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		<title>By: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/09/the-real-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-539961</link>
		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is drawing a lot of hate trolls from somewhere, so I&#039;m closing comments. Sorry.</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hayden</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/09/the-real-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-539958</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain&#039;s specialty seemed to be crashing planes, in service. His real act of courage was refusing special treatment as the son of an admiral, as a show of solidarity with his POW peers. And for legislation, I give him credit for normalizing relations with Vietnam.

But his embrace of Bush policies, his ties with and favors for lobbyists back to the Keating Five scandal, his abusiveness towards women (unlike his POW peers, he has a history of throwing the gals overboard, most recently Roe v. Wade), his stands on racial matters (MLK Day, apartheid sanctions, Confederate flags), his warhawkishness and his reversals on campaign financing remain huge negatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain&#8217;s specialty seemed to be crashing planes, in service. His real act of courage was refusing special treatment as the son of an admiral, as a show of solidarity with his POW peers. And for legislation, I give him credit for normalizing relations with Vietnam.</p>
<p>But his embrace of Bush policies, his ties with and favors for lobbyists back to the Keating Five scandal, his abusiveness towards women (unlike his POW peers, he has a history of throwing the gals overboard, most recently Roe v. Wade), his stands on racial matters (MLK Day, apartheid sanctions, Confederate flags), his warhawkishness and his reversals on campaign financing remain huge negatives.</p>
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		<title>By: PalaPolitical</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/09/the-real-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-539953</link>
		<dc:creator>PalaPolitical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way for Obama to beat McCain is to continuously repeat &quot;more of the same McCain&quot; and &quot;I represent change.&quot;  He is doing this already, but to secure victory he has to say these two things more and more.  Despite McCain&#039;s voting records, his association with the Republican party links him directly to George Bush.  Even though McCain disagrees with Bush on many important issues, the people have an image of McCain as being more of the same for the next four years.  Obama can&#039;t let that escape the minds of voters.  

www.palapolitical.com

He also cannot say the word change enough.  When people think of Obama they think of change, and that is the best thing he&#039;s got going for him.  If McCain wants to improve his position he needs to do things like go out and get Joe Lieberman and a VP.  This will bring his persona under a more centered light and appeal to more democrats.  Lackluster speeches like the one McCain gave last Tuesday will only continue to hurt him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way for Obama to beat McCain is to continuously repeat &#8220;more of the same McCain&#8221; and &#8220;I represent change.&#8221;  He is doing this already, but to secure victory he has to say these two things more and more.  Despite McCain&#8217;s voting records, his association with the Republican party links him directly to George Bush.  Even though McCain disagrees with Bush on many important issues, the people have an image of McCain as being more of the same for the next four years.  Obama can&#8217;t let that escape the minds of voters.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.palapolitical.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.palapolitical.com</a></p>
<p>He also cannot say the word change enough.  When people think of Obama they think of change, and that is the best thing he&#8217;s got going for him.  If McCain wants to improve his position he needs to do things like go out and get Joe Lieberman and a VP.  This will bring his persona under a more centered light and appeal to more democrats.  Lackluster speeches like the one McCain gave last Tuesday will only continue to hurt him.</p>
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		<title>By: moonbat</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/09/the-real-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-539938</link>
		<dc:creator>moonbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s obvious that McCain is going to be an easy target, based on the wacky things he&#039;s been saying. What I don&#039;t hear anyone talking about is just how fantastically great our economy is doing (not), and how all of this is going to be laid at the feet of the Republicans, come November. Recall that these were the geniuses who figured we could &lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/items/200611070011&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conquer Iraq and get the oil out of there for about $20 a barrel&lt;/a&gt; (a meme that definitely needs repeating).

As James Kunstler wrote on &lt;a href=&quot;http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com/clusterfuck_nation/2008/06/a-harsh-season.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his blog&lt;/a&gt;:

&quot;So we now head into the general election. One thing the pundits of the mainstream media seem to miss is how much more room for economic carnage there is in the months remaining. They seem to be laying their current odds on the idea that McCain and Obama are starting on a &quot;level playing field.&quot; In fact, McCain is already up to his hips in trouble from his sheer association with the Republican establishment, which will be so badly discredited by the shattered economy that it may actually go the same route as the 19th century whig party and dissolve in a putrid vapor of fecklessness. By November, the Republicans will be viewed as the party that wrecked the nation, and McCain will be in a hole so deep (still on the 20-yard-line by the way) that nobody will be able to see his lips move.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s obvious that McCain is going to be an easy target, based on the wacky things he&#8217;s been saying. What I don&#8217;t hear anyone talking about is just how fantastically great our economy is doing (not), and how all of this is going to be laid at the feet of the Republicans, come November. Recall that these were the geniuses who figured we could <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200611070011" rel="nofollow">conquer Iraq and get the oil out of there for about $20 a barrel</a> (a meme that definitely needs repeating).</p>
<p>As James Kunstler wrote on <a href="http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com/clusterfuck_nation/2008/06/a-harsh-season.html" rel="nofollow">his blog</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;So we now head into the general election. One thing the pundits of the mainstream media seem to miss is how much more room for economic carnage there is in the months remaining. They seem to be laying their current odds on the idea that McCain and Obama are starting on a &#8220;level playing field.&#8221; In fact, McCain is already up to his hips in trouble from his sheer association with the Republican establishment, which will be so badly discredited by the shattered economy that it may actually go the same route as the 19th century whig party and dissolve in a putrid vapor of fecklessness. By November, the Republicans will be viewed as the party that wrecked the nation, and McCain will be in a hole so deep (still on the 20-yard-line by the way) that nobody will be able to see his lips move.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was merely trying to have a spirited debate, but your responses endup being childish, immature, and bullish.&lt;/i&gt;

And making false statements (e.g., Obama has no record) without backing them up with documentation is the essence of maturity. Right.

&lt;i&gt;Try to be a little objective when finding your “facts.”?&lt;/i&gt;

This is a common trick of righties -- dismiss the source. Find something in what I linked to that isn&#039;t true, and which you can document isn&#039;t true, and I might have some respect for you. I doubt that you can, so you have your mature and spirited little temper tantrum. 

For example, why don&#039;t you find Obama&#039;s Senate record on a .gov site to show me that it doesn&#039;t exist? Surely you can do that.

This is why I don&#039;t have discussions with righties. It&#039;s like trying to explain poetry to a tree stump. In order to have a spirited discussion, both parties have to have functional critical thinking skills. That leaves you out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I was merely trying to have a spirited debate, but your responses endup being childish, immature, and bullish.</i></p>
<p>And making false statements (e.g., Obama has no record) without backing them up with documentation is the essence of maturity. Right.</p>
<p><i>Try to be a little objective when finding your “facts.”?</i></p>
<p>This is a common trick of righties &#8212; dismiss the source. Find something in what I linked to that isn&#8217;t true, and which you can document isn&#8217;t true, and I might have some respect for you. I doubt that you can, so you have your mature and spirited little temper tantrum. </p>
<p>For example, why don&#8217;t you find Obama&#8217;s Senate record on a .gov site to show me that it doesn&#8217;t exist? Surely you can do that.</p>
<p>This is why I don&#8217;t have discussions with righties. It&#8217;s like trying to explain poetry to a tree stump. In order to have a spirited discussion, both parties have to have functional critical thinking skills. That leaves you out.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Frederick</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/09/the-real-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-539933</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and your links?  Could you have found any more liberal sources?  MSNBC?  DailyKo&#039;s?  NY Times???  Give me a break.  Try to be a little objective when finding your &quot;facts.&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and your links?  Could you have found any more liberal sources?  MSNBC?  DailyKo&#8217;s?  NY Times???  Give me a break.  Try to be a little objective when finding your &#8220;facts.&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>felicity -- I&#039;d certainly challenge his claim that having been a POW is a qualification for POTUS. It might have been a test of endurance or personal bravery or survival skills, but being POTUS requires different skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>felicity &#8212; I&#8217;d certainly challenge his claim that having been a POW is a qualification for POTUS. It might have been a test of endurance or personal bravery or survival skills, but being POTUS requires different skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Frederick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maha,

I was merely trying to have a spirited debate, but your responses endup being childish, immature, and bullish.  But I guess that&#039;s to be expected from a leftist blowhard who apparently has no tolerance for opposing view points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maha,</p>
<p>I was merely trying to have a spirited debate, but your responses endup being childish, immature, and bullish.  But I guess that&#8217;s to be expected from a leftist blowhard who apparently has no tolerance for opposing view points.</p>
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		<title>By: felicity</title>
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		<dc:creator>felicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may well be blasphemous, but I fail to understand how being a prisoner of war makes one a hero.  (As a matter of custom, most war heroes, even heroes in general are loathe to talk about their experiences.)

May seem a minor point but isn&#039;t one in the case of McCain who touts at every opportunity his less than illustrous war record (prisoner of war) as his badge of courage, his heroism as his qualification for POTUS.   

A hero is one admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.  McCain would seem to have a way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may well be blasphemous, but I fail to understand how being a prisoner of war makes one a hero.  (As a matter of custom, most war heroes, even heroes in general are loathe to talk about their experiences.)</p>
<p>May seem a minor point but isn&#8217;t one in the case of McCain who touts at every opportunity his less than illustrous war record (prisoner of war) as his badge of courage, his heroism as his qualification for POTUS.   </p>
<p>A hero is one admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.  McCain would seem to have a way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/06/09/the-real-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-539926</link>
		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert -- I think the &quot;manchurian candidate&quot; charge is silly and I wouldn&#039;t go anywhere near it. Nor would I try to make a case that McCain is mentally unfit because of his POW experience. If he is mentally unfit, then it&#039;s up to somebody to show the voters he mentally unfit by documenting examples. It isn&#039;t necessary to drag the POW experience, or his age, into it. 

Show people documented facts and let them make up their own minds, but don&#039;t float some kind of undocumented theory or rumor and tie it to his POW experience. That&#039;s what the Right does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8212; I think the &#8220;manchurian candidate&#8221; charge is silly and I wouldn&#8217;t go anywhere near it. Nor would I try to make a case that McCain is mentally unfit because of his POW experience. If he is mentally unfit, then it&#8217;s up to somebody to show the voters he mentally unfit by documenting examples. It isn&#8217;t necessary to drag the POW experience, or his age, into it. </p>
<p>Show people documented facts and let them make up their own minds, but don&#8217;t float some kind of undocumented theory or rumor and tie it to his POW experience. That&#8217;s what the Right does.</p>
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