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Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:35:43 +0000

[…] Cabbages in GreenlandBack in the early1960s, when global warming was only a theory, scientists predicted that the effects would be most dramatic in the polar regions, and this is borne out by the dramatic lengthening of the growing season in Greenland … […]

by: MNPundit

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:02:49 +0000

Assuming anyone does survive, when things finally stabilized again, the opportunities for control (assuming the knowledge has been preserved) will be staggering.

by: Doug Hughes

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:54:17 +0000

Ms Clear - Any one of the symptoms of global warming might be a fluke. But the circumstantial evidence is becoming so damning, even the prez is giving the situation lip service. Lip service is all it is, as he wants all the objectives to be met voluntarily.

We have to lay some heavy restrictions on coal-burning elec plants. We have to move to fuel efficiant cars. We have to fund the development of electric cars as the 2nd car for every family with 2+ cars. And we need to fund fusion R&D as a source for electric power.

Which means we need a President AND Congress willing to stand up against the auto industry, big oil, the energy industry.. damn near every organized lobby except the Girl Scouts. And I don’t see it happening, even with the Democrats sweeping in ‘08. All those industries have ways of spreading money around in DC.

by: Ms. Clear

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:59:44 +0000

Not that I don’t think global climate change may potentially be very serious, but there have been similar conditions in Greenland before. It’s known as the Medieval Warm Period.

by: Marcia Zuvanich

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:01:17 +0000

Here in northern Oklahoma the trees are also about two to four weeks slow in turning colors and losing leaves. And while we have had almost 3 times the annual amount of rain this year, it has been in “gully-washers” and then very dry in between. My only thought about cabbages in Greenland was that maybe they’d be pesticide free. You think? I’m up in years and probably won’t experience all the fallout of global warming but I am concerned for the family I will leave behind. And I see nothing good in the political scene, so I just keep reading you, Maha, and hoping for the best.

by: Dave

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:48:21 +0000

I’m waiting for Dana Perino to tell us that locally-grown-in-Greenland vegetables are one example of the obvious health benefits of global warming that she was talking about two weeks ago. Oy.

by: Donna

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:58:54 +0000

Extremes of climate change really put into perspective all those usual political wedge issues that fill so many minds. Kind of like dusting the furniture while a tornado approaches.

by: goatherd

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:52:38 +0000

I am writing this from Bend, Oregon. There is one comforting difference between being here and being back home in NC, people are more aware and more willing to accept that we are seeing the effects of global warming. Of a dozen or so spontaneous conversations with people in Portland, lastweek most involved a healthy bit about global warming.

Back home we are in the middle of an extensive drought, which is the category beyond extreme drought. It is the driest year on record, worse than 2002, which was the driest year on record at that time. Both the apple and the hay crops failed. Unfortunately, most people are still resistant to the idea that we may be part of the cause. After a few more years of difficulties, maybe they will face the facts.

By the way, my smarter half estimates that our trees are six to eight weeks out of whack. Usually they have changed and dropped by now.

Michael Byron of “Thoughts and Speculations” used an analogy similar to your “beachball” in a post about society and systems theory. Maybe that was where you got the analogy.

I think about Alvin Toffler suggesting the need for “Cognicenti” to interpret and settle questions involving science, economics, etc, which have become far too complicated for the common stock of humanity, like myself, to deal with on our own. Instead we have a kind of ersatz cognicenti like the various “think tanks” who peddle their idealogical wares on issues which are well outside of their expertise. E.g. a local NPR program had a single guest from the American Enterprise Institute for an hour long talk show on global waming. Does that make any sense to anyone out there?

by: maha

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:16:45 +0000

I just came back from my morning exercise walk. Most of the sugar and norway maple trees are nearly as green as they were in mid-summer. I passed one tree that I think is a red maple because its leaves are smaller, and it was blazing orange, but that was an exception. Most other varieties of trees are just beginning to turn. Roses are gone, but I saw a patch of impatience that showed no sign of cold damage. This was all just a few miles north of The Bronx. Once upon a time the leaves were mostly gone by this time of year.

by: erinyes

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:45:24 +0000

I fear you are right Maha.
In the last Democrat debate, Hillary said she would pull our Military Forces out of Iraq, except for a number to deal with Al qaida and to protect “Our Embasy” , which is a euphanism for the sprawling base near Baghdad.
In other words, if Hillary is elected, our military will be in Iraq for many years to come.

I live on about an acre and a half lot near Orlando, I grow a lot of exotic plants like rare bamboos, bananas, macadamia, papayas. Orlando is about as far north as these plants will grow well because we generally get killing frosts in late Dec-Jan.
Not so for the past few years, and I’m giving bananas away as fast as they pop up, I’m up to my ears in in them!

Unless things change politically, I’m quite sure we will have resource wars not only in the ME, but across Central Asia, Africa, and even in the Arctic. Sadly, the majority of Earth’s oil and gas lies beneath Muslim lands,all the easier to sell this war on “terror”.
All who resist will be “terrorists”, and all who oppose the wars will be friends of the “terrorists”.