“In my way of thinking, we (humans) need to have our head in the heavens while having our feet firmly planted in Mother Earth. So, in my analysis, yes, it is trusting a lot to think Obama will do what he claims he will do but I’m willing to take that chance. He comes across to me as a genuine person who does not let fear keep him from trying impossible things. ”

Nothing sets my threat klaxons blaring like a politician or one of their blind followers who starts by telling me why not to trust. I tend not to even want to go there because that descends to a level that we all need to rise above. I usually throw it right back at them and suggest that if they have any positive and compelling reasons for trusting a candidate then let them be known.

It should be easy to spot arguments from the rhetorically bankrupt. We hear things like “they rose from the same slime as all the rest of them” or “he did nothing to fix it” as caricatures that take a step back from the actual words and deeds of the candidates. This is what those who do not want to be confronted with the words and deeds of those who they advocate do.

You have my respect for being willing to state just why you trust but I doubt anyone who is more inclined to spout unsubstantiated ad hominem will be moved. I could easily have a discussion with you regarding my reasons to trust Obama over Clinton without being unduly negative but I’d be more inclined, with hettie, to ask “whaddya got?”, because I hear very little and see little willingness to answer that sort of question given the tired old negative myths with which she leads.

I’m on the fence about whether she deserves to be credited for it. I mean, no questions asked, she knew it was a good idea, but then, a lot of people did.

But she’s playing it up as part of her “experience” claims. And I’m willing to grant that she helped save it from a veto, and I grant that it was a good action for her to take. But I’m not sure you can call that “experience”. It’s one thing to haggle with lawmakers, and another to convince your spouse.

It’s like (I have *NO* idea what charitable contributions the Clintons have made; I’m going to make up an example), if they made a charitable donation to food banks, I wouldn’t count that as “experience in helping feed the hungry”. But I wouldn’t deny that it proves that she and Bill *care* about the hungry, and that matters too.

And may I say it’s pretty pathetic that the only other example you can come up with is something her HUSBAND did nearly several years ago.

And didn’t I already ban you for insulting everyone else’s intelligence? I believe I had. Well, you’re banned again.

Hillary’s take on the ‘religious’ part of the speech? Not only is Obama an elitist, he’s condescending and demeaning to those he considers beneath him.

You ask why would anyone believe in Obama. I can tell you why I choose to believe in him and you may think it’s naive and silly, but here it is.

I spent 25+ years as a psych nurse in addition to exploring Eastern ways of seeing the world in addition to learning to eliminate fear and shoot for the stars. In my way of thinking, we (humans) need to have our head in the heavens while having our feet firmly planted in Mother Earth. So, in my analysis, yes, it is trusting a lot to think Obama will do what he claims he will do but I’m willing to take that chance. He comes across to me as a genuine person who does not let fear keep him from trying impossible things. And I know he generates that feeling in others cause I feel it even through the TV screen. All of his expressions, beginning with his smile, are natural and uplifting. That is what we need. Our problems begin in the spirit and can only be solved in the spirit. On the other hand, Clinton appears regimented, her smile and expressions look forced and phony. I’m sure there is a real person in there somewhere but she is too scared to let us know it. And if she gets elected, she definitely will not show it because that will prove to her that she got what she wanted by acting the way she does and she will continue. McCain is simply a military man, has been all his life and is not about to change at this point in his life. This is his last chance to become something more than what he became in the Navy. His father and grandfather were Admirals and I guess his career was over when he got captured and tortured. So now he is angry but Commander-in-Chief sounds so much better than Admiral so he desperately wants that and probably will do anything he can to get it.

Yes, I got very jaded working in psych but that is my burden to overcome and I work on it every day. I want a president I can feel proud of and look forward to seeing his face and listening to him speak. I see that in Obama. I know he is only human but I do believe that we need a LEADER and I have faith in him. This country needs to be turned around NOW, why should we wait until he gets more experience. Just because Washington has always been the way it is doesn’t mean it is supposed to be that way or that it has to go on being that way. If that makes me naive, so be it. IMHO, you need to get out of the doldrums and think more positively.

Obama was never an elected official of the city of Chicago, nor is he “from” Chicago. So your criticism is dishonest. You’re learning well from Hillary Clinton, I see.

Obama was in the Illinois Senate, yes, and while he was there he was instrumental in reforming ethics and health care laws, enhancing tax credits for low-income workers, and increasing subsidies for childcare, among other things.

However, Hillary Clinton has been in Washington for 15 years and has accomplished very little in all that time. She goes on and on about how she fights for people, but when you look at what she has actually accomplished, it doesn’t add up to much. Little tweaks here and there; that’s about it. Why should I believe she’s going to do anything at all for anybody?

Yes, that’s the Hillary Clinton message in a nutshell. Everything’s bleeped up, it will never get any better, nobody’s going to do shit to change it, so vote for Hillary Clinton. You can count on her not to do much.