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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: The Conjecturer &#187; On War Mongering and Bloodlust</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-314149</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] More from Mahablog, who notes that this crowd is complaining the Nazis were in fact nicer people than the insurgents in Iraq. This ignores the traditional unreliability of information extracted through torture. There is just no excuse for it, not even pointing to Roosevelt, who is a terrible example of a brave and selfless ruler looking out for his country. Some loonies like Michelle Malkin may disagree, but since when were they taken seriously? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] More from Mahablog, who notes that this crowd is complaining the Nazis were in fact nicer people than the insurgents in Iraq. This ignores the traditional unreliability of information extracted through torture. There is just no excuse for it, not even pointing to Roosevelt, who is a terrible example of a brave and selfless ruler looking out for his country. Some loonies like Michelle Malkin may disagree, but since when were they taken seriously? [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: JABbering Stooge :: DLC&#8217;s &#8220;Battered Wife Syndrome&#8221; on display :: October :: 2007</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-314076</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] I mean, seriously. Ford suggested that we &amp;#8220;compromise&amp;#8221; by giving Bush the bill he says he wants and dare him to veto it. Two problems with this: one - the whole country, not to mention a near veto-proof majority of Congress, wants the bill that Bush vetoed to pass, and two - that Ford&amp;#8217;s prattle reminds one of the battered wife who thinks that her husband beating the shit out of her every night is really her fault, and that because he&amp;#8217;s promised that he has changed, she should give him one more chance. Well, Congressman Ford, we&amp;#8217;ve given Bush &amp;#8220;one more chance&amp;#8221; several times in the last few years - on Iraq, on torture, on spying on political opponents American citizens, you name it. Bush, like the battering husband, refuses to change - using every possible issue as a club with which to wield against the Democrats in Congress. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] I mean, seriously. Ford suggested that we &#8220;compromise&#8221; by giving Bush the bill he says he wants and dare him to veto it. Two problems with this: one - the whole country, not to mention a near veto-proof majority of Congress, wants the bill that Bush vetoed to pass, and two - that Ford&#8217;s prattle reminds one of the battered wife who thinks that her husband beating the shit out of her every night is really her fault, and that because he&#8217;s promised that he has changed, she should give him one more chance. Well, Congressman Ford, we&#8217;ve given Bush &#8220;one more chance&#8221; several times in the last few years - on Iraq, on torture, on spying on political opponents American citizens, you name it. Bush, like the battering husband, refuses to change - using every possible issue as a club with which to wield against the Democrats in Congress. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Make Them Accountable / The Nation</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-313274</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-313274</guid>
					<description>[...] Fort Hunt&amp;#8217;s Quiet Men Break Silence on WWII (via The Mahablog) When about two dozen [World War II] veterans got together [Thursday] for the first time since the 1940s, many of the proud men lamented the chasm between the way they conducted interrogations during the war and the harsh measures used today in questioning terrorism suspects… Several of the veterans, all men in their 80s and 90s, denounced the controversial techniques. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] Fort Hunt&#8217;s Quiet Men Break Silence on WWII (via The Mahablog) When about two dozen [World War II] veterans got together [Thursday] for the first time since the 1940s, many of the proud men lamented the chasm between the way they conducted interrogations during the war and the harsh measures used today in questioning terrorism suspects… Several of the veterans, all men in their 80s and 90s, denounced the controversial techniques. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-313249</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-313249</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;In WWII, when we found that our soldiers were being mistreated as prisoners, we felt justified in treating the enemy in kind. Now, it is known to all that WE mistreat (understatement) our enemy prisoners…&lt;/i&gt; 

I had an uncle who was a POW in Japan in WWII, and he was treated horribly. Turns out that the Japanese guards believed that Americans tortured Japanese prisoners, and so thought they were justified. Of course, then we didn't torture prisoners. The Japanese were being told this so that they'd fight to the death and not surrender, I believe.

On the flip side, once I spoke with a young woman who told me her grandfather had been a POW in WWII. Oh, that must have been hard for him, I said. Not at all, she replied. He had been in the Italian army, and Americans took him prisoner. He thought it was the luckiest break he ever got. He liked the Americans so much, he immigrated to the U.S. after the War.

That's the country we used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>In WWII, when we found that our soldiers were being mistreated as prisoners, we felt justified in treating the enemy in kind. Now, it is known to all that WE mistreat (understatement) our enemy prisoners…</i> </p>
	<p>I had an uncle who was a POW in Japan in WWII, and he was treated horribly. Turns out that the Japanese guards believed that Americans tortured Japanese prisoners, and so thought they were justified. Of course, then we didn&#8217;t torture prisoners. The Japanese were being told this so that they&#8217;d fight to the death and not surrender, I believe.</p>
	<p>On the flip side, once I spoke with a young woman who told me her grandfather had been a POW in WWII. Oh, that must have been hard for him, I said. Not at all, she replied. He had been in the Italian army, and Americans took him prisoner. He thought it was the luckiest break he ever got. He liked the Americans so much, he immigrated to the U.S. after the War.</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s the country we used to be.
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		<title>by: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-312142</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-312142</guid>
					<description>&quot;...included summary executions of Japanese prisoners. After they and/or their comrades were found to have tortured Americans to death.&quot;

Do you think Bushies will EVER connect that statement to what THEY THEMSELVES are doing? The guy quoted above obviously didn't (in fact, he thought he was making exactly the opposite point!).

For any Bushies who happen to be reading: In WWII, when we found that our soldiers were being mistreated as prisoners, we felt justified in treating the enemy in kind.  Now, it is known to all that WE mistreat (understatement) our enemy prisoners...

Do you think they will get it now?  I fear they won't...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;&#8230;included summary executions of Japanese prisoners. After they and/or their comrades were found to have tortured Americans to death.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Do you think Bushies will EVER connect that statement to what THEY THEMSELVES are doing? The guy quoted above obviously didn&#8217;t (in fact, he thought he was making exactly the opposite point!).</p>
	<p>For any Bushies who happen to be reading: In WWII, when we found that our soldiers were being mistreated as prisoners, we felt justified in treating the enemy in kind.  Now, it is known to all that WE mistreat (understatement) our enemy prisoners&#8230;</p>
	<p>Do you think they will get it now?  I fear they won&#8217;t&#8230;
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		<title>by: Denmark &#187; Blog Archives &#187; The End Of Cheap Oil</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-311117</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-311117</guid>
					<description>[...] “I never compromised my humanity.”  to Denmark. During the many interrogations, I never laid hands on anyone, said George Frenkel, 87 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] “I never compromised my humanity.”  to Denmark. During the many interrogations, I never laid hands on anyone, said George Frenkel, 87 [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Denmark &#187; Blog Archives &#187; “I never compromised my humanity.”</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-311110</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-311110</guid>
					<description>[...] “I never compromised my humanity.”  to Denmark. During the many interrogations, I never laid hands on anyone, said George Frenkel, 87 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] “I never compromised my humanity.”  to Denmark. During the many interrogations, I never laid hands on anyone, said George Frenkel, 87 [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: gabriel christou</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-310278</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-310278</guid>
					<description>please visit www.gabrielchristou.blogspot.com

you will see PHOTOS of WHO and WHERE Bin Laden and his NETWORKS ARE....

PLEASE FORWARD THIS INFORMATION TO THE FBI
gavriild@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>please visit <a href='http://www.gabrielchristou.blogspot.com' rel='nofollow'>www.gabrielchristou.blogspot.com</a></p>
	<p>you will see PHOTOS of WHO and WHERE Bin Laden and his NETWORKS ARE&#8230;.</p>
	<p>PLEASE FORWARD THIS INFORMATION TO THE FBI<br />
<a href="mailto:gavriild@gmail.com">gavriild@gmail.com</a>
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		<title>by: zhak</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-309850</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-309850</guid>
					<description>Referencing to the Capt Ed bit: 

His stated inference is that the great brown menace we're fighting is uncivilized. Their customs are indeed different from ours (&amp;#38; amongst themselves they vary greatly as well) but the reason they're fighting us is that, you know, WE INVADED THEIR COUNTRY. 

Bin Laden had nothing to do with Iraq, of course. Iraqis were not planning, much less carrying out, terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden is a religious extremist, not the leader of a country. And at the time he &amp;#38; his followers carried out their attacks, they were a very small group, right? Largely marginalized around the world &amp;#38; numbering about a thousand fanatics, give or take? I seem to recall that from a BBC documentary that never got any air time over here. How many Americans realize how much we've sacrificed for about a thousand fanatics (whom we have not been able to crush anyway)? Hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, countries ruined, our moral standing pissed away ... for a thousand religious wackos. 

And yet Bush is still president, despite an unprecedented level of incompetence coupled with a resounding lack of compliance with the rule of law (either national or international). This has nothing to do with being a Republican or a Democrat, you know? It's about doing what's right for a country that has gone drastically, horribly wrong. And the failure of the elected officials in our government to deal with this assault on democracy is something that I fear we shall never recover from. 

There's one other thing I'd like to mention. After WWII, many low level German soldiers who took part in rounding up Jews said basically that they had no trouble doing so because after years of being fed Goebbels' poisonous propaganda they simply didn't really think of Jews as people. 

Now the United States has people in the military who are so misguided (or brainwashed) that they feel that they're fighting against the forces of Satan in Iraq, conflating the Devil with a religion not their own, and dehumanizing every Iraqi in the process. And people like Captain Ed here on the &quot;homefront&quot; dismiss them as uncivilized, as somehow lesser beings than us, comfortable in the conceit that he's a patriot and not something much cruder and uglier. 

I am sickened by what's happened to my country. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Referencing to the Capt Ed bit: </p>
	<p>His stated inference is that the great brown menace we&#8217;re fighting is uncivilized. Their customs are indeed different from ours (&amp; amongst themselves they vary greatly as well) but the reason they&#8217;re fighting us is that, you know, WE INVADED THEIR COUNTRY. </p>
	<p>Bin Laden had nothing to do with Iraq, of course. Iraqis were not planning, much less carrying out, terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden is a religious extremist, not the leader of a country. And at the time he &amp; his followers carried out their attacks, they were a very small group, right? Largely marginalized around the world &amp; numbering about a thousand fanatics, give or take? I seem to recall that from a BBC documentary that never got any air time over here. How many Americans realize how much we&#8217;ve sacrificed for about a thousand fanatics (whom we have not been able to crush anyway)? Hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, countries ruined, our moral standing pissed away &#8230; for a thousand religious wackos. </p>
	<p>And yet Bush is still president, despite an unprecedented level of incompetence coupled with a resounding lack of compliance with the rule of law (either national or international). This has nothing to do with being a Republican or a Democrat, you know? It&#8217;s about doing what&#8217;s right for a country that has gone drastically, horribly wrong. And the failure of the elected officials in our government to deal with this assault on democracy is something that I fear we shall never recover from. </p>
	<p>There&#8217;s one other thing I&#8217;d like to mention. After WWII, many low level German soldiers who took part in rounding up Jews said basically that they had no trouble doing so because after years of being fed Goebbels&#8217; poisonous propaganda they simply didn&#8217;t really think of Jews as people. </p>
	<p>Now the United States has people in the military who are so misguided (or brainwashed) that they feel that they&#8217;re fighting against the forces of Satan in Iraq, conflating the Devil with a religion not their own, and dehumanizing every Iraqi in the process. And people like Captain Ed here on the &#8220;homefront&#8221; dismiss them as uncivilized, as somehow lesser beings than us, comfortable in the conceit that he&#8217;s a patriot and not something much cruder and uglier. </p>
	<p>I am sickened by what&#8217;s happened to my country. <img src='http://www.mahablog.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Avedon</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/06/i-never-compromised-my-humanity/#comment-309627</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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