Comments on: He Said No

By: Bananaphone

Bananaphone — Sat, 24 May 2008 16:25:59 +0000

People like those in the video make me want to stab myself in the eye with a pencil: the pain would distract me from my frustration. I suppose it could have been worse, however: at least they didn’t believe Obama was Muslim.

By: Kevin K.

Kevin K. — Fri, 23 May 2008 18:09:07 +0000

“Somebody convince me that this isn’t feasible, please. I’m starting to have nightmares.”

Sorry, good luck with those nightmares.

No, fortunately, I don’t think she could *afford* an independent run when it comes to money (predominately) or timing. Also, Hillary and Bill (I still can’t use “Billary” — makes me feel like Dan Riehl) want ownership of the party. They’re not happy with Gore’s stature, which has eclipsed Bill’s, Dean’s dominance or Obama’s ascendancy. They’re going to latch onto the party’s pant leg all the way to Denver and probably beyond. They’re fighters, remember?

By: justme

justme — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:52:32 +0000

Maybe she will run with nader

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 23 May 2008 14:56:23 +0000

I look at Clinton these days and I see Joe Lieberman. After the 1990’s I can’t see her crossing over to the dark side like Joe has, but she could go independent and make an independent run…? That could get ugly. Rather than getting her less rabid supporters back into the fold, we’d have a real party split in McCain’s favor.

Somebody convince me that this isn’t feasible, please. I’m starting to have nightmares.

By: c u n d gulag

c u n d gulag — Fri, 23 May 2008 12:30:12 +0000

While you have to admire her tenacity, you have to question her judgement. Is she really willing to split the Democratic Party apart and possibly help lose an election? What’s the end game? A VP slot? A run in 2012? Only she and Bill know.

She does have a point,though, about the popular vote (not that she has it). In 2000, she spoke about eliminating the Electoral College and letting the popular vote decide. She was right then. But, instead of sticking to her principles and trying to change the rules before 2008, she agreed to the caucuses and sanctions of FL and MI. Now, she returns to her popular vote message. Again, she has a point. But, the question we need to ask her is, “Why now? Why not earlier?” And I think the answer is that she thought she would win under any conditions – the inevability that she ran on earler.

While it’s sad to watch a politician lose because she turned on her priciples, what’s sadder is watching her turn the nominating process into a possible fiasco that loses an election for the party she says she cares about.
Democrat’s, before the Convention, I think we need an intervention.

By: maha

maha — Fri, 23 May 2008 11:11:25 +0000

… she’s banking on being able to persuade delegates that she can achieve a stronger victory in November than her opponent. Current polling suggests she’s correct in that view.

Well, no, it doesn’t. He’s at least 11 points ahead of her in nationwide popular polling and leads her in every demographic except women over the age of 50. Her argument for being more electable is based on current polling that suggests she would beat McCain in Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio, and Obama wouldn’t. But such polls right now don’t mean much.

By: Judy

Judy — Fri, 23 May 2008 06:54:10 +0000

I think she’s willing to make the party face the logical gaps in its primary rules, which were put in place to deal with the current situation of having two strong candidates. And she’s banking on being able to persuade delegates that she can achieve a stronger victory in November than her opponent. Current polling suggests she’s correct in that view. I’d like to see the process through to the end rather than seeing her end her candidacy. Let all the delegates shoulder their responsibility to select a candidate. The person most responsible for the Fl/MI controversy is Howard Dean, who thought he could just stand on the “rules”, not realizing how crucial it would be later. Too many people thought Hillary was inevitable, especially Hillary herself.