Comments on: They Are Us http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:23:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: We Are The 801 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-273085 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:07:40 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-273085 Oh and we know all those folks in Gitmo are terrorists right? *sigh* Oh and we know all those folks in Gitmo are terrorists right? *sigh*

]]> by: USpace http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272829 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:34:24 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272829 Poor little Taliban wannabe, he deserves a break, send him to Gitmo for 4 years to make up for his solitary confinement... absurd thought - God of the Universe says forgive terrorists let them out of prison to resume their killing absurd thought - God of the Universe loves terrorists in prison treat them like kings in cages great food and Al Jazeera . Poor little Taliban wannabe, he deserves a break, send him to Gitmo for 4 years to make up for his solitary confinement…

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
forgive terrorists

let them out of prison
to resume their killing

absurd thought -
God of the Universe loves
terrorists in prison

treat them like kings in cages
great food and Al Jazeera
.

]]> by: The Mahablog » Al Qaeda’s Useful Idiots http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272785 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:28:35 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272785 [...] In the last post I wrote that Padilla had been subjected to nearly four years of torture. Some rightie commenters questioned that. A couple sent me emails declaring that nothing Padilla experienced was torture. A little unpleasant, perhaps. But clearly, these are people who think they could take it. “I don’t consider water-boarding torture,” declares Allahpundit stoutly. Brave lad. [...] […] In the last post I wrote that Padilla had been subjected to nearly four years of torture. Some rightie commenters questioned that. A couple sent me emails declaring that nothing Padilla experienced was torture. A little unpleasant, perhaps. But clearly, these are people who think they could take it. “I don’t consider water-boarding torture,” declares Allahpundit stoutly. Brave lad. […]

]]> by: The Mahablog » Michelle Malkin Hates Our Freedoms http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272675 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:45:26 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272675 [...] I wouldn’t have a quarrel with the verdict had Padilla’s rights as a citizen been observed. If there was evidence showing him conspiring with terrorists, certainly an arrest and trial was warranted. But his rights as a citizen were not observed. There is no justice here. [...] […] I wouldn’t have a quarrel with the verdict had Padilla’s rights as a citizen been observed. If there was evidence showing him conspiring with terrorists, certainly an arrest and trial was warranted. But his rights as a citizen were not observed. There is no justice here. […]

]]> by: links for 2007-08-16 at pretentious blowhard http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272637 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:21:06 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272637 [...] The Mahablog » They Are Us We’ve become what we we fought for more than half a century. (tags: torture war terrorism) [...] […] The Mahablog » They Are Us We’ve become what we we fought for more than half a century. (tags: torture war terrorism) […]

]]> by: Torture and its examination « Later On http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272323 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:02:44 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272323 [...] Posted in Bush Administration, GOP, Government at 2:02 pm by LeisureGuy Via Glenn Greenwald, this post explains how the US tortured Jose Padilla using a KGB recipe. It starts with the following, but read the whole post. KGB “interrogation” techniques were used to “break” Jose Padilla. Warren Richey writes for the Christian Science Monitor“. [...] […] Posted in Bush Administration, GOP, Government at 2:02 pm by LeisureGuy Via Glenn Greenwald, this post explains how the US tortured Jose Padilla using a KGB recipe. It starts with the following, but read the whole post. KGB “interrogation” techniques were used to “break” Jose Padilla. Warren Richey writes for the Christian Science Monitor“. […]

]]> by: janinsanfran http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272132 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:45:13 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272132 Padilla is an experiment -- on him, to observe the effects of different forms of torture -- on us, to see if we'll put up with the deformation of our country. It seems to have been quite successful. Padilla is an experiment — on him, to observe the effects of different forms of torture — on us, to see if we’ll put up with the deformation of our country. It seems to have been quite successful.

]]> by: lucidity http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272018 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:12:44 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-272018 This was a favorite technique of the East German Stasi also. They didn't go much for the pull-your-fingernails-out forms of torture, preferring instead to lock people up in solitary confinement for 12 months or so. Much less messy, and you get the same result. This was a favorite technique of the East German Stasi also. They didn’t go much for the pull-your-fingernails-out forms of torture, preferring instead to lock people up in solitary confinement for 12 months or so. Much less messy, and you get the same result.

]]> by: We Are The 801 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-271995 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:54:21 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-271995 Eh, we don't care, we haven't cared for the past six years what we * are doing in the name of "national security." No more different than how many Germans looked the other way (or worse, participated) in Nazism. I am ashamed not only of the American government. I am ashamed of America itself. But, that being said, the US government has been doing this for more than the past six years. The only difference is now its just a little more obvious what we are doing. But hardly anyone is flinching. This is not my country. And I don't mean not just my government. I have no idea who these people are around me. Oh yes, there is a propaganda machine out there (and I don't just mean Faux-- I mean the entire MSM) but people still have a choice. They've made their choice. Torture, cruelty & inhumaness is something we Americans condone. History will judge us guilty for this just as it has judged the Germans of the thirties & forties (not JUST the Nazi government). * Note: Yes, WE, including myself-- because we are the ones ultimately responsible for allowing this to continue, all of us, not just the government-- remember we DO have a say in all this (Bush's questionable election notwithstanding-- and there are still the Senate & House). Eh, we don’t care, we haven’t cared for the past six years what we * are doing in the name of “national security.” No more different than how many Germans looked the other way (or worse, participated) in Nazism. I am ashamed not only of the American government. I am ashamed of America itself.

But, that being said, the US government has been doing this for more than the past six years. The only difference is now its just a little more obvious what we are doing. But hardly anyone is flinching.

This is not my country. And I don’t mean not just my government. I have no idea who these people are around me. Oh yes, there is a propaganda machine out there (and I don’t just mean Faux– I mean the entire MSM) but people still have a choice. They’ve made their choice. Torture, cruelty & inhumaness is something we Americans condone. History will judge us guilty for this just as it has judged the Germans of the thirties & forties (not JUST the Nazi government).

* Note: Yes, WE, including myself– because we are the ones ultimately responsible for allowing this to continue, all of us, not just the government– remember we DO have a say in all this (Bush’s questionable election notwithstanding– and there are still the Senate & House).

]]> by: moonbat http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-271868 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:23:40 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/08/13/they-are-us/#comment-271868 <i>Philosophers, psychologists, doctors, writers could have observed in our camps more than in anywhere else, all the versatility and in full details the specific process of narrowing of man's mental and intellectual horizon, decline of a man to the level of an animal and his process of dying alive. </i> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, <i>The Gulag Archipelago</i> How long will it take for someone to fully expose the American Archipelago, the Empire's worldwide network of prisions, handily out of reach of American law and mostly beyond the American collective conscience? And will anyone care? Philosophers, psychologists, doctors, writers could have observed in our camps more than in anywhere else, all the versatility and in full details the specific process of narrowing of man’s mental and intellectual horizon, decline of a man to the level of an animal and his process of dying alive.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

How long will it take for someone to fully expose the American Archipelago, the Empire’s worldwide network of prisions, handily out of reach of American law and mostly beyond the American collective conscience? And will anyone care?

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