Comments on: The Threat http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Sat, 17 May 2008 05:38:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: mikefromtexas http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529167 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:43:58 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529167 I think were seeing the DLC fighting for their political and financial lives. Who in their right mind would ever hire Mark Penn after this? I also read somewhere that one of his partners is quitting his firm and going to work for McCain. I think were seeing the DLC fighting for their political and financial lives. Who in their right mind would ever hire Mark Penn after this? I also read somewhere that one of his partners is quitting his firm and going to work for McCain.

]]> by: Kevin Hayden http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529132 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:57:45 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529132 It's amazing to me since I see two centrists, both progressive on human rights, with very few notable distinctions between them (the AUMF vote the chief one). And while younger voters are expressing understandable passion and some naivete for Obama, the Clinton supporters going off the rails are often seasoned voters, veterans of many elective races, and they're trying to convince people that Obama is the anti-christ. Get a grip sums it up perfectly. It's not the candidates i find stunning or puzzling, but the activists displaying symptoms of spongiform encephalopathy. It’s amazing to me since I see two centrists, both progressive on human rights, with very few notable distinctions between them (the AUMF vote the chief one). And while younger voters are expressing understandable passion and some naivete for Obama, the Clinton supporters going off the rails are often seasoned voters, veterans of many elective races, and they’re trying to convince people that Obama is the anti-christ.

Get a grip sums it up perfectly. It’s not the candidates i find stunning or puzzling, but the activists displaying symptoms of spongiform encephalopathy.

]]> by: erinyes http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529048 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:51:59 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529048 "They've flat-out lost their minds". Indeed! "There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance" -Johann von Goethe “They’ve flat-out lost their minds”.
Indeed!

“There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance”
-Johann von Goethe

]]> by: Mike the Mad Biologist http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529044 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:58:42 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529044 <i>The twenty donors probably are not evil people, but who can say what they expect for their money?</i> They may not be evil people, but I'm tired of not being able to make my own mistakes, and instead suffering from other people's. I'm a lukewarm Obama supporter (and voted for him). Maybe I made a mistake, but it's <i>my</i> mistake, not someone else's. The twenty donors probably are not evil people, but who can say what they expect for their money?

They may not be evil people, but I’m tired of not being able to make my own mistakes, and instead suffering from other people’s. I’m a lukewarm Obama supporter (and voted for him). Maybe I made a mistake, but it’s my mistake, not someone else’s.

]]> by: joanr16 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529041 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:14:24 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529041 Felicity, I could be wrong, but since the superdelegates are unelected, I believe they don't represent anyone. The other, "elected" delegates, represent the primary/caucus results. Superdelegates are the party bigwigs. I think they "pledge" to a particular candidate, but can give that class ring back at any time, and start dating someone else. In the general election, I believe the Electoral College is supposed to function like "elected" party delegates, with a correlation to the popular vote of their particular state. (Please take all that with a grain of salt, as it's 5:15 p.m. on a Friday, and I have a wicked case of spring fever.) My take on the superdelegates is, some of them are starting to be wooed away from the establishment (i.e., Clinton). When Senator Ben ("Woodenhead") Nelson left a voice message on my home phone before the Nebraska caucus in February, urging me to caucus for Obama, I took that as a sign that the times are indeed a-changin'. (Actually I think I yelled, "Wooo-hoo! It's the freakin' <i>apocalypse,</i> baby!") Felicity, I could be wrong, but since the superdelegates are unelected, I believe they don’t represent anyone. The other, “elected” delegates, represent the primary/caucus results. Superdelegates are the party bigwigs. I think they “pledge” to a particular candidate, but can give that class ring back at any time, and start dating someone else.

In the general election, I believe the Electoral College is supposed to function like “elected” party delegates, with a correlation to the popular vote of their particular state.

(Please take all that with a grain of salt, as it’s 5:15 p.m. on a Friday, and I have a wicked case of spring fever.)

My take on the superdelegates is, some of them are starting to be wooed away from the establishment (i.e., Clinton). When Senator Ben (”Woodenhead”) Nelson left a voice message on my home phone before the Nebraska caucus in February, urging me to caucus for Obama, I took that as a sign that the times are indeed a-changin’. (Actually I think I yelled, “Wooo-hoo! It’s the freakin’ apocalypse, baby!”)

]]> by: BPx3 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529038 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:49:38 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529038 Maha@2: "They’ve flat-out lost their minds." Yes. It's a pitiful sight. They're not just arguing on behalf of a favored candidate, they're mindlessly spouting all the Republican talking points the Clintons have copied from Karl Rove's playbook. Most likely, they'll find their minds again after Hillary instructs them that Obama really isn't all that bad. However, what I think people like Taylor and Jeralyn have lost for a very long time is their credibility and their reputations as honest and thoughtful bloggers. But then again, what do I know? According to the Hillary supporters, I'm just one of those over-educated, Volvo-driving, latte-drinking, trust-fund-baby, Obama supporters who doesn't really "need a president," but loves to listen to flowerly speeches (even though I own neither a trust fund nor a Volvo and never drink lattes). Maha@2: “They’ve flat-out lost their minds.”

Yes. It’s a pitiful sight. They’re not just arguing on behalf of a favored candidate, they’re mindlessly spouting all the Republican talking points the Clintons have copied from Karl Rove’s playbook.

Most likely, they’ll find their minds again after Hillary instructs them that Obama really isn’t all that bad. However, what I think people like Taylor and Jeralyn have lost for a very long time is their credibility and their reputations as honest and thoughtful bloggers.

But then again, what do I know? According to the Hillary supporters, I’m just one of those over-educated, Volvo-driving, latte-drinking, trust-fund-baby, Obama supporters who doesn’t really “need a president,” but loves to listen to flowerly speeches (even though I own neither a trust fund nor a Volvo and never drink lattes).

]]> by: felicity http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529030 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:06:10 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529030 Are the super delegates sort of the primary's version of the Electoral College? Has the College ever voted without respect to the votes of those they represent? Just asking. (The remark from Imus prompted the questions.) Frankly, I think we're experiencing a 'bloodless' coup? revolution? Anyway, we're perhaps in the process of kicking out the Establishment. Are the super delegates sort of the primary’s version of the Electoral College? Has the College ever voted without respect to the votes of those they represent? Just asking. (The remark from Imus prompted the questions.)

Frankly, I think we’re experiencing a ‘bloodless’ coup? revolution? Anyway, we’re perhaps in the process of kicking out the Establishment.

]]> by: joanr16 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529027 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:11:59 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529027 The "Don Imus" comment doesn't parse for syntax <i>or</i> sense. So, to contrast that gibberish, here's a fresh, clear visual: http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/032808DailyUpdateGraph1.gif Interesting how the graph looks like a tangled vine, with the Obama branch finally breaking free towards the sunlight, and Clinton returning to the roots. As it should be. The “Don Imus” comment doesn’t parse for syntax or sense.

So, to contrast that gibberish, here’s a fresh, clear visual:

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/032808DailyUpdateGraph1.gif

Interesting how the graph looks like a tangled vine, with the Obama branch finally breaking free towards the sunlight, and Clinton returning to the roots. As it should be.

]]> by: c u n d gulag http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529026 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:24:51 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529026 A few month's back, I was undecided. Leaning heavily toward's Obama, but really still undecided. Today, I signed the petiition. Yesterday, I sent $50 to Obama. More $ to follow.... maha, I'm with you. The Hillary supporters have completely lost their mind's. Even she, yesterday, had to tell them to chill out. A few month’s back, I was undecided. Leaning heavily toward’s Obama, but really still undecided.
Today, I signed the petiition.
Yesterday, I sent $50 to Obama. More $ to follow….

maha,
I’m with you. The Hillary supporters have completely lost their mind’s. Even she, yesterday, had to tell them to chill out.

]]> by: Don Imus http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529014 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:27:30 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/03/27/the-threat/#comment-529014 Democrats wanted the Super Delegates but they should of done away with them. Since they are in effect they should be able to vote any way they want accorrding to party rules. Caucus are a stupid Democrat thing also. If they did not exist such as the Republican winner takes all delegates. Hillary would of already won by a landslide. Democrats wanted the Super Delegates but they should of done away with them. Since they are in effect they should be able to vote any way they want accorrding to party rules.

Caucus are a stupid Democrat thing also. If they did not exist such as the Republican winner takes all delegates. Hillary would of already won by a landslide.

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