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		<title>By: grannyeagle</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/29/boo/comment-page-1/#comment-527426</link>
		<dc:creator>grannyeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I confess,  I am a young 68.  Don&#039;t remember FDR.  I was young when Truman was president.  I recall liking him because he resembled my father physically.  I think it was mainly the glasses.  JFK was the first president I voted for and even though his presidency was short, he was my favorite.  Of course, I did not know about all his faults at that time and if he had lived, I might have been disillusioned.  I think Clinton was a fairly good president and perhaps he could have done a lot more if he had not been preoccupied with other matters.

Today, the times are different and I am putting my &quot;hope&quot; in Obama.  As Maha says, if he gets in, he may disappoint us all.  However, at age 68, I think I can handle it.  In any case, the higher powers take care of all these things most of the time and I don&#039;t have to worry my pretty little old head about it.

By the way, it&#039;s grannyeagle, not granny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I confess,  I am a young 68.  Don&#8217;t remember FDR.  I was young when Truman was president.  I recall liking him because he resembled my father physically.  I think it was mainly the glasses.  JFK was the first president I voted for and even though his presidency was short, he was my favorite.  Of course, I did not know about all his faults at that time and if he had lived, I might have been disillusioned.  I think Clinton was a fairly good president and perhaps he could have done a lot more if he had not been preoccupied with other matters.</p>
<p>Today, the times are different and I am putting my &#8220;hope&#8221; in Obama.  As Maha says, if he gets in, he may disappoint us all.  However, at age 68, I think I can handle it.  In any case, the higher powers take care of all these things most of the time and I don&#8217;t have to worry my pretty little old head about it.</p>
<p>By the way, it&#8217;s grannyeagle, not granny.</p>
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		<title>By: Swami</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/29/boo/comment-page-1/#comment-527397</link>
		<dc:creator>Swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granny..If I remember correctly didn&#039;t you mention your age once before in a comment to this blog. And if my memory serves me correctly of you being a septuagenarian than it&#039;s feasable that FDR might qualify as a president during your young adulthood. My apologies if I mistakenly put more years on you than you are willing to bear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granny..If I remember correctly didn&#8217;t you mention your age once before in a comment to this blog. And if my memory serves me correctly of you being a septuagenarian than it&#8217;s feasable that FDR might qualify as a president during your young adulthood. My apologies if I mistakenly put more years on you than you are willing to bear.</p>
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		<title>By: biggerbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggerbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard a bit of that ad, and I thought, uh, gee, but isn&#039;t McCain the one of the three that best fits the description &quot;someone knows the world’s leaders, knows the military, someone tested and ready to lead&quot;? 

Like so many of Clinton&#039;s stances, this one only works if you already believe in what she&#039;s asserting. But the idea that Clinton &quot;knows the military&quot; doesn&#039;t seem obvious to me. What&#039;s the evidence? She&#039;s not a veteran. And exactly which 3am world crises has she personally handled? I don&#039;t recall any. 

I realize that living through the GOP assault and Monica was damn hard, but I think a lot of people would say North Vietnamese torture has it beat on the list of life&#039;s &#039;tests&#039;.

Again I&#039;m left with the feeling that the Clinton campaign is drinking too much of its own kool-aid, a quality I find unappealing in a presidential campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a bit of that ad, and I thought, uh, gee, but isn&#8217;t McCain the one of the three that best fits the description &#8220;someone knows the world’s leaders, knows the military, someone tested and ready to lead&#8221;? </p>
<p>Like so many of Clinton&#8217;s stances, this one only works if you already believe in what she&#8217;s asserting. But the idea that Clinton &#8220;knows the military&#8221; doesn&#8217;t seem obvious to me. What&#8217;s the evidence? She&#8217;s not a veteran. And exactly which 3am world crises has she personally handled? I don&#8217;t recall any. </p>
<p>I realize that living through the GOP assault and Monica was damn hard, but I think a lot of people would say North Vietnamese torture has it beat on the list of life&#8217;s &#8216;tests&#8217;.</p>
<p>Again I&#8217;m left with the feeling that the Clinton campaign is drinking too much of its own kool-aid, a quality I find unappealing in a presidential campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granny - you&#039;d have to go back to Harry Truman - can&#039;t give ya LBJ (downside greater than the upside though a great president in the larger sense) or even JFK (alas, too short).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granny &#8211; you&#8217;d have to go back to Harry Truman &#8211; can&#8217;t give ya LBJ (downside greater than the upside though a great president in the larger sense) or even JFK (alas, too short).</p>
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		<title>By: grannyeagle</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/29/boo/comment-page-1/#comment-527380</link>
		<dc:creator>grannyeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment #3:

Perhaps Bill Clinton was the best president in your adult lifetime but not in mine.  Don&#039;t forget about us oldies but goodies.</description>
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<p>Perhaps Bill Clinton was the best president in your adult lifetime but not in mine.  Don&#8217;t forget about us oldies but goodies.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Will the scare tactics scare voters to Clinton or....&quot;

I think you have to say no. The voters who have signed on to Clinton are likely to stay in that camp; likewise Obama&#039;s camp. The positions of each candidate are similar; there is no knockout on issues. Suppose Tuesday goes down as the polls show. 

A tie in Texas, splitting the delegate count there, a narrow win for Clinton in Ohio; she picks up a few delegates. Obama ahead in VT &amp; RI for bragging rights. Bottom line: Obama will be ahead in the delegate count by 100 total, 150 in pledged (earned) delegates. 

Primaries after Tues. are going to be meaningless; Clinton can make a lot of noise about PA, the last big delegate state, but there&#039;s not 100 delegates to be had as long as they proportionately split. All the delegates in all the remaining states could not put either candidate over 2025. 

What options are there?

Clinton could decide to bow out gracefully.

Clinton could force the issue on FL &amp; IL. Though I usually consider stupidity to be a comodity in endlesss supply, I do not think party leaders would sanction a blatent act of larceny when the result would bitterly split the party that could otherwise exit the convention united.The only compromise would be a caucus in those states, which I doubt Clinton would agree to because Obama excels in that format.

The party leaders could force an understanding in advance of the convention if they have enough influence with superdelegates.

The whole thing could go to the convention floor, with the decision in question until every vote is tallied there. 

If anyone sees a different option, I want to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Will the scare tactics scare voters to Clinton or&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you have to say no. The voters who have signed on to Clinton are likely to stay in that camp; likewise Obama&#8217;s camp. The positions of each candidate are similar; there is no knockout on issues. Suppose Tuesday goes down as the polls show. </p>
<p>A tie in Texas, splitting the delegate count there, a narrow win for Clinton in Ohio; she picks up a few delegates. Obama ahead in VT &amp; RI for bragging rights. Bottom line: Obama will be ahead in the delegate count by 100 total, 150 in pledged (earned) delegates. </p>
<p>Primaries after Tues. are going to be meaningless; Clinton can make a lot of noise about PA, the last big delegate state, but there&#8217;s not 100 delegates to be had as long as they proportionately split. All the delegates in all the remaining states could not put either candidate over 2025. </p>
<p>What options are there?</p>
<p>Clinton could decide to bow out gracefully.</p>
<p>Clinton could force the issue on FL &amp; IL. Though I usually consider stupidity to be a comodity in endlesss supply, I do not think party leaders would sanction a blatent act of larceny when the result would bitterly split the party that could otherwise exit the convention united.The only compromise would be a caucus in those states, which I doubt Clinton would agree to because Obama excels in that format.</p>
<p>The party leaders could force an understanding in advance of the convention if they have enough influence with superdelegates.</p>
<p>The whole thing could go to the convention floor, with the decision in question until every vote is tallied there. </p>
<p>If anyone sees a different option, I want to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: joanr16</title>
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		<dc:creator>joanr16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Who do you want answering the phone?” the ad concludes.

I’d vote for the Dalai Lama, but he’s not running for president.&lt;/i&gt;

I picture an albino Elvis-y snarl on Putin&#039;s face if at 3 a.m. McCain answered, &quot;Ahoy-hoy,&quot; in the manner of C. Montgomery Burns.

Because by now it&#039;s starting to seem like that&#039;s what Clinton really wants.

&lt;i&gt;Dionne compares what is happening in the Democratic Party now with what happened in the Republican Party in 1980.&lt;/i&gt;

So we&#039;re the 1980 Republicans, and they&#039;re the 1968 Democrats?  We are so gonna kick their asses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Who do you want answering the phone?” the ad concludes.</p>
<p>I’d vote for the Dalai Lama, but he’s not running for president.</i></p>
<p>I picture an albino Elvis-y snarl on Putin&#8217;s face if at 3 a.m. McCain answered, &#8220;Ahoy-hoy,&#8221; in the manner of C. Montgomery Burns.</p>
<p>Because by now it&#8217;s starting to seem like that&#8217;s what Clinton really wants.</p>
<p><i>Dionne compares what is happening in the Democratic Party now with what happened in the Republican Party in 1980.</i></p>
<p>So we&#8217;re the 1980 Republicans, and they&#8217;re the 1968 Democrats?  We are so gonna kick their asses.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/02/29/boo/comment-page-1/#comment-527370</link>
		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bill Clinton was the best president of our adult lifetimes&lt;/i&gt;

He was, but he had piss-poor competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bill Clinton was the best president of our adult lifetimes</i></p>
<p>He was, but he had piss-poor competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Swami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll gravitate toward hope with uncertainty before I embrace assurances fostered from fear.

And I can&#039;t tell you how repulsive it is to hear John McCain spouting his, &quot; they want to wave the white flag of surrender&quot; bullshit. What an insult to creative thinking and to the world of hope and possibility. He precludes by way of his crippled mindset any possibility for hope of a better tomorrow. And Hillary is not far behind him, my friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll gravitate toward hope with uncertainty before I embrace assurances fostered from fear.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t tell you how repulsive it is to hear John McCain spouting his, &#8221; they want to wave the white flag of surrender&#8221; bullshit. What an insult to creative thinking and to the world of hope and possibility. He precludes by way of his crippled mindset any possibility for hope of a better tomorrow. And Hillary is not far behind him, my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there Maha, but Bill Clinton was the best president of our adult lifetimes....it&#039;s horrid the way people throw the word &quot;Republican&quot; around in this race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there Maha, but Bill Clinton was the best president of our adult lifetimes&#8230;.it&#8217;s horrid the way people throw the word &#8220;Republican&#8221; around in this race.</p>
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