Comments on: The War on Science http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/the-war-on-science/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:20:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: moonbat http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/the-war-on-science/#comment-271875 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:10:56 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/the-war-on-science/#comment-271875 I saw some additional information on this today (of course I don't remember the site), but the argument was put forth that Muslim creationists are actually more advanced than our <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism" rel="nofollow">young earth creationists</a> because the Muslim creation story is more vague. Their creationists are more like our <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Earth_creationism" rel="nofollow">old earth creationists</a>, which in turn are more like mainstream science. I saw some additional information on this today (of course I don’t remember the site), but the argument was put forth that Muslim creationists are actually more advanced than our young earth creationists because the Muslim creation story is more vague. Their creationists are more like our old earth creationists, which in turn are more like mainstream science.

]]> by: wmr http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/the-war-on-science/#comment-271804 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:57:17 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/the-war-on-science/#comment-271804 Pervez Amirali Hoodbhoy has a slightly different version of Islamic history in this article <a href="http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_60/iss_8/49_1.shtml" rel="nofollow">Science and the Islamic world—The quest for rapprochemen</a> (h/t <a href="http://www.aldaily.com/" rel="nofollow">Arts and Letters Daily</a>). Before 1000CE, Islam had its own version of the battle between reason and dogma: <i>Politics was dominated by the rationalist Mutazilites, who sought to combine faith and reason in opposition to their rivals, the dogmatic Asharites. A generally tolerant and pluralistic Islamic culture allowed Muslims, Christians, and Jews to create new works of art and science together. But over time, the theological tensions between liberal and fundamentalist interpretations of Islam—such as on the issue of free will versus predestination—became intense and turned bloody. A resurgent religious orthodoxy eventually inflicted a crushing defeat on the Mutazilites. Thereafter, the open-minded pursuits of philosophy, mathematics, and science were increasingly relegated to the margins of Islam.</i> Pervez Amirali Hoodbhoy has a slightly different version of Islamic history in this article Science and the Islamic world—The quest for rapprochemen (h/t Arts and Letters Daily).

Before 1000CE, Islam had its own version of the battle between reason and dogma: Politics was dominated by the rationalist Mutazilites, who sought to combine faith and reason in opposition to their rivals, the dogmatic Asharites. A generally tolerant and pluralistic Islamic culture allowed Muslims, Christians, and Jews to create new works of art and science together. But over time, the theological tensions between liberal and fundamentalist interpretations of Islam—such as on the issue of free will versus predestination—became intense and turned bloody. A resurgent religious orthodoxy eventually inflicted a crushing defeat on the Mutazilites. Thereafter, the open-minded pursuits of philosophy, mathematics, and science were increasingly relegated to the margins of Islam.

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