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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521395</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For the past ten years or so, I have watched us look for the &quot;perfect&quot; candidate; and, in doing so missed out on getting a perfectly good candidate.  Let's not lose something good just because it ain't perfect.  This search for perfection and the destruction of human beings because they are not perfect is something I find very disturbing.

Also, I have heard all the candidates speak and none of them remind me of JFK.  I haven't seen a politician since who had the wit, intelligence, and grace that JFK had.  That doesn't mean there aren't any good--and possibly great--candidates out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For the past ten years or so, I have watched us look for the &#8220;perfect&#8221; candidate; and, in doing so missed out on getting a perfectly good candidate.  Let&#8217;s not lose something good just because it ain&#8217;t perfect.  This search for perfection and the destruction of human beings because they are not perfect is something I find very disturbing.</p>
	<p>Also, I have heard all the candidates speak and none of them remind me of JFK.  I haven&#8217;t seen a politician since who had the wit, intelligence, and grace that JFK had.  That doesn&#8217;t mean there aren&#8217;t any good&#8211;and possibly great&#8211;candidates out there.
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		<title>by: Doug Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521332</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A whole lot of the discussion is about the candidates, but the sucsess of Huckabee or Obama is the story about the electorate. Both parties have their talking heads who tell folks what to think and how to vote. Mitt was ordained by the Republicans and Hillory by the Democrats. All the cash and clout was behind those 2 candidates, who the kingmakers have preordained.

The story is that voters from BOTH sides gave the kingmakers the finger, and voted their conscience. Granted, this represents a small percentage of voters in a small state BUT - what if it's not a fluke?

Could we wind up with an election where the main candidates - BOTH of them, are not loyal to the party machines, and won't take their marching orders from Wall Street? It's possible IF the story is truly that the electorate has broken ranks across the spectrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A whole lot of the discussion is about the candidates, but the sucsess of Huckabee or Obama is the story about the electorate. Both parties have their talking heads who tell folks what to think and how to vote. Mitt was ordained by the Republicans and Hillory by the Democrats. All the cash and clout was behind those 2 candidates, who the kingmakers have preordained.</p>
	<p>The story is that voters from BOTH sides gave the kingmakers the finger, and voted their conscience. Granted, this represents a small percentage of voters in a small state BUT - what if it&#8217;s not a fluke?</p>
	<p>Could we wind up with an election where the main candidates - BOTH of them, are not loyal to the party machines, and won&#8217;t take their marching orders from Wall Street? It&#8217;s possible IF the story is truly that the electorate has broken ranks across the spectrum.
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		<title>by: KingGeorgeTheTenth</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521271</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey Moonbat, first of all, what on earth is wrong with a bit of youthful naivety?  As you yourself admit, we don't all have to start out as jaded people!  This may be the nicest day I've had in the last 8 years.  I would suggest that anyone in the world who listens to Senator Obama can not help but just be inspired by his message!  Isn't there still generally a fairly large amount of middle ground in American politics that can be grabbed by an adequate candidate (i.e. someone with a last name that isn't Bush or Clinton)? Didn't John McCain prove that in 2000 (before Bush or Rove killed him in SC)? 

I was born in 1980, a whole 12 years after 1968, the year that killed an entire generation's ideology.  Its been a whole 40 years!  With Obama we can all turn a page on this whole era of killed hope and dreams!  How can anyone not be inspired by this type of opportunity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey Moonbat, first of all, what on earth is wrong with a bit of youthful naivety?  As you yourself admit, we don&#8217;t all have to start out as jaded people!  This may be the nicest day I&#8217;ve had in the last 8 years.  I would suggest that anyone in the world who listens to Senator Obama can not help but just be inspired by his message!  Isn&#8217;t there still generally a fairly large amount of middle ground in American politics that can be grabbed by an adequate candidate (i.e. someone with a last name that isn&#8217;t Bush or Clinton)? Didn&#8217;t John McCain prove that in 2000 (before Bush or Rove killed him in SC)? </p>
	<p>I was born in 1980, a whole 12 years after 1968, the year that killed an entire generation&#8217;s ideology.  Its been a whole 40 years!  With Obama we can all turn a page on this whole era of killed hope and dreams!  How can anyone not be inspired by this type of opportunity?
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		<title>by: erinyes</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521254</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Joanr16,
I've heard the same crap where I work about the closet Muslim deal.WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Joanr16,<br />
I&#8217;ve heard the same crap where I work about the closet Muslim deal.WTF?
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		<title>by: felicity</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521096</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Will be interesting to see if the Repugs can actually create a campaign based on other than 'enemies,' foreign or domestic.  The Bush presidency is based on Good (him) vs Evil (he Decides.)  Limbaugh, Coulter...the hate mongers, define Democrats and the Democratic Party as those who must be hated.  And that's about the sum total of the Repub platform.

Whoever the Repub candidate is, will he continue the platform or have to frantically scramble for an ACTUAL platform.  (Romney ran on, yes it was subtle but there, 'enemy' thing and it got him nowhere.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Will be interesting to see if the Repugs can actually create a campaign based on other than &#8216;enemies,&#8217; foreign or domestic.  The Bush presidency is based on Good (him) vs Evil (he Decides.)  Limbaugh, Coulter&#8230;the hate mongers, define Democrats and the Democratic Party as those who must be hated.  And that&#8217;s about the sum total of the Repub platform.</p>
	<p>Whoever the Repub candidate is, will he continue the platform or have to frantically scramble for an ACTUAL platform.  (Romney ran on, yes it was subtle but there, &#8216;enemy&#8217; thing and it got him nowhere.)
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		<title>by: joanr16</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521067</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My first thought is that if Obama gets the nomination, I'll be forced to listen to 3 or 4 months of my coworkers parroting the right-wing Lie Machine's falsehoods about the senator (he is a closet Muslim, he is hiding bin Laden in his garage, etc.).

I may have to get a plastic spray bottle so I can spritz people in the face with cold water each time they repeat such a lie... the way one does with pets when they're caught nibbling on the poisonous leaves of houseplants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>My first thought is that if Obama gets the nomination, I&#8217;ll be forced to listen to 3 or 4 months of my coworkers parroting the right-wing Lie Machine&#8217;s falsehoods about the senator (he is a closet Muslim, he is hiding bin Laden in his garage, etc.).</p>
	<p>I may have to get a plastic spray bottle so I can spritz people in the face with cold water each time they repeat such a lie&#8230; the way one does with pets when they&#8217;re caught nibbling on the poisonous leaves of houseplants.
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		<title>by: moonbat</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521019</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>BiggerBox, #12, I react the same way to Obama, only I hear JFK not RFK in his speaking (maybe he channels the two brothers on alternating days). And it's unnerving for me to listen to his supporters swoon over his rhetoric - I got quite a few celebratory screenfuls of this last night at DailyKos. They seem very naive.

Truly the youth vote is huge here. I well remember feeling the same way the Obama-philes felt last night, when George McGovern campaigned in 1972, when many of us in the so called &quot;Youth Generation&quot; still had our hearts and minds firmly planted in the eupohoria of the 1960s. Where we in for a surprise when the Republican machine steam rollered our dreams over the next couple of decades. I hope Obama, if he wins, doesn't meet the same fate. And I'd hate to see all those kids become jaded like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>BiggerBox, #12, I react the same way to Obama, only I hear JFK not RFK in his speaking (maybe he channels the two brothers on alternating days). And it&#8217;s unnerving for me to listen to his supporters swoon over his rhetoric - I got quite a few celebratory screenfuls of this last night at DailyKos. They seem very naive.</p>
	<p>Truly the youth vote is huge here. I well remember feeling the same way the Obama-philes felt last night, when George McGovern campaigned in 1972, when many of us in the so called &#8220;Youth Generation&#8221; still had our hearts and minds firmly planted in the eupohoria of the 1960s. Where we in for a surprise when the Republican machine steam rollered our dreams over the next couple of decades. I hope Obama, if he wins, doesn&#8217;t meet the same fate. And I&#8217;d hate to see all those kids become jaded like me.
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		<title>by: moonbat</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521010</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I so hope shamanic is right, a very neat summary.

It'll take quite a few more defeats to sink Team Hillary, which I doubt are in the offing. &quot;The Titanic is unsinkable&quot;. My sad scenario has the three Ds more or less jockeying for first place, with my man Edwards finally expiring from lack of cash. Hillary has the most cash of them all. And lets hope Rudy disqualifies himself with a health problem, while staying near the bottom where his fear mongering belongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I so hope shamanic is right, a very neat summary.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;ll take quite a few more defeats to sink Team Hillary, which I doubt are in the offing. &#8220;The Titanic is unsinkable&#8221;. My sad scenario has the three Ds more or less jockeying for first place, with my man Edwards finally expiring from lack of cash. Hillary has the most cash of them all. And lets hope Rudy disqualifies himself with a health problem, while staying near the bottom where his fear mongering belongs.
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		<title>by: WereBear</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-521004</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am pleased Huck did so well. Truly a case of the R's getting what they said they wished for.

Expect a lot of pearl-clutching as Huck's past misdeeds &quot;suddenly&quot; come to light, because there ain't no way the GOP will let him get away with it, any more than Dean could on the Democratic side.

Because Huck is not that tightly wrapped.

I'm okay with Obama's win, though I hate playing &quot;strategy, or dumbness?&quot; on OUR side with regards to his public soft play on universal health care and energy independence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am pleased Huck did so well. Truly a case of the R&#8217;s getting what they said they wished for.</p>
	<p>Expect a lot of pearl-clutching as Huck&#8217;s past misdeeds &#8220;suddenly&#8221; come to light, because there ain&#8217;t no way the GOP will let him get away with it, any more than Dean could on the Democratic side.</p>
	<p>Because Huck is not that tightly wrapped.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m okay with Obama&#8217;s win, though I hate playing &#8220;strategy, or dumbness?&#8221; on OUR side with regards to his public soft play on universal health care and energy independence.
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		<title>by: biggerbox</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/03/well-well-2/#comment-520972</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>After watching the YouTube of the Obama victory speech, I'd be happy with him as the nominee just as a service to the English language and the art of rhetoric. Man, he can give a good speech, especially after years of listening to W. 

As an angry DFH blogger, I'm favoring Edwards, (who, I'm told, is now &quot;doomed&quot;, despite having beaten the woman the same people were telling me was inevitable all summer). But I must admit that Obama sometimes gets me, in the part of my heart that misses Bobby Kennedy. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a President who at least talks about things that way? Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>After watching the YouTube of the Obama victory speech, I&#8217;d be happy with him as the nominee just as a service to the English language and the art of rhetoric. Man, he can give a good speech, especially after years of listening to W. </p>
	<p>As an angry DFH blogger, I&#8217;m favoring Edwards, (who, I&#8217;m told, is now &#8220;doomed&#8221;, despite having beaten the woman the same people were telling me was inevitable all summer). But I must admit that Obama sometimes gets me, in the part of my heart that misses Bobby Kennedy. Wouldn&#8217;t it be wonderful to have a President who at least talks about things that way? Sigh.
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