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		<title>By: Buzzcook</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/14/mighty-links/comment-page-1/#comment-324690</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzzcook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Yes, Iraq was always going to be hugely difficult, but the potential payoff of erecting a decent, democratizing government in the heart of the Arab world was also enormous&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Just pointing out that the new improved Tommy Friedman still thinks the unprovoked invasion of another country was just a peachy idea. Too bad George Bush was in charge of Tommy&#039;s dream or it would have all been tea and cakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Yes, Iraq was always going to be hugely difficult, but the potential payoff of erecting a decent, democratizing government in the heart of the Arab world was also enormous&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Just pointing out that the new improved Tommy Friedman still thinks the unprovoked invasion of another country was just a peachy idea. Too bad George Bush was in charge of Tommy&#8217;s dream or it would have all been tea and cakes.</p>
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		<title>By: grendelkhan</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/14/mighty-links/comment-page-1/#comment-323177</link>
		<dc:creator>grendelkhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How venial. They&#039;re not even &lt;i&gt;saying&lt;/i&gt; anything over at NewsBusters; they&#039;re just getting their ritualized hate on, complete with its obligatory wankish fantasies of Islamofascists cutting the throats of their enemies while they wag their fingers and explain that they &lt;i&gt;told you so&lt;/i&gt;.

But this, I think, is the part that disgusts me the most. It&#039;s &lt;i&gt;cowardice&lt;/i&gt;, pure and simple, from a group that prides itself on its machismo.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/10/14/nyts-rich-bush-admin-uses-gestapo-techniques-americans-akin-good-g#comment-454445&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bassndude&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: For my money, I dont care how, what, when or where question these thugs. I dont care if they kill em in the process, so long as it is to keep my grandkids safe in the schools.&lt;/blockquote&gt; This reminds me of something. Something I can&#039;t quite put my finger on...

Ah, yes.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://media.guardian.co.uk/mediaguardian/story/0,,1995270,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joel Surnow, creator of &lt;i&gt;24&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: I would bet there are a lot of soldiers fighting wars, on all sides, in all sorts of conflicts, under pressure when the bullets are flying and wanting information, who do all sorts of things. And I don&#039;t want to know about it. I just want to be safe.&lt;/blockquote&gt; If only Ben Franklin had specified that we shouldn&#039;t be so quick to give up &lt;i&gt;others&#039;&lt;/i&gt; liberty to gain &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; safety, perhaps we wouldn&#039;t be seeing this kind of pusillanimity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How venial. They&#8217;re not even <i>saying</i> anything over at NewsBusters; they&#8217;re just getting their ritualized hate on, complete with its obligatory wankish fantasies of Islamofascists cutting the throats of their enemies while they wag their fingers and explain that they <i>told you so</i>.</p>
<p>But this, I think, is the part that disgusts me the most. It&#8217;s <i>cowardice</i>, pure and simple, from a group that prides itself on its machismo.</p>
<blockquote><p><b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/10/14/nyts-rich-bush-admin-uses-gestapo-techniques-americans-akin-good-g#comment-454445" rel="nofollow">bassndude</a></b>: For my money, I dont care how, what, when or where question these thugs. I dont care if they kill em in the process, so long as it is to keep my grandkids safe in the schools.</p></blockquote>
<p> This reminds me of something. Something I can&#8217;t quite put my finger on&#8230;</p>
<p>Ah, yes.</p>
<blockquote><p><b><a href="http://media.guardian.co.uk/mediaguardian/story/0,,1995270,00.html" rel="nofollow">Joel Surnow, creator of <i>24</i></a></b>: I would bet there are a lot of soldiers fighting wars, on all sides, in all sorts of conflicts, under pressure when the bullets are flying and wanting information, who do all sorts of things. And I don&#8217;t want to know about it. I just want to be safe.</p></blockquote>
<p> If only Ben Franklin had specified that we shouldn&#8217;t be so quick to give up <i>others&#8217;</i> liberty to gain <i>our</i> safety, perhaps we wouldn&#8217;t be seeing this kind of pusillanimity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/14/mighty-links/comment-page-1/#comment-323052</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the cat lovers:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/weekinreview/14burns.html?ei=5090&amp;en=3df6859eb98f28e0&amp;ex=1350014400&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=print

It will tug at your heart regarding the human lives in Iraq, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the cat lovers:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/weekinreview/14burns.html?ei=5090&amp;en=3df6859eb98f28e0&amp;ex=1350014400&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=print" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/weekinreview/14burns.html?ei=5090&amp;en=3df6859eb98f28e0&amp;ex=1350014400&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=print</a></p>
<p>It will tug at your heart regarding the human lives in Iraq, too.</p>
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		<title>By: joanr16</title>
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		<dc:creator>joanr16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct, the &quot;objective counts&quot; argument is complete fantasy.

And in the subjective &lt;i&gt;court&lt;/i&gt; of opinion, Nobel laureate Gore is kicking Bush&#039;s ass.

To have an American win the Peace Prize this year is something that should make &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; Americans proud.  The current administration&#039;s actions in Iraq had all but guaranteed that no American would win for another 20 or 30 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct, the &#8220;objective counts&#8221; argument is complete fantasy.</p>
<p>And in the subjective <i>court</i> of opinion, Nobel laureate Gore is kicking Bush&#8217;s ass.</p>
<p>To have an American win the Peace Prize this year is something that should make <i>all</i> Americans proud.  The current administration&#8217;s actions in Iraq had all but guaranteed that no American would win for another 20 or 30 years.</p>
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		<title>By: moonbat</title>
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		<dc:creator>moonbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying that the war is being fought by the highest ethical standards is a standard rightie canard, by those who refuse to look at the data. Or who don&#039;t care even when they do. We&#039;re righteous, by definition. Period.

Along with Frank Rich, I&#039;d also add this frightening piece by Naomi Wolf, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/12/4502/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;American Tears&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s about all the people who&#039;ve come up to her on her book tour (she wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/End-America-Letter-Warning-Patriot/dp/1933392797/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0685328-0539941?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1192378756&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot&lt;/a&gt;),who are frightened and paralyzed to take action, because they&#039;ll face some sort of recrimination, or end up on a list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying that the war is being fought by the highest ethical standards is a standard rightie canard, by those who refuse to look at the data. Or who don&#8217;t care even when they do. We&#8217;re righteous, by definition. Period.</p>
<p>Along with Frank Rich, I&#8217;d also add this frightening piece by Naomi Wolf, <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/12/4502/" rel="nofollow">American Tears</a>. It&#8217;s about all the people who&#8217;ve come up to her on her book tour (she wrote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/End-America-Letter-Warning-Patriot/dp/1933392797/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0685328-0539941?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1192378756&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot</a>),who are frightened and paralyzed to take action, because they&#8217;ll face some sort of recrimination, or end up on a list.</p>
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		<title>By: goatherd</title>
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		<dc:creator>goatherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you have it posted it says &quot;counts&quot; not &quot;courts&quot;.

I believe objective counts found just the opposite. Florida&#039;s criterion for counting a vote is the &quot;voter&#039;s intent&quot;. When the entire state was recounted, Gore won.  When the criterion of voter&#039;s intent was applied to thousands of &quot;overvotes&quot; in which for example, the box for Gore was checked and &quot;Gore&quot; was also written in a space marked &quot;write in candidate&quot;, Gore won by a few thousand votes.  I think any rational person would agree that the voter&#039;s intent is clear in this particular kind of overvote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you have it posted it says &#8220;counts&#8221; not &#8220;courts&#8221;.</p>
<p>I believe objective counts found just the opposite. Florida&#8217;s criterion for counting a vote is the &#8220;voter&#8217;s intent&#8221;. When the entire state was recounted, Gore won.  When the criterion of voter&#8217;s intent was applied to thousands of &#8220;overvotes&#8221; in which for example, the box for Gore was checked and &#8220;Gore&#8221; was also written in a space marked &#8220;write in candidate&#8221;, Gore won by a few thousand votes.  I think any rational person would agree that the voter&#8217;s intent is clear in this particular kind of overvote.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffreyw</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffreyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in update two, it is &quot;counts&quot;, not &quot;courts&quot; in the excerpted bit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in update two, it is &#8220;counts&#8221;, not &#8220;courts&#8221; in the excerpted bit</p>
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		<title>By: recommended reading &#124; Blog and News Tidbets</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/14/mighty-links/comment-page-1/#comment-322946</link>
		<dc:creator>recommended reading &#124; Blog and News Tidbets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mighty Links [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mighty Links [...]</p>
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		<title>By: grayslady</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2007/10/14/mighty-links/comment-page-1/#comment-322930</link>
		<dc:creator>grayslady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The normal quasi-humorous sarcasm was notably missing from today&#039;s column by Frank Rich. Along with the recent works by the two Naomis (Klein and Wolf), the focus has clearly shifted to trying to sound the alarm loudly and clearly. I used to wonder how the German people could have accepted Nazism. I have a whole new insight thanks to the last 7 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The normal quasi-humorous sarcasm was notably missing from today&#8217;s column by Frank Rich. Along with the recent works by the two Naomis (Klein and Wolf), the focus has clearly shifted to trying to sound the alarm loudly and clearly. I used to wonder how the German people could have accepted Nazism. I have a whole new insight thanks to the last 7 years.</p>
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/american-tears_b_68141.html
Please add this to the list...........</description>
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Please add this to the list&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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