Comments on: Food v. Medical Care http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:01:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: felicity http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-394241 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:03:47 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-394241 This may be off topic, but since the enemies of single-payer health care plans only have to mention 'Socialized Medicine' for the entire American population to go into paroxysms, the proponents of sphc plans might consider de-fanging 'socialized'. Systems which an entire populace needs to have in place must be jointly funded by that entire populace. Thus, we have in place police departments, fire departments...and the real biggie, the military. Since we realize the efficacy of those very 'socialized' systems, we need not go into paroxysms at the mention of socialized medicine. This may be off topic, but since the enemies of single-payer health care plans only have to mention ‘Socialized Medicine’ for the entire American population to go into paroxysms, the proponents of sphc plans might consider de-fanging ’socialized’.

Systems which an entire populace needs to have in place must be jointly funded by that entire populace. Thus, we have in place police departments, fire departments…and the real biggie, the military. Since we realize the efficacy of those very ’socialized’ systems, we need not go into paroxysms at the mention of socialized medicine.

]]> by: Francis http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-393422 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:21:27 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-393422 <em>Will anyone look at what the profits of the medical insurance companies are? That’s how much we are paying in pemiums that’s not legitimate admiinistrative costs &#38; legitimate medical costs.</em> I'd dispute that - that's only some of the permiums that are not legitimate administrative costs. There are all the bureaucrats in assessing the insurance costs and making sure that they aren't paid (which dwarfs the scale in other comparable countries) and quite a few other illegitimate ways of making money there. Will anyone look at what the profits of the medical insurance companies are? That’s how much we are paying in pemiums that’s not legitimate admiinistrative costs & legitimate medical costs.

I’d dispute that - that’s only some of the permiums that are not legitimate administrative costs. There are all the bureaucrats in assessing the insurance costs and making sure that they aren’t paid (which dwarfs the scale in other comparable countries) and quite a few other illegitimate ways of making money there.

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-392319 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:46:02 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-392319 <i>Making people pay $50 per a doctor’s visit isn’t going to make much of a dent. Hell, I’d be willing to pay for my own preventative care in exchange for government guaranteed catastrophic care.</i> I'd prefer that to the Edwards or Clinton plans. If the government is paying for the expensive stuff, then private supplemental insurance for the other stuff wouldn't cost all that much. Not ideal, but better. Making people pay $50 per a doctor’s visit isn’t going to make much of a dent. Hell, I’d be willing to pay for my own preventative care in exchange for government guaranteed catastrophic care.

I’d prefer that to the Edwards or Clinton plans. If the government is paying for the expensive stuff, then private supplemental insurance for the other stuff wouldn’t cost all that much. Not ideal, but better.

]]> by: Doug Hughes http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391972 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:39:14 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391972 Will anyone look at what the profits of the medical insurance companies are? That's how much we are paying in pemiums that's not legitimate admiinistrative costs &#38; legitimate medical costs. Why haven't any insurance companies been sued for practicing medicine without a license or malpractice when they croak a patient whose medical needs don't fit what they want to pay? Will anyone look at what the profits of the medical insurance companies are? That’s how much we are paying in pemiums that’s not legitimate admiinistrative costs & legitimate medical costs.

Why haven’t any insurance companies been sued for practicing medicine without a license or malpractice when they croak a patient whose medical needs don’t fit what they want to pay?

]]> by: Ms. Clear http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391883 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:18:07 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391883 Great post! Healthcare is my most important domestic issue concern. Great point from Krugman too regarding the high cost of very expensive procedures that extend life. These are what drives up costs! Making people pay $50 per a doctor's visit isn't going to make much of a dent. Hell, I'd be willing to pay for my own preventative care in exchange for government guaranteed catastrophic care. It wouldn't be ideal, but it would be better than what we have now. I believe that this was the Kerry plan. Maybe something like that would be realistic, given the stubborn myth of "rugged individualism" that we all labor under. Great post! Healthcare is my most important domestic issue concern. Great point from Krugman too regarding the high cost of very expensive procedures that extend life. These are what drives up costs! Making people pay $50 per a doctor’s visit isn’t going to make much of a dent. Hell, I’d be willing to pay for my own preventative care in exchange for government guaranteed catastrophic care. It wouldn’t be ideal, but it would be better than what we have now. I believe that this was the Kerry plan. Maybe something like that would be realistic, given the stubborn myth of “rugged individualism” that we all labor under.

]]> by: BWAF http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391650 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:25:43 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391650 Excellent analysis on this issue. Found it to be a great read and will be forwarding it to family and friends! Excellent analysis on this issue. Found it to be a great read and will be forwarding it to family and friends!

]]> by: erinyes http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391570 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:58:09 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391570 I am laughing my ass off as I write this.... Everybody is indexing socialized health care to the U.K and Canada. Let's take a look at health care in another socialized state, Israel. WE subsidize the universal health care in our little brother state of Israel, but nary a mention of it! WTF!!! I suppose the Israelis are God's chosen people, and we need to support that. In the words of Eric Cartman: screw you guys, I'm going home. I am laughing my ass off as I write this….
Everybody is indexing socialized health care to the U.K and Canada.
Let’s take a look at health care in another socialized state, Israel.
WE subsidize the universal health care in our little brother state of Israel, but nary a mention of it! WTF!!!
I suppose the Israelis are God’s chosen people, and we need to support that.
In the words of Eric Cartman: screw you guys, I’m going home.

]]> by: Carolyn Kay http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391427 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:03:03 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391427 Think about this: We taxpayers subsidize the foods that make us obese and give us diabetes, causing the need for more medical care, which we subsidize less. Carolyn Kay MakeThemAccountable.com Think about this: We taxpayers subsidize the foods that make us obese and give us diabetes, causing the need for more medical care, which we subsidize less.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

]]> by: Bonnie http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391307 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:16:51 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391307 Here is an interesting article on big business health care: Health Insurer Tied Bonuses to Dropping Sick Policyholders By Lisa Girion The Los Angeles Times http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/111107C.shtml Here is an interesting article on big business health care:

Health Insurer Tied Bonuses to Dropping Sick Policyholders
By Lisa Girion
The Los Angeles Times
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/111107C.shtml

]]> by: whig http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391129 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:17:46 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/11/11/food-v-medical-care/#comment-391129 We socialize the costs, and privatize the profits. Brilliant! as you say. We socialize the costs, and privatize the profits. Brilliant! as you say.

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