Comments on: Hang on Tight http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:01:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: whig http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-516949 Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:58:18 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-516949 Doug, I wouldn't say the founders were deep believers in democracy either, it was a very contentious time and there were then as now the same divisions. The constitution was a compromise document, and it had some very serious defects some of which have yet to be corrected. We've had corporations since before America, the British East India company was the original corporation against which the colonists rebelled. Doug, I wouldn’t say the founders were deep believers in democracy either, it was a very contentious time and there were then as now the same divisions. The constitution was a compromise document, and it had some very serious defects some of which have yet to be corrected. We’ve had corporations since before America, the British East India company was the original corporation against which the colonists rebelled.

]]> by: Doug Hughes http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-515992 Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:39:03 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-515992 Whig - you are sooo right. A long time ago, I recognized te tendancy or approved histories to use the words democracy & capitalism together. Indeed I supect many think they would be conterparts in a thesarus. The founding fathers cared deeply about democracy but a lot of them were suspicious of the exploitive nature of cities and business in Europe. A much overlooked fact is the profit motive that radio & TV have. This is not an inherently BAD thing, but if you count the number of cell-phone ads per hour, you appreciate why the MSM gives the controversy over amnesty in the FISA bill, very short shrift. The advertiser is free to take his business where he wants, and if the attitude of the network is too hostile to business, they may be hunting for revenue among advertising scraps. Whig - you are sooo right. A long time ago, I recognized te tendancy or approved histories to use the words democracy & capitalism together. Indeed I supect many think they would be conterparts in a thesarus. The founding fathers cared deeply about democracy but a lot of them were suspicious of the exploitive nature of cities and business in Europe.

A much overlooked fact is the profit motive that radio & TV have. This is not an inherently BAD thing, but if you count the number of cell-phone ads per hour, you appreciate why the MSM gives the controversy over amnesty in the FISA bill, very short shrift.

The advertiser is free to take his business where he wants, and if the attitude of the network is too hostile to business, they may be hunting for revenue among advertising scraps.

]]> by: whig http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-514148 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:19:33 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-514148 People in America are brought up by the corporate media to love and trust the corporations who are trying to sell them things and to equate corporations with America. People in America are brought up by the corporate media to love and trust the corporations who are trying to sell them things and to equate corporations with America.

]]> by: Daryl http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-513735 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:12:40 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-513735 <i>They want the rabble to help them rule</i> I'd say more help them win. The chattering class doesn't want the rabble anywhere near the levers of power. Whether the establishment kills this momentum as they have done previously remains to seen but Huckabee struck a nerve by letting Rush's audience in on the secret. Limbaugh would rather chair the committee to elect Hillary Clinton emperess for life than associate with his adoring public. He's the Lonesome Rhodes of his generation. They want the rabble to help them rule

I’d say more help them win. The chattering class doesn’t want the rabble anywhere near the levers of power. Whether the establishment kills this momentum as they have done previously remains to seen but Huckabee struck a nerve by letting Rush’s audience in on the secret.

Limbaugh would rather chair the committee to elect Hillary Clinton emperess for life than associate with his adoring public. He’s the Lonesome Rhodes of his generation.

]]> by: whig http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-512985 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:09:43 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-512985 Good point, Doug. Corporations are not entitled to the rights of human beings. They are fictions, and have no right to exist whatever. I had a post a while back on <a href="http://cannablog.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/corporate-personhood/" rel="nofollow">corporate personhood</a>, if you can call my brief style a post. Good point, Doug. Corporations are not entitled to the rights of human beings. They are fictions, and have no right to exist whatever.

I had a post a while back on corporate personhood, if you can call my brief style a post.

]]> by: priscianus jr http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-512893 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:44:27 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-512893 Right on, Doug (6), Right on, Swami (12). I think this is happening. Lanky Linc was right. You can fool all the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Right on, Doug (6), Right on, Swami (12). I think this is happening. Lanky Linc was right. You can fool all the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

]]> by: Doug Hughes http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-512197 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:54:53 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-512197 Swami - The man behind the curtain is all the multi-national corporations who cut themsleves a perpetually larger slice of the American pie, while Americans get ever less.They are not Democrats; they are not Republicans Did you notice that the telecoms have managed to convert the Democrats to their cause? Amnesty for illegal surveylance, and they made a buck; you can bet. According to Glenn Gereenwald, all the top tier Dems favor an expanded military.Dem or Rep; deos not matter; just keep buying war stuff. What's the trend on oil prices (and profits)? Seen any action from Dems? The Drug companies got a dream bill passed at the taxpayers expense. You heard lots of partisan talk. Seen any modification to the bill? Bush and the Dems stand united to keep wages low, by flooding the labor market. The Dems understand but don't CARE what the economics mean, because more po' folks means more Dem voters. Bring on the poverty! Follow the money, Swami. Until business can NOT legally contribute - directly or indirectly - to campaigns we are all part of a grand circus. They allow us the pagentry of hot-button issues that do not affect their profits while they control all the choices on all the profit issues - so they are actually not choices at all. When those on the right and the left realize the extent of the swindle, and unite to thorow out the money-changers from the temple, then you will see democracy. And a lot of fun it will be. Swami - The man behind the curtain is all the multi-national corporations who cut themsleves a perpetually larger slice of the American pie, while Americans get ever less.They are not Democrats; they are not Republicans Did you notice that the telecoms have managed to convert the Democrats to their cause?
Amnesty for illegal surveylance, and they made a buck; you can bet. According to Glenn Gereenwald, all the top tier Dems favor an expanded military.Dem or Rep; deos not matter; just keep buying war stuff. What’s the trend on oil prices (and profits)? Seen any action from Dems? The Drug companies got a dream bill passed at the taxpayers expense. You heard lots of partisan talk. Seen any modification to the bill? Bush and the Dems stand united to keep wages low, by flooding the labor market. The Dems understand but don’t CARE what the economics mean, because more po’ folks means more Dem voters. Bring on the poverty!

Follow the money, Swami. Until business can NOT legally contribute - directly or indirectly - to campaigns we are all part of a grand circus. They allow us the pagentry of hot-button issues that do not affect their profits while they control all the choices on all the profit issues - so they are actually not choices at all.

When those on the right and the left realize the extent of the swindle, and unite to thorow out the money-changers from the temple, then you will see democracy. And a lot of fun it will be.

]]> by: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-511665 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:13:01 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-511665 I'd say the man behind the curtain is unbridled conservatism. It wants to run us like a pack of wilderbeasts, and those who can't keep up with the herd will fall prey to the hyenas. It's the natural order of things..only the strong survive to perpetuate the conserative species. I’d say the man behind the curtain is unbridled conservatism. It wants to run us like a pack of wilderbeasts, and those who can’t keep up with the herd will fall prey to the hyenas. It’s the natural order of things..only the strong survive to perpetuate the conserative species.

]]> by: whig http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-511046 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:42:14 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-511046 Doug Hughes, if there is a man behind the curtains, who is that? Doug Hughes, if there is a man behind the curtains, who is that?

]]> by: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-511001 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:02:55 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2007/12/26/hang-on-tight/#comment-511001 I agree with you Maha that illegal immigration will be a focal point of the Right's campaign strategy in 2008. With the ecomomy headed toward rough seas, the illegal aliens draining our economy will provide the perfect rallying cry for a scapegoat and diversion. It won't take much prompting to unleash misdirected anger to an easily indentifiable target, and I'm sure the Righties will be eager to stir up the illegal immigration nest. I agree with you Maha that illegal immigration will be a focal point of the Right’s campaign strategy in 2008. With the ecomomy headed toward rough seas, the illegal aliens draining our economy will provide the perfect rallying cry for a scapegoat and diversion. It won’t take much prompting to unleash misdirected anger to an easily indentifiable target, and I’m sure the Righties will be eager to stir up the illegal immigration nest.

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