Comments on: Oh, Please

by: maha

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:29:16 +0000

tonto — You won’t be missed.

by: joanr16

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:20:06 +0000

I’ve been mostly staying away from dKos, too, at least until the freakin’ nomination is decided. But I did notice that the Hillary supporters have been strangely silent lately… now I know why.

Their strike is actually a blessed relief. There’s room on dKos now for diaries about the economy, and FISA, and Congressional candidates with a shot at unseating the real bad guys.

by: tonto

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:10:52 +0000

I used to visit this site often but lately, I’ve decided to not visit any sites that are either for ‘Hussein Obama’ or ‘Hitlery Clinton’. Tired of the rancor. I’ll be visiting again once the nomination is wrapped up.

by: Swami

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:13:30 +0000

I knew I didn’t really know the context well enough to judge whether they were whining or were making some substantial points.

Anon..a substantial point would be that a strike might be effective in the exchange of goods and services, but in the exchange of ideas, a strike is insanity..whining if you will. Maha has spoken before about the challenge to articulate and the difficulty presented in expressing thoughts. Hillary’s supporters have to dig a little deeper in their expression to try to convince Obama supporters what it is in Hillary that we should see in her that would make us believers in her.
A strike tends to make me think they are quiting in frustration because Hillary doesn’t have enough positive qualities to showcase or defend.

by: maha

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:09:43 +0000

anon — The fact remains that if someone were banned without warning or explanation by the administrators, you’d probably never know they were banned. Banning someone does not necessarily entail scrubbing old comments. I ban people all the time (see comments rules) but I never scrub old comments unless I am asked to.

I don’t know personally if Ken was banned or not, but I’m not calling him a liar without knowing differently.

Regarding the whining, the whining post was self-evident whining.

by: Bill H

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:35:39 +0000

I’ve coined a phrase for it. At least I think I have, someone undoubtedly will point me to a few places that it’s already been used. (I invent things all the time and then canvas stores to find out how many are already selling my invention.) Anyway, these people suffer from “Reverse Clinton Derangement Syndrome” or RCDS.

by: anon

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:28:35 +0000

Maha,

I rarely read Kos myself, I read the post you linked to, (I am genius enough to know how to click on a link). I read it, but since I don’t read Kos on more than a weekly basis, and since I am not familiar with the diarist, I knew I didn’t really know the context well enough to judge whether they were whining or were making some substantial points.

You’re right that on many blogs people are banned outright and their comments scrubbed or deleted, but I’ve never seen that at TL.

Regarding Jeralyn Merritt OR BTD, I have never seen them even delete a comment without either a) reminding everyone in the thread to keep the comments on topic, or b) explaining that they just deleted a comment, and explaining why. During the Duke trial, Jeralyn would on occasion remind people that part of her comment policy was that non-regulars/first timers and some others should keep themselves to three comments per day. That was when she was on a slower server too, and like you, she pays for bandwidth and processor. And I haven’t seen her even bring that policy up in more than a year, or since she moved to a faster server.

In contrast, I have never ever seen her mention deleting any comment regarding Obama or Clinton except comments that she felt were libelous and smears.

At TL, everyone HAS to login to post, and the community is relatively small, so if Ken tells me what his username is there, we can examine all of the comments he has ever submitted (except for ones that were deleted) and we can examine the replies. I would be astonished to find that Ken has no replies from TL warning him on his posts or his banning.

Everyday there are many people at TL that post pro Obama and pro McCain comments. I’ve never seen a single of those comments deleted or mention of any poster being banned.

As I’ve suggested, I believe it should be relatively easy for Ken to provide support for his claim.

by: maha

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:22:38 +0000

anon — I linked to the post they whine in, genius. Also, most of the time there’s no “documentation” involved in getting banned from a blog.

by: c u n d gulag

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:44:42 +0000

I lost a lot of respect for HRC when she channeled John McCain on experience - and threw Obama under the bus.
Hillary, your husband had zero experience when he took office. And your experience told you to support the AUMF. And let’s not even mention Iran… That kind of experience, we don’t need.
I’ll still support her if she’s the nominee. But I’ll hold my nose when calling, knocking on doors, or giving money.
Obama ain’t perfect, but he’s a lot more palatable than HRC. A lot! Sorry if the truth hurt’s, Hillary fans…

by: anon

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:49:06 +0000

Hi Ken,

With respect, can you document you were banned from TalkLeft? I find it hard to believe you as I have never ever seen anyone banned from TalkLeft, and I have been reading and commenting there for two or three years now. Would you please link to any posts in which you were warned, or any posts that document your banning?

Also Maha, your basic post makes no sense whatsoever. You don’t normally read Kos, but you are certain the “strikers” are whining? Huh?