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	<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/</link>
	<description>Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration.</description>
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		<title>by: Kevin Hayden</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531577</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>And on top of everything else, Dr. Albert Hoffman is dead.  Fortunately, his problem child lives on to grant relief from teh assholes.</description>
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		<title>by: uncledad</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531544</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;I think this, right now, right before NC. And Indiana is Obamas darkest hour. And it is not really all that dark.&quot;

Comment by Ian!

Does it really matter if Obama wins? The MSM have laid down the markers. It comes down to the state of Indiana. We will decide if we have a soul. Indiana will decide who us liberals believe in. Indiana is a red state but we will decide who becomes blue. Don’t blame us 40 states have come before, if you wanted a liberal you would have said so. 

My best guess us Hoosiers are Hill by 5%. Why because of the Zion racist corporate cable media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I think this, right now, right before NC. And Indiana is Obamas darkest hour. And it is not really all that dark.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Comment by Ian!</p>
	<p>Does it really matter if Obama wins? The MSM have laid down the markers. It comes down to the state of Indiana. We will decide if we have a soul. Indiana will decide who us liberals believe in. Indiana is a red state but we will decide who becomes blue. Don’t blame us 40 states have come before, if you wanted a liberal you would have said so. </p>
	<p>My best guess us Hoosiers are Hill by 5%. Why because of the Zion racist corporate cable media.
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		<title>by: Swami</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531543</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Too bad Obama made the mistake of responding about Wright's recent comments.. The whole Wright nonsense can only survive with Obama's participation( and he just accommodated the nonsense). Obama made a clean break from the political tar baby... but he went back to get soiled in an effort to stay clean, and in doing so he inadvertently claimed a responsibility for Wright's views by renouncing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Too bad Obama made the mistake of responding about Wright&#8217;s recent comments.. The whole Wright nonsense can only survive with Obama&#8217;s participation( and he just accommodated the nonsense). Obama made a clean break from the political tar baby&#8230; but he went back to get soiled in an effort to stay clean, and in doing so he inadvertently claimed a responsibility for Wright&#8217;s views by renouncing them.
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		<title>by: uncledad</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531542</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531542</guid>
					<description>Hey swami give the mahablog some words.

I think this will be a defining election. This year will tell all. Who we let win will expose our soul. No hiding after this.........hello.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey swami give the mahablog some words.</p>
	<p>I think this will be a defining election. This year will tell all. Who we let win will expose our soul. No hiding after this&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;hello.
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		<title>by: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531511</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Connie, dear, it takes more than a simple majority to amend the Constitution. And, anyway, if we've managed to hang on to the establishment clause (by a thread, at times) for 217 years, in spite of the nearly constant efforts by conservative Christians to destroy it, I'm not too worried about Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Connie, dear, it takes more than a simple majority to amend the Constitution. And, anyway, if we&#8217;ve managed to hang on to the establishment clause (by a thread, at times) for 217 years, in spite of the nearly constant efforts by conservative Christians to destroy it, I&#8217;m not too worried about Muslims.
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		<title>by: Connie</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531507</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In re: separation of church &amp;#38; state, if there was a Muslim majority in America, how long do you think it would take for them to change that? Just sayin'...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In re: separation of church &amp; state, if there was a Muslim majority in America, how long do you think it would take for them to change that? Just sayin&#8217;&#8230;
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		<title>by: Bob Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531506</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Barbara, you never disappoint.  I saw the same story in the NYT today and, for reasons I can't explain, decided to wander by.  Bang!  There you are, dissecting it and peeling back the multiple layers of racism and bigotry and manifest stupidity.

Bravo, Barbara!  Spot on and perfectly said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Barbara, you never disappoint.  I saw the same story in the NYT today and, for reasons I can&#8217;t explain, decided to wander by.  Bang!  There you are, dissecting it and peeling back the multiple layers of racism and bigotry and manifest stupidity.</p>
	<p>Bravo, Barbara!  Spot on and perfectly said!
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		<title>by: KingGeorgeTheTenth</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531478</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531478</guid>
					<description>Here are my two cents:  

First of all (and this is why the media has become so idiotic in recent years) this whole thing is meaningless.  Not to sound like Ron Paul - but have you read the constitution?  People are aware it makes it pretty clear that religion should play no part in the Presidential election process right?  What Obama provides myself and many people like me is inspiration.  He is the perfect representation of what I think of as an American in todays age: multi racial, rational. secularist, and above all open minded and tolerant.  People in the media appear to be somewhat afraid of having to improve the level of discussion to the level Obama will bring.

The second thing I feel compelled to write about is Las Vegas, where I am attending the American Planning Association national conference.  Now, given my rural background I have never been to this cartoon city, but this is a place Americans flock to like Mecca.  Obviously the buildings are utterly beyond tacky and the place is meant to trick as much money out of our wallets as it can.  The point that is relevant to this discussion is this:  if Las Vegas is considered a nice vacation spot by typical midwestern folk - all of whom appear to be offended by Wright's words - are these people even intelligent enough to merit an opinion?  This city is a cesspool and I'm looking forward to the end of the conference on Thursday.

As always Barbara your comments are spot on, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here are my two cents:  </p>
	<p>First of all (and this is why the media has become so idiotic in recent years) this whole thing is meaningless.  Not to sound like Ron Paul - but have you read the constitution?  People are aware it makes it pretty clear that religion should play no part in the Presidential election process right?  What Obama provides myself and many people like me is inspiration.  He is the perfect representation of what I think of as an American in todays age: multi racial, rational. secularist, and above all open minded and tolerant.  People in the media appear to be somewhat afraid of having to improve the level of discussion to the level Obama will bring.</p>
	<p>The second thing I feel compelled to write about is Las Vegas, where I am attending the American Planning Association national conference.  Now, given my rural background I have never been to this cartoon city, but this is a place Americans flock to like Mecca.  Obviously the buildings are utterly beyond tacky and the place is meant to trick as much money out of our wallets as it can.  The point that is relevant to this discussion is this:  if Las Vegas is considered a nice vacation spot by typical midwestern folk - all of whom appear to be offended by Wright&#8217;s words - are these people even intelligent enough to merit an opinion?  This city is a cesspool and I&#8217;m looking forward to the end of the conference on Thursday.</p>
	<p>As always Barbara your comments are spot on, thanks.
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		<title>by: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531473</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Eh, no need for discouragement, I think.

If Obama manages to win IN on May 6, the primaries will be effectively over then.  If not, they will be over within a month.

Right now, at this moment, Obama is being attacked by a unified and encouraged Vast Right Wing Hate Machine, AND by the HRC campaign and all her supporters, AND by a MSM which is following its usual pattern of &quot;build the guy up, then tear him down again&quot;.  All of those factions are ALSO currently praising and defending both HRC and McCain.  Obama can't even depend on the democratic establishment to defend him, because they have to pretend to be neutral between him and HRC.  With the forces against him, he SHOULD be getting slaughtered, and yet he's still doing remarkably well, polling even or better against both HRC and McCain.

Once HRC finally goes down, it will take a little while, but the democratic party WILL unify again (with probably a few inevitable holdouts, but mostly).  The entire democratic leadership, establishment, and base will be defending and supporting him, ands within a few months the press will be in a new cycle.  Since they are currently in the &quot;build the guy up&quot; phase for McCain, they'll eventually get into the &quot;tear the guy down&quot; stage, which will most likely necessitate at least more fair handling of Obama.

I think this, right now, right before NC and IN primaries, is Obama's darkest hour ... and it's really not all that dark.

-me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eh, no need for discouragement, I think.</p>
	<p>If Obama manages to win IN on May 6, the primaries will be effectively over then.  If not, they will be over within a month.</p>
	<p>Right now, at this moment, Obama is being attacked by a unified and encouraged Vast Right Wing Hate Machine, AND by the HRC campaign and all her supporters, AND by a MSM which is following its usual pattern of &#8220;build the guy up, then tear him down again&#8221;.  All of those factions are ALSO currently praising and defending both HRC and McCain.  Obama can&#8217;t even depend on the democratic establishment to defend him, because they have to pretend to be neutral between him and HRC.  With the forces against him, he SHOULD be getting slaughtered, and yet he&#8217;s still doing remarkably well, polling even or better against both HRC and McCain.</p>
	<p>Once HRC finally goes down, it will take a little while, but the democratic party WILL unify again (with probably a few inevitable holdouts, but mostly).  The entire democratic leadership, establishment, and base will be defending and supporting him, ands within a few months the press will be in a new cycle.  Since they are currently in the &#8220;build the guy up&#8221; phase for McCain, they&#8217;ll eventually get into the &#8220;tear the guy down&#8221; stage, which will most likely necessitate at least more fair handling of Obama.</p>
	<p>I think this, right now, right before NC and IN primaries, is Obama&#8217;s darkest hour &#8230; and it&#8217;s really not all that dark.</p>
	<p>-me
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		<title>by: calling all toasters</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/04/28/discouraged/#comment-531472</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bob Herbert has it exactly right.  Wright is a narcissist who is using his sudden media attention to show that he can hurt Obama.  It is hard to read his NPC transcript and conclude anything other than he is also a crackpot and a racist.  Well, congratulations to him:  he has sunk Obama and set back race relations.   Mission accomplished.

Anyone who cheers this malicious, self-aggrandizing person is the one who should be ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bob Herbert has it exactly right.  Wright is a narcissist who is using his sudden media attention to show that he can hurt Obama.  It is hard to read his NPC transcript and conclude anything other than he is also a crackpot and a racist.  Well, congratulations to him:  he has sunk Obama and set back race relations.   Mission accomplished.</p>
	<p>Anyone who cheers this malicious, self-aggrandizing person is the one who should be ashamed.
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