson Lichtenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-248329</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is a little off the topic but I just had this thought.
What would happen if we all performed an actual &quot;Surge For Peace&quot; at a synchronized moment, 
say, midnight on the 4th of July for example, wherein everyone opposed to the war would simply
turn on all of their power at home? 
I often wonder if it really is true that a majority of citizens actually care about ending the
war and I think this might be an easy way to find out for sure. I mean, would it be enough to 
cause problems with the power grid? I don't really know, but it seems to me that if very many 
people did it at the same time it could really wreak havoc and provide us all with a great way
of knowing instantly just how powerful we can be if we work together! 
I imagine the Surge For Peace as a wave that would start in all of the large cities of the far
east and slowly make its way, hour by hour, around the globe. Midnight would be a good time 
because power use is typically low at night and the surge would thus be more noticeable, but 
it's not so late that it would be too difficult for people to stay awake. Perhaps the best 
thing about the Surge For Peace is that we can do it from our own homes but it would be almost
as effective as if we all went to Washington DC and marched on the Capitol! 
Just be careful not to turn on too much power and trip the breakers in your own house because 
that would completely defeat the whole purpose. Maybe just turn on all of the lights and the 
microwave, plus a blow dryer and the entertainment system? Or whatever, you know what I mean. 
Is the internet truly powerful enough to spread a message like this around the world? 
I think if the Surge For Peace could work it would really feel like a revolution! 
Or, would a power surge of that size speed up global warming too much to make it worth while? 
Aw shucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is a little off the topic but I just had this thought.<br />
What would happen if we all performed an actual &#8220;Surge For Peace&#8221; at a synchronized moment,<br />
say, midnight on the 4th of July for example, wherein everyone opposed to the war would simply<br />
turn on all of their power at home?<br />
I often wonder if it really is true that a majority of citizens actually care about ending the<br />
war and I think this might be an easy way to find out for sure. I mean, would it be enough to<br />
cause problems with the power grid? I don&#8217;t really know, but it seems to me that if very many<br />
people did it at the same time it could really wreak havoc and provide us all with a great way<br />
of knowing instantly just how powerful we can be if we work together!<br />
I imagine the Surge For Peace as a wave that would start in all of the large cities of the far<br />
east and slowly make its way, hour by hour, around the globe. Midnight would be a good time<br />
because power use is typically low at night and the surge would thus be more noticeable, but<br />
it&#8217;s not so late that it would be too difficult for people to stay awake. Perhaps the best<br />
thing about the Surge For Peace is that we can do it from our own homes but it would be almost<br />
as effective as if we all went to Washington DC and marched on the Capitol!<br />
Just be careful not to turn on too much power and trip the breakers in your own house because<br />
that would completely defeat the whole purpose. Maybe just turn on all of the lights and the<br />
microwave, plus a blow dryer and the entertainment system? Or whatever, you know what I mean.<br />
Is the internet truly powerful enough to spread a message like this around the world?<br />
I think if the Surge For Peace could work it would really feel like a revolution!<br />
Or, would a power surge of that size speed up global warming too much to make it worth while?<br />
Aw shucks.
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		<title>by: moonbat</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/24/responsibility-2/#comment-248221</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;...I’ve been having this conversation with wingnuts since the late 1960s. It flies right over their pointy little heads every time. 
&lt;/i&gt;

I don't go that far back, but nonetheless, this conversation is getting &lt;b&gt;mighty&lt;/b&gt; tedious. I'd like to move. Life is way too short to waste it around idiots who refuse to learn. And who are actively working to take all of us down with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8230;I’ve been having this conversation with wingnuts since the late 1960s. It flies right over their pointy little heads every time.<br />
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	<p>I don&#8217;t go that far back, but nonetheless, this conversation is getting <b>mighty</b> tedious. I&#8217;d like to move. Life is way too short to waste it around idiots who refuse to learn. And who are actively working to take all of us down with them.
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