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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: derek</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-255800</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If Amy Holmes thinks that because she's young and healthy, the insurance premium she is spending on private health care is not worth it, then the premium is too high, either because: 

a) the insurance process is extremely inefficient, or: 

b) insurers are taking her for a sucker. 

I'm sure she's right on at least one count, if not both, but how could either of those things be a &lt;i&gt;defence&lt;/i&gt; of private health insurance? Please feel free never to defend me, that's all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If Amy Holmes thinks that because she&#8217;s young and healthy, the insurance premium she is spending on private health care is not worth it, then the premium is too high, either because: </p>
	<p>a) the insurance process is extremely inefficient, or: </p>
	<p>b) insurers are taking her for a sucker. </p>
	<p>I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;s right on at least one count, if not both, but how could either of those things be a <i>defence</i> of private health insurance? Please feel free never to defend me, that&#8217;s all.
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		<title>by: Avedon</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-255577</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's my understanding that Americans not only spend plenty of time waiting for their insurance companies to okay treatment, but they have vital treatment refused all the time.

I don't have to think about whether I'm eligible; I am.  I don't have to wonder whether they will schedule treatment in reasonable time; they will.  I don't have to ask whether it will be covered; it is.

I've never had any reason to feel that I got better healthcare when I lived in America than I get here in Britain.  But &lt;i&gt;damn&lt;/i&gt; is it a relief to not have to think about what it's going to cost me to see a doctor or spend a couple of nights in a hospital.  If I need to see the doc, I just go.  If I need treatment, I just go.  That's it.  There's no bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s my understanding that Americans not only spend plenty of time waiting for their insurance companies to okay treatment, but they have vital treatment refused all the time.</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t have to think about whether I&#8217;m eligible; I am.  I don&#8217;t have to wonder whether they will schedule treatment in reasonable time; they will.  I don&#8217;t have to ask whether it will be covered; it is.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve never had any reason to feel that I got better healthcare when I lived in America than I get here in Britain.  But <i>damn</i> is it a relief to not have to think about what it&#8217;s going to cost me to see a doctor or spend a couple of nights in a hospital.  If I need to see the doc, I just go.  If I need treatment, I just go.  That&#8217;s it.  There&#8217;s no bill.
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		<title>by: khughes1963</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-255511</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This ties in with a book I just finished-Sick, Jonathan Cohn's new book about how our dysfunctional health insurance system is causing real problems for real people. Unfortunately, no one will think it's a problem until too many people are without insurance, or until it happens to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This ties in with a book I just finished-Sick, Jonathan Cohn&#8217;s new book about how our dysfunctional health insurance system is causing real problems for real people. Unfortunately, no one will think it&#8217;s a problem until too many people are without insurance, or until it happens to them.
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		<title>by: dr. luba</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-255111</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If the Canadians spent as much for healthcare as we do--they currently spend only half as much per capita--I'm sure all the wait lists would go away. 

What's our excuse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If the Canadians spent as much for healthcare as we do&#8211;they currently spend only half as much per capita&#8211;I&#8217;m sure all the wait lists would go away. </p>
	<p>What&#8217;s our excuse?
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		<title>by: biggerbox</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-255098</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Amy the tool said she was going to see her doctor soon, hinting that she hadn't been feeling well. Let's hope it's not the pneumonia she mentioned, or worse a lymphoma like the one I had when I was younger than she is. A hospitalization would quickly make her rethink the idea of having insurance. Of course, she'll never be able to get coverage once she's sick, because of her &quot;pre-existing condition.&quot;

(BTW, since I don't normally watch it, is that Paula Zahn thing supposed to be some kind of news show? I couldn't figure out if I was watching a policy debate or Entertainment Tonight.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Amy the tool said she was going to see her doctor soon, hinting that she hadn&#8217;t been feeling well. Let&#8217;s hope it&#8217;s not the pneumonia she mentioned, or worse a lymphoma like the one I had when I was younger than she is. A hospitalization would quickly make her rethink the idea of having insurance. Of course, she&#8217;ll never be able to get coverage once she&#8217;s sick, because of her &#8220;pre-existing condition.&#8221;</p>
	<p>(BTW, since I don&#8217;t normally watch it, is that Paula Zahn thing supposed to be some kind of news show? I couldn&#8217;t figure out if I was watching a policy debate or Entertainment Tonight.)
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		<title>by: QrazyQat</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-255049</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Again, personal anecdotes:

Girlfriend's son needed hernia surgery, got into specialty clinic in Toronto within 6 weeks, no problem, no cost.

My mom was to undergo knee surgery last year, earliest time for her to get in was 3 months, unless she wanted her choice of surgeon in which case it was 7 months.  Cost: it's the USA, you figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Again, personal anecdotes:</p>
	<p>Girlfriend&#8217;s son needed hernia surgery, got into specialty clinic in Toronto within 6 weeks, no problem, no cost.</p>
	<p>My mom was to undergo knee surgery last year, earliest time for her to get in was 3 months, unless she wanted her choice of surgeon in which case it was 7 months.  Cost: it&#8217;s the USA, you figure it out.
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-254975</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Maha, you pay $700 dollars a month for insurance!!!!!! &lt;/i&gt;

And that just covers me. That's not a family plan. Private insurance is cheaper in other states, but in those other states the insurance companies have more discretion to refuse to cover people. If they can dump out clients who are really sick, the insurance companies do save money. But it sort of defeats the purpose of health insurance.

&lt;i&gt;If I could compare my income, family status and taxation levels to those of an American, by virtue of the fact that my taxes include health care, I’m sure that financially I would come out way ahead of my U.S. equivalent. &lt;/i&gt;

Oh, I'm sure you would. I have no doubt. That's a point that's hard to drive home here, though. People who get health insurance through employment aren't paying as much out directly as health insurance, but the cost gets taken out of their pockets in other ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Maha, you pay $700 dollars a month for insurance!!!!!! </i></p>
	<p>And that just covers me. That&#8217;s not a family plan. Private insurance is cheaper in other states, but in those other states the insurance companies have more discretion to refuse to cover people. If they can dump out clients who are really sick, the insurance companies do save money. But it sort of defeats the purpose of health insurance.</p>
	<p><i>If I could compare my income, family status and taxation levels to those of an American, by virtue of the fact that my taxes include health care, I’m sure that financially I would come out way ahead of my U.S. equivalent. </i></p>
	<p>Oh, I&#8217;m sure you would. I have no doubt. That&#8217;s a point that&#8217;s hard to drive home here, though. People who get health insurance through employment aren&#8217;t paying as much out directly as health insurance, but the cost gets taken out of their pockets in other ways.
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-254962</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;If you need surgery to prevent you from dying, it’s not “elective” surgery.&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly. My understanding is that if a Canadian is in real danger they fast track him into surgery about as quickly as they do here. And it is not necessarily all that quick here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>If you need surgery to prevent you from dying, it’s not “elective” surgery.</i></p>
	<p>Exactly. My understanding is that if a Canadian is in real danger they fast track him into surgery about as quickly as they do here. And it is not necessarily all that quick here.
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		<title>by: grayslady</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-254955</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Update on Ms. Amy Holmes: she was a former speech writer for Dr./Senator Bill Frist and currently bills herself as a &quot;Republican strategist&quot;. Hmmm... Do you think Frist favors universal health care? Wonder if they ever discussed it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Update on Ms. Amy Holmes: she was a former speech writer for Dr./Senator Bill Frist and currently bills herself as a &#8220;Republican strategist&#8221;. Hmmm&#8230; Do you think Frist favors universal health care? Wonder if they ever discussed it?
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		<title>by: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/06/27/more-sicko/#comment-254918</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If you need surgery to prevent you from dying, it's not &quot;elective&quot; surgery.

Ms. Amy wants a tax credit, not a deduction. She wants the gov't to pay for her insurance directly (and regressively). Basically single-payer for rich people. I'm sure she's similarly selective in what regulations to do away with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you need surgery to prevent you from dying, it&#8217;s not &#8220;elective&#8221; surgery.</p>
	<p>Ms. Amy wants a tax credit, not a deduction. She wants the gov&#8217;t to pay for her insurance directly (and regressively). Basically single-payer for rich people. I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;s similarly selective in what regulations to do away with.
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