Comments on: Elitism for Elites http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/ Making the World Safe for Liberalism Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:15:03 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Vigilante http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-2/#comment-529702 Vigilante Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:32:13 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529702 It's time for me to come out of the closet: I am now, and always have been, an elitist. That's why I supported JFK and RFK. And that's why I'm voting for the Senator from Illinois. Obama is the one to put America <b>Barack</b> on track. It’s time for me to come out of the closet:

I am now, and always have been, an elitist. That’s why I supported JFK and RFK. And that’s why I’m voting for the Senator from Illinois. Obama is the one to put America Barack on track.

]]> By: E.D. http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-2/#comment-529686 E.D. Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:45:58 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529686 I agree with you 100%. I grew up in rural Central NY and a lot of my relatives still live there. Racist, homophobic, xenophobic, insular, and left behind still apply. Going home is like going back in time to the late 80s. Interestingly, I think things are starting to change. Last time I was home, my grandparents said they were going to start voting Democrat. My grandfather also said his next truck would be a Toyota, because a friend of his really liked the one he just bought. I thought I was in Bizarro world. I agree with you 100%. I grew up in rural Central NY and a lot of my relatives still live there. Racist, homophobic, xenophobic, insular, and left behind still apply. Going home is like going back in time to the late 80s.

Interestingly, I think things are starting to change. Last time I was home, my grandparents said they were going to start voting Democrat. My grandfather also said his next truck would be a Toyota, because a friend of his really liked the one he just bought.

I thought I was in Bizarro world.

]]> By: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-2/#comment-529632 maha Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:22:23 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529632 Mary the Prez -- I hope you'll come back to visit again sometime. :-) Mary the Prez — I hope you’ll come back to visit again sometime. :-)

]]> By: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-2/#comment-529631 maha Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:19:21 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529631 oclday -- it appears idiocy knows no racial boundaries, either. Now, go out and graze with the rest of the sheep. oclday — it appears idiocy knows no racial boundaries, either. Now, go out and graze with the rest of the sheep.

]]> By: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-2/#comment-529606 Swami Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:53:48 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529606 Hillary says.."Americans who believe in the second amendment believe it's a matter of constitutional right, and Americans who believe in God believe it's a matter of personal faith".. Huh? What exactly is she saying here? Could be me lacking in comprehension, but I'm just seeing/hearing a conglomeration of words that says nothing by saying something...mindless filler to dull the ears of the unsophisticated listener,perhaps? Hillary says..”Americans who believe in the second amendment believe it’s a matter of constitutional right, and Americans who believe in God believe it’s a matter of personal faith”.. Huh? What exactly is she saying here? Could be me lacking in comprehension, but I’m just seeing/hearing a conglomeration of words that says nothing by saying something…mindless filler to dull the ears of the unsophisticated listener,perhaps?

]]> By: Chief http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-1/#comment-529587 Chief Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:40:53 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529587 Hinderaker, Dartmouth and Harvard Law, what a pompous, self-rightous bigoted ass. I would like to invite him to Main Street small town Ohio, also. Here is a copy of a comment I left at Liberty Street, yesterday. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It would be nice to host Victor Davis Hanson and/or Ed Morrissey in the midwest town in which I reside, about 25 miles north of Dayton, OH. At the north end of town is the ex-Miami Industries plant and parking lot. Overgrown, it’s been closed for years. Miller-Meteor used to make those unchanging taxi cabs. they’re gone. The Aerovent Fan building has been empty for years. Decker Meats - slaughter house and meat packing plant - history. I know there have been more plants close but I’ve only been living here a year and a half and that’s all I can pull off the top of my head. Hanson & Morrissey are as out of touch as Clinton & McCain. Hinderaker, Dartmouth and Harvard Law, what a pompous, self-rightous bigoted ass. I would like to invite him to Main Street small town Ohio, also. Here is a copy of a comment I left at Liberty Street, yesterday.

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It would be nice to host Victor Davis Hanson and/or Ed Morrissey in the midwest town in which I reside, about 25 miles north of Dayton, OH.

At the north end of town is the ex-Miami Industries plant and parking lot. Overgrown, it’s been closed for years.

Miller-Meteor used to make those unchanging taxi cabs. they’re gone.

The Aerovent Fan building has been empty for years.

Decker Meats – slaughter house and meat packing plant – history.

I know there have been more plants close but I’ve only been living here a year and a half and that’s all I can pull off the top of my head.

Hanson & Morrissey are as out of touch as Clinton & McCain.

]]> By: Mary The Prez http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-1/#comment-529533 Mary The Prez Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:03:32 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529533 Wow, I am sure glad you all out there straightened out the 'Rocky Top' controversy! I have lived most of my life in TN, saw the song writers who actually wrote that beautiful ode to our mountains down here recently. I was afraid this side bar discussion was going to distract you guys, but you held on and made your points that Obama did, in fact, speak the truth and the whole truth. Hell, we are all bitter, enraged about the War For Nothing, pissed about no jobs, our foreclosures (which McShame blames on US), and the fact we don't have any health insurance. I have three kids unemployed, no income myself except for Social Security, so yep, bitter is definitely my new word! Love your blog, too, Maha! I am a first time visitor, an old ragin' granny from (close to) Rocky Top! Wow, I am sure glad you all out there straightened out the ‘Rocky Top’ controversy! I have lived most of my life in TN, saw the song writers who actually wrote that beautiful ode to our mountains down here recently. I was afraid this side bar discussion was going to distract you guys, but you held on and made your points that Obama did, in fact, speak the truth and the whole truth. Hell, we are all bitter, enraged about the War For Nothing, pissed about no jobs, our foreclosures (which McShame blames on US), and the fact we don’t have any health insurance.
I have three kids unemployed, no income myself except for Social Security, so yep, bitter is definitely my new word!
Love your blog, too, Maha!
I am a first time visitor, an old ragin’ granny from (close to) Rocky Top!

]]> By: oclday http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-1/#comment-529519 oclday Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:15:23 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529519 Obama should have saved his breath and just called working class Americans typical white people. Oh that's right he found out that was impolitic to say a while ago. Racism isn't limited to whites and it isn't limited to the working class, nor is faith or guns. But the elitism BO expressed is limited to the rich and the well educated. Stop making excuses for him, he admitted his mistake. Your guy isn't perfect, get over it. Or get used to it because this crap is the little league stuff. He will need your blind support when he starts to make decisions that really impact America and American lives. God help us all. Obama should have saved his breath and just called working class Americans typical white people. Oh that’s right he found out that was impolitic to say a while ago.
Racism isn’t limited to whites and it isn’t limited to the working class, nor is faith or guns. But the elitism BO expressed is limited to the rich and the well educated.
Stop making excuses for him, he admitted his mistake. Your guy isn’t perfect, get over it. Or get used to it because this crap is the little league stuff. He will need your blind support when he starts to make decisions that really impact America and American lives.
God help us all.

]]> By: TJ http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-1/#comment-529517 TJ Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:43:44 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529517 Don't know about 'Rocky Top', didn't get much play in the San Joaquin Valley and thereabouts where I did most of my serious drinking back in the day. Yeah, the one in California, where the white wine drinking stops at the Coast Ranges (if it makes it that far) and from there on it's Okies as far as the can see (well, ok, Mexicans too, but they got their own thing.) Didn't much go in for chorale singing either, woulda seemed kinda queer (gay, now.) And knowing all the words to a song more'n four stanzas long? Also queer. But throw a little 'Okie From Muskogee' or 'Take This Job And Shove it' or 'Bad, Bad Leroy Brown' on the jukebox and you got your audience participation, mostly some buncha guys jumping in on the chorus (all we knew) as loud as they could. By 1 AM, tell the truth, things had usually gotten kinda morose and most guys were sorting out who they were gonna get in a fight with out in the parking lot after the bartender crowbarred us all outta there. 'Nother good ol' boy sport I don't miss much. On the subject though, nobody much likes being categorized then analyzed but if you gotta do it, saying what you're thinking, offensive or not, beats talking down to folks you don't know much about and who don't need (or appreciate) talking down to anyway. Don’t know about ‘Rocky Top’, didn’t get much play in the San Joaquin Valley and thereabouts where I did most of my serious drinking back in the day. Yeah, the one in California, where the white wine drinking stops at the Coast Ranges (if it makes it that far) and from there on it’s Okies as far as the can see (well, ok, Mexicans too, but they got their own thing.) Didn’t much go in for chorale singing either, woulda seemed kinda queer (gay, now.) And knowing all the words to a song more’n four stanzas long? Also queer. But throw a little ‘Okie From Muskogee’ or ‘Take This Job And Shove it’ or ‘Bad, Bad Leroy Brown’ on the jukebox and you got your audience participation, mostly some buncha guys jumping in on the chorus (all we knew) as loud as they could. By 1 AM, tell the truth, things had usually gotten kinda morose and most guys were sorting out who they were gonna get in a fight with out in the parking lot after the bartender crowbarred us all outta there. ‘Nother good ol’ boy sport I don’t miss much. On the subject though, nobody much likes being categorized then analyzed but if you gotta do it, saying what you’re thinking, offensive or not, beats talking down to folks you don’t know much about and who don’t need (or appreciate) talking down to anyway.

]]> By: Christine Buckley http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/12/elitism-for-elites/comment-page-1/#comment-529516 Christine Buckley Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:05:10 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/?p=2512#comment-529516 Bitter doesn't even cover it -- and it's not limited to whites. I have a friend -- born in Mexico, now a citizen -- who came here becaue America was the land of opportunity. She has two children to support. She's been looking for work around her small town for over two years without success. Wal-Mart would hire her, but would only pay her $5/hour -- not enough to cover her bills, childcare for my godson who is 4, and pay for gas to get to the job. Her last job was helping to pack up a Motorola factory that was moving to Mexico!!! The only jobs I can find on my computer around her are in the military -- and since she's over 40 it's not an option. Bitter doesn’t even cover it — and it’s not limited to whites. I have a friend — born in Mexico, now a citizen — who came here becaue America was the land of opportunity. She has two children to support. She’s been looking for work around her small town for over two years without success. Wal-Mart would hire her, but would only pay her $5/hour — not enough to cover her bills, childcare for my godson who is 4, and pay for gas to get to the job. Her last job was helping to pack up a Motorola factory that was moving to Mexico!!! The only jobs I can find on my computer around her are in the military — and since she’s over 40 it’s not an option.

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