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		<title>By: felicity</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/03/the-poison-of-certainty/comment-page-1/#comment-527620</link>
		<dc:creator>felicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU MAHA.  It&#039;s been said that it&#039;s not so much what Obama is, it&#039;s what he isn&#039;t that attracts voters.  I have no background in logic, but how can one be for, or attracted to an &#039;isn&#039;t?  Might be an example of a  &#039;mental sensation&#039;? 

The Clintons are masters in the art of self-deception, probably as good at it as George.  The effects over the last 7 years of such a personality at the helm should sound alarm bells before voting the Clintons back into office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU MAHA.  It&#8217;s been said that it&#8217;s not so much what Obama is, it&#8217;s what he isn&#8217;t that attracts voters.  I have no background in logic, but how can one be for, or attracted to an &#8216;isn&#8217;t?  Might be an example of a  &#8216;mental sensation&#8217;? </p>
<p>The Clintons are masters in the art of self-deception, probably as good at it as George.  The effects over the last 7 years of such a personality at the helm should sound alarm bells before voting the Clintons back into office.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reasons for coming around to Obama are a lot like mine -- thanks for putting the case so well.  

That and the war -- reading &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080121/berman&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; about the candidates&#039; foreign policy teams a while back gave me the sense of a real difference.  It makes me fear that &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.nysun.com/article/72209&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this story&lt;/a&gt; in today&#039;s &lt;i&gt;New York Sun&lt;/i&gt; (which is getting zero attention) is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reasons for coming around to Obama are a lot like mine &#8212; thanks for putting the case so well.  </p>
<p>That and the war &#8212; reading <a HREF="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080121/berman" rel="nofollow">this article</a> about the candidates&#8217; foreign policy teams a while back gave me the sense of a real difference.  It makes me fear that <a HREF="http://www.nysun.com/article/72209" rel="nofollow">this story</a> in today&#8217;s <i>New York Sun</i> (which is getting zero attention) is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Swami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it&#039;s honesty.  The difference between what I see and what I hear.

 The other day Hillary had a post up on the Huffington Post. She expressed her undying love and selfless devotion for the welfare of children in her 35 years of service to the public. One commenter to her post pointed out in a particularly indicting  and well documented manner the inconsistencies between her words and her actions in regard to the invasion of Iraq, the containment of cluster bombs through legislation, the use of phosphorus in Fallujah, her un-questioned support for Israel in their tactics in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories, and her continued support for funding the war in Iraq. Her Rose law firm and corporate pursuits?
 When you look at those issues mentioned above in the light of really caring for children, who truly suffer as a result of those issues..Hillary doesn&#039;t appear to be the friend of children she claims to be.

For me, she&#039;s talking out both sides of her mouth, and it doesn&#039;t draw me to her. She comes across as a panderer, and I have difficulty putting my trust and faith in her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it&#8217;s honesty.  The difference between what I see and what I hear.</p>
<p> The other day Hillary had a post up on the Huffington Post. She expressed her undying love and selfless devotion for the welfare of children in her 35 years of service to the public. One commenter to her post pointed out in a particularly indicting  and well documented manner the inconsistencies between her words and her actions in regard to the invasion of Iraq, the containment of cluster bombs through legislation, the use of phosphorus in Fallujah, her un-questioned support for Israel in their tactics in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories, and her continued support for funding the war in Iraq. Her Rose law firm and corporate pursuits?<br />
 When you look at those issues mentioned above in the light of really caring for children, who truly suffer as a result of those issues..Hillary doesn&#8217;t appear to be the friend of children she claims to be.</p>
<p>For me, she&#8217;s talking out both sides of her mouth, and it doesn&#8217;t draw me to her. She comes across as a panderer, and I have difficulty putting my trust and faith in her.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, Lucy just got banned for whining that Obama supporters are mean to her. The fact that she&#039;s being an obnoxious, insulting ass is, of course, not the reason Obama supporters are mean to her.

I swear, way too many Clinton people absolutely cannot see themselves at all. Utterly oblivious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, Lucy just got banned for whining that Obama supporters are mean to her. The fact that she&#8217;s being an obnoxious, insulting ass is, of course, not the reason Obama supporters are mean to her.</p>
<p>I swear, way too many Clinton people absolutely cannot see themselves at all. Utterly oblivious.</p>
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		<title>By: grannyeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>grannyeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this post has evoked so many reactions in my brain, emotions and gut that I just have to express my views.  I am usually shy about this because diplomacy is not my strong suit.  However, I have a new puppy and he is definitely bringing me &quot;down to earth&quot;.

I have mentioned before that I spent 25+ years as a psych nurse.  Today, I am retired from nursing and spend my time as an acupuncturist and hypnotherapist.  In addition, I have explored other mysteries of life. I mention this not to bore you but to give you an idea where I&#039;m coming from.

Certainty, emotions, gut feelings.  How do humans make decisions?  I have long felt we do not make decisions entirely rationally no matter how much we praise ourselves for our intelligence.  It would be ideal if we could maintain a balance between thinking and feeling.  You know, the balance of yin/yang.  The problem is that it rarely happens and I personally believe a lot of how we make decisions is based on &quot;how we feel&quot;.  I don&#039;t know if this is what Dr. Burton means by a sense of certainty or not.

I also believe there is a way of knowing that comes from the higher forces.  My spiritual beliefs are eclectic so you can interpret higher forces however you want.  

  I support Obama because he evokes a feeling in me that he is sincere and he truly wants to do what is best for the country.  And I am not a flag-waving patriot nor a bible-thumper.  I do not think Clinton would be a bad president but she is trying too hard to do it &quot;the male way&quot;. If she could truly let her hair down and be a woman, I would have more faith in her because I feel we need a more yin attitude in the government.  But they would really tear her apart if she did that.  Also, as for fighting on if she does not win big today, why not?  Why should she do what is best &quot;for the party&quot; unless she believes that what is best for the country is to elect a Democrat. Perhaps she truly believes she is the best person for the job.  That seems a little egotistical to me but then she is a politician.  I definitely do not want McCain because all he can think about is war and military.  We get what we focus on and I want to focus on something besides &quot;winning, completing the mission and never surrendering&quot;.

As for Obama&#039;s followers being young, idealistic and passionate, I say more power to them.  It is time to focus on something besides war, war, war.  How can we ever have peace when all we think about is war?  We need someone who can turn this country around and travel in a different direction.  It&#039;s true, Obama cannot do it by himself and I realize he will encounter a lot of opposition but if he has the people behind him, maybe, just maybe his dream and mine can come true.  I&#039;m willing to take the chance.  There&#039;s an old saying that it&#039;s okay to have your head in the clouds as long as your feet are planted firmly on mother earth.  If we don&#039;t dream, how can we ever realize anything?

I apologize for rambling on.  I am usually a woman of few words.  But like I said, I have a new puppy and my whole routine is disrupted and I am sleep deprived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this post has evoked so many reactions in my brain, emotions and gut that I just have to express my views.  I am usually shy about this because diplomacy is not my strong suit.  However, I have a new puppy and he is definitely bringing me &#8220;down to earth&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have mentioned before that I spent 25+ years as a psych nurse.  Today, I am retired from nursing and spend my time as an acupuncturist and hypnotherapist.  In addition, I have explored other mysteries of life. I mention this not to bore you but to give you an idea where I&#8217;m coming from.</p>
<p>Certainty, emotions, gut feelings.  How do humans make decisions?  I have long felt we do not make decisions entirely rationally no matter how much we praise ourselves for our intelligence.  It would be ideal if we could maintain a balance between thinking and feeling.  You know, the balance of yin/yang.  The problem is that it rarely happens and I personally believe a lot of how we make decisions is based on &#8220;how we feel&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t know if this is what Dr. Burton means by a sense of certainty or not.</p>
<p>I also believe there is a way of knowing that comes from the higher forces.  My spiritual beliefs are eclectic so you can interpret higher forces however you want.  </p>
<p>  I support Obama because he evokes a feeling in me that he is sincere and he truly wants to do what is best for the country.  And I am not a flag-waving patriot nor a bible-thumper.  I do not think Clinton would be a bad president but she is trying too hard to do it &#8220;the male way&#8221;. If she could truly let her hair down and be a woman, I would have more faith in her because I feel we need a more yin attitude in the government.  But they would really tear her apart if she did that.  Also, as for fighting on if she does not win big today, why not?  Why should she do what is best &#8220;for the party&#8221; unless she believes that what is best for the country is to elect a Democrat. Perhaps she truly believes she is the best person for the job.  That seems a little egotistical to me but then she is a politician.  I definitely do not want McCain because all he can think about is war and military.  We get what we focus on and I want to focus on something besides &#8220;winning, completing the mission and never surrendering&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for Obama&#8217;s followers being young, idealistic and passionate, I say more power to them.  It is time to focus on something besides war, war, war.  How can we ever have peace when all we think about is war?  We need someone who can turn this country around and travel in a different direction.  It&#8217;s true, Obama cannot do it by himself and I realize he will encounter a lot of opposition but if he has the people behind him, maybe, just maybe his dream and mine can come true.  I&#8217;m willing to take the chance.  There&#8217;s an old saying that it&#8217;s okay to have your head in the clouds as long as your feet are planted firmly on mother earth.  If we don&#8217;t dream, how can we ever realize anything?</p>
<p>I apologize for rambling on.  I am usually a woman of few words.  But like I said, I have a new puppy and my whole routine is disrupted and I am sleep deprived.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzy L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lizzy L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish folks who support Clinton, such as Lucy, above, would stop making assumptions about who supports Obama, and why. I am 62 years old and a woman, no political novice, and I support Obama for many of the reasons Maha laid out, plus others. This &quot;experience&quot; narrative is nonsense. The least experienced President in our history was one A. Lincoln.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish folks who support Clinton, such as Lucy, above, would stop making assumptions about who supports Obama, and why. I am 62 years old and a woman, no political novice, and I support Obama for many of the reasons Maha laid out, plus others. This &#8220;experience&#8221; narrative is nonsense. The least experienced President in our history was one A. Lincoln.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SteveG -- he&#039;s talking about the sensation of certainty rather than about actually knowing stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveG &#8212; he&#8217;s talking about the sensation of certainty rather than about actually knowing stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Feeling correct or certain isn’t a deliberate conclusion or conscious choice. It is a mental sensation that happens to us.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

He seems pretty certain of this....based on evidence...not to say he isn&#039;t right, but I do love me some irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Feeling correct or certain isn’t a deliberate conclusion or conscious choice. It is a mental sensation that happens to us.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>He seems pretty certain of this&#8230;.based on evidence&#8230;not to say he isn&#8217;t right, but I do love me some irony.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucy -- I don&#039;t mind your expressing a preference for Clinton, but if you ever again issue wholesale insults to Obama supporters you will be banned from commenting on this blog. 

&lt;i&gt;and make way for the ” new kid on the block ” …. why?&lt;/i&gt;

Because he&#039;s getting more votes. This is a democracy, not a monarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucy &#8212; I don&#8217;t mind your expressing a preference for Clinton, but if you ever again issue wholesale insults to Obama supporters you will be banned from commenting on this blog. </p>
<p><i>and make way for the ” new kid on the block ” …. why?</i></p>
<p>Because he&#8217;s getting more votes. This is a democracy, not a monarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gun Toting Liberal™</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gun Toting Liberal™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rush Limbaugh Urges Listeners To Vote For Hillary Clinton&lt;/strong&gt;

Former Republican And Wall-Mart Director Gets Unexpected Endorsement From Draft Dodging, Far Right Shock Jock
Today is the big day in Texas for Sir Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Her very survival depends upon winning the Democratic primary there, which may ...</description>
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<p>Former Republican And Wall-Mart Director Gets Unexpected Endorsement From Draft Dodging, Far Right Shock Jock<br />
Today is the big day in Texas for Sir Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Her very survival depends upon winning the Democratic primary there, which may &#8230;</p>
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