Here’s my point about the disconnect. These little kings we are arming have no incentive to build a national unity government with real binding elections and laws from a ‘federal’ branch. Why would they? So soldiers of what they view as a puppet gov’t can march in and remove them from power?

Our guns make the little tyrant stronger, and to get thse weapons he will for the short-term – support US goals. On the political side, building a national unity government is NOT in his interest, and he can and will kick holes in the bottom of that boat, even as he shoots ‘terrorists’ for the USA, in exchange for guns.

Building a national unity government from the bottom-up is a crackhead fantasy.

That article referred to a “reat humiliation that is ours forever.” The only redemption is renouncing what engendered the humiliation. It is unfortunate that others have seen bloodlust as being redemptive.

I do believe that a collective humiliation plays a key role in what comes next. We should not lose sight of how prominent yet denied that will be in the intransigence that so many will have in opposing change that needs to happen. There are strategies for dealing with these types that will be more or less effective to the degree that we recognize that their squirmings and twistings are indicative of their own internal struggle to deny their humiliation.

Did anyone notice Matthews blank stares (deer in headlights? stuggling for comprehension? competitive fear of being outdone) as Olbermann produced final closing comments?

Matthews was uncharacteristically focused, possibly due to the helpful presence of Olbermann. I head nothing resembling his wierd gender musings regarding what Hillary wore and other such nonsense. His remarks on circular logic and a certain creepiness (can remember his exact characterization)

http://sfgate.com:80/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/09/14/notes091407.DTL&nl=fix

But ‘good’ contractors have been doing it for centuries. Again, no surprise here.

That I can certainly agree with.

I didn’t see the speech (don’t need to seen it before I would bet). Just completed a 714 mile road trip back from an Air NAtional Guard base in Fargo N.D. Quit a drive (11 hours a new record). I talked to more than a few “military types” during my 2 day stay, and not surprisingly they don’t care for bu$hco any more than us “liberals”. Not one of them had a good word for the “decider”. All I heard was we aint got no money to fix our base, cause it’s all in Iraq. I was there evaluating some of their basic infrastructure needs. Anyway this whole “war” has become a little more relevant to me (a relative of mine just arrived at camp slayer for a 15 month tour). So far this is what I have heard: a $100.00 phone card will only get you $20.00 worth of phone time (phones are controlled by U.S. contractors), internet access is quite expensive (also controlled by contractors), I don’t have the $$$ figure off hand but they (our soldiers) are charged by the minute. Support the troops=send them some cash so they can at least communicate with their friends and family back home. Anyway I don’t understand why the Dems keep wringing their hands about what to do. They should just come out and state the truth: this is bu$hco’s war, and it aint gonna end until one of two things happen. 1. The righties in the house and senate get a clue and start signing on to some real war ending legislation. 2. Wait till next year, and if you want the war to come to a responsible end, vote for a president that will do so. Very simple, end of story.