Comments on: Wisconsin for Obama http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:58:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Madison Guy http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526783 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:09:31 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526783 One reason Obama won by a much larger margin than the polls predicted is that he brought in a lot of new, young voters. I saw that at my polling place, where i voted my mind for Hillary, but my heart was with the kids -- including this exit pollster: <a href="http://letterfromhere.blogspot.com/2008/02/talking-to-different-kind-of-exit.html" rel="nofollow"> Talking to a different kind of exit pollster after casting my vote in the Wisconsin primary.</a> The young woman who interviewed me on a cold Wisconsin night was an Iraq War vet. She wasn't conducting a survey for the media but about the media. One reason Obama won by a much larger margin than the polls predicted is that he brought in a lot of new, young voters. I saw that at my polling place, where i voted my mind for Hillary, but my heart was with the kids — including this exit pollster: Talking to a different kind of exit pollster after casting my vote in the Wisconsin primary. The young woman who interviewed me on a cold Wisconsin night was an Iraq War vet. She wasn’t conducting a survey for the media but about the media.

]]> by: Steve M. http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526772 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:24:00 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526772 If we wanted someone with an overstuffed résumé, shouldn't we have thought of that when Biden and Richardson were still in the race? If we wanted someone with an overstuffed résumé, shouldn’t we have thought of that when Biden and Richardson were still in the race?

]]> by: Chief http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526766 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:44:03 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526766 This is more than a one issue campaign. As much as I would dearly love to see a single payer health care system, I much, much more want to see a Democrat as POTUS on 21 Jan 09. I think that both Clinton &#38; Obama can offer far more than McCain. Either Dem will do more to heal the country than a continuation of the present regime. This is more than a one issue campaign. As much as I would dearly love to see a single payer health care system, I much, much more want to see a Democrat as POTUS on 21 Jan 09. I think that both Clinton & Obama can offer far more than McCain. Either Dem will do more to heal the country than a continuation of the present regime.

]]> by: uncledad http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526762 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:17:51 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526762 Maha: It's over, Hillary's speech last night was very wingnutish, she is being advised to go negative and scare all of us into voting for her, it aint gonna work. This will be the same tactic that McCain will use in the general, it may work there, but it won't work on democratic only voters. Hillary is toast, she has lost 10 primaries in a row and according to most talking heads she will need to win all remaining states that she has a chance in by 65%, aint gonna happen. Some Wisconsin numbers that must suck for the republicans: Hillary lost and got more votes, 453,774, than all the republican candidates combined, 403,472! Democratic total votes in Wisconsin, 1,099,652, that’s almost 3 times the republican totals, ouch! Maha:

It’s over, Hillary’s speech last night was very wingnutish, she is being advised to go negative and scare all of us into voting for her, it aint gonna work. This will be the same tactic that McCain will use in the general, it may work there, but it won’t work on democratic only voters. Hillary is toast, she has lost 10 primaries in a row and according to most talking heads she will need to win all remaining states that she has a chance in by 65%, aint gonna happen.

Some Wisconsin numbers that must suck for the republicans:

Hillary lost and got more votes, 453,774, than all the republican candidates combined, 403,472!

Democratic total votes in Wisconsin, 1,099,652, that’s almost 3 times the republican totals, ouch!

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526756 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:50:43 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526756 Pug -- exactly. Insulting my intelligence is a sure-fire way to get me to change my mind. Not. Pug — exactly. Insulting my intelligence is a sure-fire way to get me to change my mind. Not.

]]> by: Pug http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526753 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:14:59 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526753 <i>Typical of most Obama supporters. He makes them “feel good.”</i> You pretty much captured everything about Obama supporters like me with that one, hettiemae. I've been completely sucked in and I'm just an automaton who is so happy I have finally found a cult I can join and an empty-suit Messiah I can follow. Other than that, in real life, I'm just a simple, gullible CFO kind of guy. The spin, it's not working. Typical of most Obama supporters. He makes them “feel good.”

You pretty much captured everything about Obama supporters like me with that one, hettiemae. I’ve been completely sucked in and I’m just an automaton who is so happy I have finally found a cult I can join and an empty-suit Messiah I can follow.

Other than that, in real life, I’m just a simple, gullible CFO kind of guy. The spin, it’s not working.

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526751 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:55:10 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526751 Scott -- Yes, the "Reagan Democrats" were white blue-collar workers who were duped into voting for Reagan by his stories about black "welfare queens" driving Cadillacs. Back in 1980 racism is what defined them, more than anything else. Permalink to the digby post: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/they-arent-democrats-by-digby-there-has.html Scott — Yes, the “Reagan Democrats” were white blue-collar workers who were duped into voting for Reagan by his stories about black “welfare queens” driving Cadillacs. Back in 1980 racism is what defined them, more than anything else.

Permalink to the digby post:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/they-arent-democrats-by-digby-there-has.html

]]> by: scott http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526749 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:15:16 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526749 Um, speaking of differences, I had one with you a week or so ago about low-information voters and whether they're motivated by racism, at least partially, and I guess I have to apologize after reading this post by Digby ("They Aren't Democrats") about the motives of some real live "Reagan Democrat" types in Ohio. Interesting reading which supports your thesis, so credit where credit is due. http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/ Um, speaking of differences, I had one with you a week or so ago about low-information voters and whether they’re motivated by racism, at least partially, and I guess I have to apologize after reading this post by Digby (”They Aren’t Democrats”) about the motives of some real live “Reagan Democrat” types in Ohio. Interesting reading which supports your thesis, so credit where credit is due. http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526747 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:24:57 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526747 #2 -- I saw that last night. Now, hettiemae, name Clinton's legislative accomplishments. Come back when you've got the list. Please note also that I don't mind commenters who give reasons to support Clinton over Obama. Clinton has some strengths and policy ideas that beat Obama's. But don't come here and hector us and call us idiots ever again, or I might get annoyed and ban you. OK? Final warning. #2 — I saw that last night. Now, hettiemae, name Clinton’s legislative accomplishments. Come back when you’ve got the list.

Please note also that I don’t mind commenters who give reasons to support Clinton over Obama. Clinton has some strengths and policy ideas that beat Obama’s. But don’t come here and hector us and call us idiots ever again, or I might get annoyed and ban you. OK? Final warning.

]]> by: hettiemae http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526744 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:25:10 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/19/wisconsin-for-obama/#comment-526744 Taylor Marsh has a video of a legislator from Texas who supports Obama but cannot name one accompishment of Obama's. Typical of most Obama supporters. He makes them "feel good." Lord help us. Will we all have to join Oprah's book club? By the way, didn't she fall for an author who was also a phony and a crook? Taylor Marsh has a video of a legislator from Texas who supports Obama but cannot name one accompishment of Obama’s. Typical of most Obama supporters. He makes them “feel good.” Lord help us. Will we all have to join Oprah’s book club? By the way, didn’t she fall for an author who was also a phony and a crook?

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