Comments on: Identify With This http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/ Exposing the ugly truths about the Bush Administration. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:11:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: moonbat http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539826 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:47:22 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539826 Wonderful post. A little OT, an <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-feinstein7-2008jun07,0,3674774.story" rel="nofollow">article in the LA Times</a> talks about how Hillary met with Obama at Dianne Feinstein's home in DC to strike a deal, this before Saturday's speech. Wonderful post. A little OT, an article in the LA Times talks about how Hillary met with Obama at Dianne Feinstein’s home in DC to strike a deal, this before Saturday’s speech.

]]> by: marcus http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539817 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:07:24 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539817 "Marcus, What do you suggest American Indians do regarding shedding the past connections to our home country?????" The same thing that anyone does when they decide to engage in this nation and not just stand by and throw things. Advanced citizenry means exactly that. You must be able to let go of the horrors that were manifest not only here, but elsewhere in the world. What does one say to the Chinese? Or the Irish? Or the Blacks, Jews, every group who came after. All of whom were treated as if they were less than dogs by the very same people who created Manifest Destiny. I cannot undo the atrocities that were done here any more than I can undo the atrocities committed by my people against the Picts and the Celts. That's the point. Identity politics is a dead end and no good will come of it. This does not mean one does not celebrate the beauty of one's heritage. It means that we all accept the virtue, the fundamental goodness of the idea of America and move forward to create a world where that type of horror does not happen again. Ever. I'm willing, are you? None the less, identity politics is an anathema to the true nature of the American experiment. “Marcus,
What do you suggest American Indians do regarding shedding the past connections to our home country?????”

The same thing that anyone does when they decide to engage in this nation and not just stand by and throw things. Advanced citizenry means exactly that. You must be able to let go of the horrors that were manifest not only here, but elsewhere in the world. What does one say to the Chinese? Or the Irish? Or the Blacks, Jews, every group who came after. All of whom were treated as if they were less than dogs by the very same people who created Manifest Destiny. I cannot undo the atrocities that were done here any more than I can undo the atrocities committed by my people against the Picts and the Celts.
That’s the point.
Identity politics is a dead end and no good will come of it. This does not mean one does not celebrate the beauty of one’s heritage. It means that we all accept the virtue, the fundamental goodness of the idea of America and move forward to create a world where that type of horror does not happen again. Ever.
I’m willing, are you?

None the less, identity politics is an anathema to the true nature of the American experiment.

]]> by: Swami http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539755 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:07:04 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539755 Good example, SteveG. Over two years without asking a question from the bench...makes me wonder. Either you are all knowing, or not to bright. Good example, SteveG. Over two years without asking a question from the bench…makes me wonder. Either you are all knowing, or not to bright.

]]> by: felicity http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539730 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:54:05 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539730 My ninety-eight-year-old mother says that women, especially the rather rabid among them, who support Hillary do so because they identify with her as a victim of a man - in H.'s case a philandering husband. (Interesting to hear the views of a woman born before women had the vote.) That said, I've read that for years Republicans have practiced what I think (?) is called transformational politics. Simply put, they create a 'message' and then convince the electorate that they need to adopt it. Dems, on the other hand, do just the opposite by forming their 'message' around what the electorate wants. My ninety-eight-year-old mother says that women, especially the rather rabid among them, who support Hillary do so because they identify with her as a victim of a man - in H.’s case a philandering husband. (Interesting to hear the views of a woman born before women had the vote.)

That said, I’ve read that for years Republicans have practiced what I think (?) is called transformational politics. Simply put, they create a ‘message’ and then convince the electorate that they need to adopt it. Dems, on the other hand, do just the opposite by forming their ‘message’ around what the electorate wants.

]]> by: Sachem http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539729 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:35:23 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539729 If you want to keep track of identity politics by blog readership, use this <a href="http://www.wikio.com/blogs/top/politics#how" rel="nofollow">Wikio site</a>. It's scary that Malkin is more "popular" than the likes of Josh Marshall. Maha has fallen to 88. Also for the reader who's having trouble, this list is an easy way to click around without worrying about dead links. (Yikes ! LGFs is up 19 places to #79) If you want to keep track of identity politics by blog readership, use this Wikio site.

It’s scary that Malkin is more “popular” than the likes of Josh Marshall. Maha has fallen to 88. Also for the reader who’s having trouble, this list is an easy way to click around without worrying about dead links.

(Yikes ! LGFs is up 19 places to #79)

]]> by: Betty Cracker http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539713 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:54:04 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539713 Wonderful post. Wonderful post.

]]> by: SteveG http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539634 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:19:59 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539634 The futility of identity politics in two words: Clarence Thomas The futility of identity politics in two words:

Clarence Thomas

]]> by: maha http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539622 Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:04:34 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539622 Bonnie: I saw. Bummer. Bonnie: I saw. Bummer.

]]> by: Bonnie http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539618 Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:42:43 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539618 No triple crown. No triple crown.

]]> by: Kevin Hayden http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539617 Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:35:17 +0000 http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/07/identify-with-this/#comment-539617 It would be an honor to vote for you at any high office you might ever seek, Barbara and should you shun that peculiar form of masochism, to vote for you as a good friend, good neighbor or wise being. Good journanimalist and edi-toreador, too, the latter for excellence at defeating the bull. It would be an honor to vote for you at any high office you might ever seek, Barbara and should you shun that peculiar form of masochism, to vote for you as a good friend, good neighbor or wise being. Good journanimalist and edi-toreador, too, the latter for excellence at defeating the bull.

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