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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess there is no other choice.
We all know that clean-up after Bush will be a royal bitch.
I appreciate the debate and content at this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess there is no other choice.<br />
We all know that clean-up after Bush will be a royal bitch.<br />
I appreciate the debate and content at this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t think the country is evil, but I think the leadership has been pretty damned corrupt and the majority of the population distracted and misinformed. 
America is my home and I&#039;m tired of a bunch of asses   that worship money  and power above all  and could care less about humanity trashing the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think the country is evil, but I think the leadership has been pretty damned corrupt and the majority of the population distracted and misinformed.<br />
America is my home and I&#8217;m tired of a bunch of asses   that worship money  and power above all  and could care less about humanity trashing the place.</p>
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		<title>By: c u n d gulag</title>
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		<dc:creator>c u n d gulag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erinyes,
I love what you write.   I think very highly of you.  But I wouldn&#039;t be so hard on these folks.  
Maybe I&#039;m wrong...
 
I am of Russian heritage.  And yes, you are right, their economy would have imploded without our help - just not as quickly...

But we can&#039;t overlook that our country has a hidous track-record over the last 60+ years.  Read Naomi Klein&#039;s &quot;The Shock Doctrine.&quot;  We&#039;ve supported some really evil regime&#039;s - and continue to do so.  

Here&#039;s what I&#039;ve learned:  You can&#039;t expect politician&#039;s to say what you want to hear.  They need to say that which will allow them win. 
And that&#039;s where we&#039;re at.  Right here.  Right now...
Global Corporatism is metalizing.  Dominionism is one Huck&#039;ing election away...
Edward&#039;s, (whom I love) is crying out against it.  Obama is reaching out to stem the tide.  Hillary, too.

Give them time.
Give them room.
Give them a break.
Give the next President a Congress that&#039;s a Democratic majority, and then let&#039;s see what they do.

Who would anyone rather have as President?  Either one of our three, or some Republican twit?  

FDR didn&#039;t run as a &quot;change-agent.&quot;  Neither should any of ours...  They just need to become change-agent&#039;s...  And I think they know that.  

Of course, my biggest fear is that if they run too much against big-business, their &quot;change-agent&quot; may be a bullet.
It happened to Bobby!

The next &quot;Change-Agent&quot; President will have to sound main-stream when running for office.
Maybe I&#039;m wrong.  But the MSM will fight any new idea unless it&#039;s supported by a huge majority.  And, except for the internet, it&#039;s only with the MSM&#039;s help, that any idea&#039;s get known and spread.

We&#039;ll see.  In the meantime, I support whoever is selected on the Democratic side.  No matter what they say now.  13 month&#039;s from now? That may be a different story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erinyes,<br />
I love what you write.   I think very highly of you.  But I wouldn&#8217;t be so hard on these folks.<br />
Maybe I&#8217;m wrong&#8230;</p>
<p>I am of Russian heritage.  And yes, you are right, their economy would have imploded without our help &#8211; just not as quickly&#8230;</p>
<p>But we can&#8217;t overlook that our country has a hidous track-record over the last 60+ years.  Read Naomi Klein&#8217;s &#8220;The Shock Doctrine.&#8221;  We&#8217;ve supported some really evil regime&#8217;s &#8211; and continue to do so.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve learned:  You can&#8217;t expect politician&#8217;s to say what you want to hear.  They need to say that which will allow them win.<br />
And that&#8217;s where we&#8217;re at.  Right here.  Right now&#8230;<br />
Global Corporatism is metalizing.  Dominionism is one Huck&#8217;ing election away&#8230;<br />
Edward&#8217;s, (whom I love) is crying out against it.  Obama is reaching out to stem the tide.  Hillary, too.</p>
<p>Give them time.<br />
Give them room.<br />
Give them a break.<br />
Give the next President a Congress that&#8217;s a Democratic majority, and then let&#8217;s see what they do.</p>
<p>Who would anyone rather have as President?  Either one of our three, or some Republican twit?  </p>
<p>FDR didn&#8217;t run as a &#8220;change-agent.&#8221;  Neither should any of ours&#8230;  They just need to become change-agent&#8217;s&#8230;  And I think they know that.  </p>
<p>Of course, my biggest fear is that if they run too much against big-business, their &#8220;change-agent&#8221; may be a bullet.<br />
It happened to Bobby!</p>
<p>The next &#8220;Change-Agent&#8221; President will have to sound main-stream when running for office.<br />
Maybe I&#8217;m wrong.  But the MSM will fight any new idea unless it&#8217;s supported by a huge majority.  And, except for the internet, it&#8217;s only with the MSM&#8217;s help, that any idea&#8217;s get known and spread.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see.  In the meantime, I support whoever is selected on the Democratic side.  No matter what they say now.  13 month&#8217;s from now? That may be a different story!</p>
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		<title>By: Swami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erinyes...The thing about Obama wanting to keep a limited amount of troops in Iraq is because he is compelled by current political pressures to provide that answer. It&#039;s the minimum that can be said without being the one willing to accept blame for Bush&#039;s mistake by pulling the plug on a trillion dollar plus blunder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erinyes&#8230;The thing about Obama wanting to keep a limited amount of troops in Iraq is because he is compelled by current political pressures to provide that answer. It&#8217;s the minimum that can be said without being the one willing to accept blame for Bush&#8217;s mistake by pulling the plug on a trillion dollar plus blunder.</p>
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maha, you&#039;re right about Richard Clarke, he was thrown in with the others because he was on the list I read.My apoligies to Mr. Clarke and all who read what I wrote.

As for funding the Afghanistan Mujahadeen, it destroyed the Soviet Union, which IMO would have imploded on its own because it was conducting its own  war of Empire in Angola, supporting Castro&#039;s Cuba,stretched thin policing the Soviet Asian Republics, and repressing  its own citizens.Pretty much the path Bush&#039;s America is on. The funding of the mujahadeen caused the deaths of millions of innocents , created a failed state, and ultimately created AlQaida. Cause and effect.
I have numerous failures in my past that &quot;seemed like a good idea at the time&quot;. Good leadership requires critical thinking with the big picture in focus, not knee-jerk reactions.

I don&#039;t think Washington lost interest in Afghanistan, they lost interest in doing business with the Taliban. &quot;Business&quot; is the key word, the Taliban wanted more than Washington and the oil consortium was willing to part with.(google Taliban University of Nebraska)
http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&amp;ddlC=61
It&#039;s all about Money, power, energy resources, and the security of Israel. Same crap, different day.

I just visited John Edward&#039;s website,
His Iraq policy is the same as Obama&#039;s.
This is frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maha, you&#8217;re right about Richard Clarke, he was thrown in with the others because he was on the list I read.My apoligies to Mr. Clarke and all who read what I wrote.</p>
<p>As for funding the Afghanistan Mujahadeen, it destroyed the Soviet Union, which IMO would have imploded on its own because it was conducting its own  war of Empire in Angola, supporting Castro&#8217;s Cuba,stretched thin policing the Soviet Asian Republics, and repressing  its own citizens.Pretty much the path Bush&#8217;s America is on. The funding of the mujahadeen caused the deaths of millions of innocents , created a failed state, and ultimately created AlQaida. Cause and effect.<br />
I have numerous failures in my past that &#8220;seemed like a good idea at the time&#8221;. Good leadership requires critical thinking with the big picture in focus, not knee-jerk reactions.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Washington lost interest in Afghanistan, they lost interest in doing business with the Taliban. &#8220;Business&#8221; is the key word, the Taliban wanted more than Washington and the oil consortium was willing to part with.(google Taliban University of Nebraska)<br />
<a href="http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&amp;ddlC=61" rel="nofollow">http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&amp;ddlC=61</a><br />
It&#8217;s all about Money, power, energy resources, and the security of Israel. Same crap, different day.</p>
<p>I just visited John Edward&#8217;s website,<br />
His Iraq policy is the same as Obama&#8217;s.<br />
This is frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: c u n d gulag</title>
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		<dc:creator>c u n d gulag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erineys and maha,
America has been an evil country for a long time (yes, I know, how un-American of me)!
We have funded both sides against the middle for generations.  And it usually comes to bite us in the ass.
They don&#039;t &quot;hate us for our freedom,&quot; they hate us because we interfere.
We&#039;re slow to learn.

Obama is saying what he has to say.  Like any politician.
And actions speak louder than words. 
I&#039;ll give Obama a chance.  Or Edward&#039;s.  Or even Hillary.
Because, as McCain said, he&#039;d keep the troop&#039;s there for a hundred years.  And Mitt, Fred and Rudy are all spoiling for a fight.  Any fight!!!
I don&#039;t think our folk&#039;s will do that...
And if they do, I&#039;ll hold their feet to the fire - oh wait, that&#039;s torture!!!
I&#039;ll hold them accountable.  What a novel idea THAT is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erineys and maha,<br />
America has been an evil country for a long time (yes, I know, how un-American of me)!<br />
We have funded both sides against the middle for generations.  And it usually comes to bite us in the ass.<br />
They don&#8217;t &#8220;hate us for our freedom,&#8221; they hate us because we interfere.<br />
We&#8217;re slow to learn.</p>
<p>Obama is saying what he has to say.  Like any politician.<br />
And actions speak louder than words.<br />
I&#8217;ll give Obama a chance.  Or Edward&#8217;s.  Or even Hillary.<br />
Because, as McCain said, he&#8217;d keep the troop&#8217;s there for a hundred years.  And Mitt, Fred and Rudy are all spoiling for a fight.  Any fight!!!<br />
I don&#8217;t think our folk&#8217;s will do that&#8230;<br />
And if they do, I&#8217;ll hold their feet to the fire &#8211; oh wait, that&#8217;s torture!!!<br />
I&#8217;ll hold them accountable.  What a novel idea THAT is!</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erinyes -- what&#039;s wrong with Richard Clarke? He&#039;s been a critic of the Bushies from Day One. He was one of the first to stand up and call out Condi et al for not heeding the warnings before 9/11.

As for funding the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, IMO at the time that wasn&#039;t necessarily a bad move. It did do a lot to help bring down the Soviets. The failure was that Washington utterly lost interest in Afghanistan after the Soviets cleared out. We messed up the &quot;endgame,&quot; as someone said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erinyes &#8212; what&#8217;s wrong with Richard Clarke? He&#8217;s been a critic of the Bushies from Day One. He was one of the first to stand up and call out Condi et al for not heeding the warnings before 9/11.</p>
<p>As for funding the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, IMO at the time that wasn&#8217;t necessarily a bad move. It did do a lot to help bring down the Soviets. The failure was that Washington utterly lost interest in Afghanistan after the Soviets cleared out. We messed up the &#8220;endgame,&#8221; as someone said.</p>
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/01/04/questions-3/comment-page-1/#comment-521463</link>
		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Obama&#039;s website, his atated position on Iraq is a gradual reduction in troops, BUT WILL KEEP FORCES PRESENT TO PROTECT OUR EMBASSY AND DIPLOMATS, AND TO COMBAT AL-QAIDA.

I won&#039;t vote for him, same old-same old.The sprawling embassy complex in Iraq IS a bleeping military installation.This word manipulation is of the same type Israel uses when they call land grabs in Palestine &quot;outposts&quot; instead of &quot;settlements&quot;.( The Israelis will not stop their expansion until the last palestinean is on display at the Smithsonian as an endangered species)

Obama&#039;s advisory staff include Richard Clarke, Dennis Ross, and the brainiac that helped create the mess that threatens the entire M.E. and Central Asia, Zbig Brzezinski. Brzezinski, as I recall aided and funded the Afghan Mujahedeen in their fight against the Soviet Union. The Mujahadeen were aided By Pakistan&#039;s ISI, the CIA, Osama Bin Laden, and The Saudi Royals. This Monster morphed into AlQaida which was employed by the Clinton administration in the Balkan war. It appears the AlQaida leadership was screwed over big time after some deals were not honored, hence the events of 9/11.&quot;They&quot; don&#039;t hate our freedom, they hate us becaues they were used and then discarded. This will eventually come to light( along with some disturbing surprises about other involvements).
Our universe is electrical/mechanical, NOT magical.
Cause and effect dominate reality, and the reality is that we cannot continue electing people who will follow the same path while duping the electorate with false hope for change with this good cop/ bad cop charade.
  U.S. foreign policy revolves around 2 things: dominance of the world&#039;s energy supply (so long as the countries involved are weak militarily) and the security of Israel.The U.S acts like a police force, and if another country dares challenge the cop in the least, they will get the crap kicked out of them, first economically, then physically.
 There is NO talk from the opposition party regarding criminal prosecution of Bush/Cheney for their crimes against the citizens of our country,the massive deaths of civilians in  Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Lebanon, and the virtual looting of Iraq&#039;s oil resources..
 A continuation of the same path in Iraq and Afghanistan will spread the conflicts into Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, and throughout the former Soviet Central Asian Republics, which are mostly Muslim and have vast oil, gas,pipeline transit routs, and mineral (gold) deposits.
Bottom line to this rant is we don&#039;t want a continuation of this imperialistic empire crap under a different name. It will crush us just like it crushed the Soviet Union.
The definition of insanity is doing the same crap over and over while expecting different results.
I welcome a debate on these points, PLEASE prove I&#039;m wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Obama&#8217;s website, his atated position on Iraq is a gradual reduction in troops, BUT WILL KEEP FORCES PRESENT TO PROTECT OUR EMBASSY AND DIPLOMATS, AND TO COMBAT AL-QAIDA.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t vote for him, same old-same old.The sprawling embassy complex in Iraq IS a bleeping military installation.This word manipulation is of the same type Israel uses when they call land grabs in Palestine &#8220;outposts&#8221; instead of &#8220;settlements&#8221;.( The Israelis will not stop their expansion until the last palestinean is on display at the Smithsonian as an endangered species)</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s advisory staff include Richard Clarke, Dennis Ross, and the brainiac that helped create the mess that threatens the entire M.E. and Central Asia, Zbig Brzezinski. Brzezinski, as I recall aided and funded the Afghan Mujahedeen in their fight against the Soviet Union. The Mujahadeen were aided By Pakistan&#8217;s ISI, the CIA, Osama Bin Laden, and The Saudi Royals. This Monster morphed into AlQaida which was employed by the Clinton administration in the Balkan war. It appears the AlQaida leadership was screwed over big time after some deals were not honored, hence the events of 9/11.&#8221;They&#8221; don&#8217;t hate our freedom, they hate us becaues they were used and then discarded. This will eventually come to light( along with some disturbing surprises about other involvements).<br />
Our universe is electrical/mechanical, NOT magical.<br />
Cause and effect dominate reality, and the reality is that we cannot continue electing people who will follow the same path while duping the electorate with false hope for change with this good cop/ bad cop charade.<br />
  U.S. foreign policy revolves around 2 things: dominance of the world&#8217;s energy supply (so long as the countries involved are weak militarily) and the security of Israel.The U.S acts like a police force, and if another country dares challenge the cop in the least, they will get the crap kicked out of them, first economically, then physically.<br />
 There is NO talk from the opposition party regarding criminal prosecution of Bush/Cheney for their crimes against the citizens of our country,the massive deaths of civilians in  Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Lebanon, and the virtual looting of Iraq&#8217;s oil resources..<br />
 A continuation of the same path in Iraq and Afghanistan will spread the conflicts into Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, and throughout the former Soviet Central Asian Republics, which are mostly Muslim and have vast oil, gas,pipeline transit routs, and mineral (gold) deposits.<br />
Bottom line to this rant is we don&#8217;t want a continuation of this imperialistic empire crap under a different name. It will crush us just like it crushed the Soviet Union.<br />
The definition of insanity is doing the same crap over and over while expecting different results.<br />
I welcome a debate on these points, PLEASE prove I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: c u n d gulag</title>
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		<dc:creator>c u n d gulag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reaganism is a myth,
He should have been impeached for Iran-Contra.

Huck is the Rovian &quot;Frankenstein&quot; monster of the right.  He is their creation.  &quot;It&#039;s alive!&quot; 
It&#039;s funny, yet scary, to watch the right devolve.  Mitt is their economic wing.  McCain and Rudy, their neo-con war-loving wing.  
And, yet, here comes Huck.  A good-old boy Southerner, who appeals to the racist and Jesus crowd.  Huck, who was supposed to provide the foot-soldier&#039;s, is the one &quot;making hay!&quot;  And they don&#039;t know what to do with him.

The money and war crowd on the right will pull out ALL stops to denigrate the Huckster.
I actually like Huck, the man - he&#039;s funny.  It&#039;s his policies that I detest.

Maybe I&#039;ve lived in the South too long...

Still, it&#039;ll be interesting to watch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reaganism is a myth,<br />
He should have been impeached for Iran-Contra.</p>
<p>Huck is the Rovian &#8220;Frankenstein&#8221; monster of the right.  He is their creation.  &#8220;It&#8217;s alive!&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s funny, yet scary, to watch the right devolve.  Mitt is their economic wing.  McCain and Rudy, their neo-con war-loving wing.<br />
And, yet, here comes Huck.  A good-old boy Southerner, who appeals to the racist and Jesus crowd.  Huck, who was supposed to provide the foot-soldier&#8217;s, is the one &#8220;making hay!&#8221;  And they don&#8217;t know what to do with him.</p>
<p>The money and war crowd on the right will pull out ALL stops to denigrate the Huckster.<br />
I actually like Huck, the man &#8211; he&#8217;s funny.  It&#8217;s his policies that I detest.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ve lived in the South too long&#8230;</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;ll be interesting to watch!</p>
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		<title>By: Swami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Reagan was an actor, but I remember his performance at the memorial service for the soldiers of the 101st Airborne who were killed in the plane crash at Gander Newfoundland, back when. I admired his courage and decency to console the families individually and to look into their eyes to touch their pain— not an easy task. Contrasted against the cowardly George Bush who at best can only utter a feigned emotion of empty words that he somehow weeps and mourns, or even cares... makes Reagan a true leader and an honest man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Reagan was an actor, but I remember his performance at the memorial service for the soldiers of the 101st Airborne who were killed in the plane crash at Gander Newfoundland, back when. I admired his courage and decency to console the families individually and to look into their eyes to touch their pain— not an easy task. Contrasted against the cowardly George Bush who at best can only utter a feigned emotion of empty words that he somehow weeps and mourns, or even cares&#8230; makes Reagan a true leader and an honest man.</p>
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