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		<title>By: s</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/09/27/the-morning-after/comment-page-1/#comment-547873</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 There&#039;s a lot to be learned in suffering and misery.  I suppose there&#039;s some to be learned from warfare too... like we need a pres. that can change minds by talking, not fighting.  As for salvation without acts, I do not know.  It seems to me people convince themselves that they are doing &quot;right&quot;, or they do &quot;right&quot; in one area and feel like it is okay to slip in another.  A religious person I know says &quot;people don&#039;t go to church because they don&#039;t sin, they go because they know they sin and want to be forgiven.&quot;  Another religious person I knew gave 10% of everything he got to the church, but he was as mean as a snake much of the time.  I can&#039;t say why someone is one way and others are other ways  I guess everyone has their own take on what is what.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 There&#8217;s a lot to be learned in suffering and misery.  I suppose there&#8217;s some to be learned from warfare too&#8230; like we need a pres. that can change minds by talking, not fighting.  As for salvation without acts, I do not know.  It seems to me people convince themselves that they are doing &#8220;right&#8221;, or they do &#8220;right&#8221; in one area and feel like it is okay to slip in another.  A religious person I know says &#8220;people don&#8217;t go to church because they don&#8217;t sin, they go because they know they sin and want to be forgiven.&#8221;  Another religious person I knew gave 10% of everything he got to the church, but he was as mean as a snake much of the time.  I can&#8217;t say why someone is one way and others are other ways  I guess everyone has their own take on what is what.<br />
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2008/09/27/the-morning-after/comment-page-1/#comment-547864</link>
		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18, I never wonder about such things because I&#039;m agnostic, and a secular humanist.What I wonder about on occasion, is how a loving God who knows everything would allow suffering, misery, and warfare, and mostly how people can believe in  the possibilities of salvation without acts, but a great many do.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18, I never wonder about such things because I&#8217;m agnostic, and a secular humanist.What I wonder about on occasion, is how a loving God who knows everything would allow suffering, misery, and warfare, and mostly how people can believe in  the possibilities of salvation without acts, but a great many do&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: A Canadian Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Canadian Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joanr16,

Actually, it was on the road to Stratford (more or less). I was in St. Jacobs. And you&#039;re right, rural southern Ontario is Stephen Harper country. Yech.

BTW, to the rest of Maha&#039;s readers. Anyone realize (besides Joan) that we&#039;re having an election here too? The bad news is that our version of Bush-lite is set to win a majority government (the parliamentary system allows for minority governments, which we have right now). It&#039;s very depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joanr16,</p>
<p>Actually, it was on the road to Stratford (more or less). I was in St. Jacobs. And you&#8217;re right, rural southern Ontario is Stephen Harper country. Yech.</p>
<p>BTW, to the rest of Maha&#8217;s readers. Anyone realize (besides Joan) that we&#8217;re having an election here too? The bad news is that our version of Bush-lite is set to win a majority government (the parliamentary system allows for minority governments, which we have right now). It&#8217;s very depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 I often wonder what they will say, if the Christians get to heaven and God says &quot;I sent you hope for tomorrow.  I sent a human to lead you by example and with faith into the 21st century.
I sent you someone who loves America and would work for a better future for all, someone who would care for the poor and for the children.  I sent you someone that would carefully consider all aspects before making any decision, and you didn&#039;t vote for him because YOU DIDN&#039;T LIKE THE COLOR OF THE SKIN I GAVE HIM?!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 I often wonder what they will say, if the Christians get to heaven and God says &#8220;I sent you hope for tomorrow.  I sent a human to lead you by example and with faith into the 21st century.<br />
I sent you someone who loves America and would work for a better future for all, someone who would care for the poor and for the children.  I sent you someone that would carefully consider all aspects before making any decision, and you didn&#8217;t vote for him because YOU DIDN&#8217;T LIKE THE COLOR OF THE SKIN I GAVE HIM?!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder what #15 thinks of faux news.  If all of the independents are going to vote for Obama, that makes the day a bit brighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder what #15 thinks of faux news.  If all of the independents are going to vote for Obama, that makes the day a bit brighter.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;CNN is corrupt.&lt;/i&gt;

Wow, that means CBS, Frank Luntz and Stanley Greenberg are corrupt, too. Who knew?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>CNN is corrupt.</i></p>
<p>Wow, that means CBS, Frank Luntz and Stanley Greenberg are corrupt, too. Who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: CNN is corrupt</title>
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		<dc:creator>CNN is corrupt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s look at the math again. Only 27% of viewers were Republican (see CNN website) and 41% were Democrats plus so called Independents were 30% (which we all know is another name for Democrats in hiding). If we give CNN the benefit of the doubt and only count half of the Independents, then CLEARLY JOHN MCCAIN WON THE DEBATE. CNN is simply trying to disseminate their propaganda to brainwash the sheeple of the country. CNN is corrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s look at the math again. Only 27% of viewers were Republican (see CNN website) and 41% were Democrats plus so called Independents were 30% (which we all know is another name for Democrats in hiding). If we give CNN the benefit of the doubt and only count half of the Independents, then CLEARLY JOHN MCCAIN WON THE DEBATE. CNN is simply trying to disseminate their propaganda to brainwash the sheeple of the country. CNN is corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: joanr16</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canadian Reader -- you didn&#039;t happen to be in Stratford, did you?  I&#039;ve been there a couple of times and I try very hard not to come off like an ugly American.  With my luck, though, if I were to engage the locals in a political discussion, they&#039;d be ones who love Stephen Harper.  I tend to stick to, &quot;Is it always this humid?&quot; and &quot;Your money is so much prettier than ours!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canadian Reader &#8212; you didn&#8217;t happen to be in Stratford, did you?  I&#8217;ve been there a couple of times and I try very hard not to come off like an ugly American.  With my luck, though, if I were to engage the locals in a political discussion, they&#8217;d be ones who love Stephen Harper.  I tend to stick to, &#8220;Is it always this humid?&#8221; and &#8220;Your money is so much prettier than ours!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: joanr16</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Given the way the post-debate memes are shaping up, I’m beginning to think Obama’s “gentlemanly” strategy may have been smart. &lt;/i&gt;

I contemplated this throughout the day, and have come to the same conclusion.  We know the McCain campaign will certainly mock &quot;I agree with John&quot; in TV ads, but the flip side of that is Obama, unlike the Republicans, will acknowledge areas of agreement with the other party, rather than reviling them and questioning their patriotism and essential humanity.  The general reactions to the debate indicate a lot of &quot;undecided&quot; viewers figured this out long before I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Given the way the post-debate memes are shaping up, I’m beginning to think Obama’s “gentlemanly” strategy may have been smart. </i></p>
<p>I contemplated this throughout the day, and have come to the same conclusion.  We know the McCain campaign will certainly mock &#8220;I agree with John&#8221; in TV ads, but the flip side of that is Obama, unlike the Republicans, will acknowledge areas of agreement with the other party, rather than reviling them and questioning their patriotism and essential humanity.  The general reactions to the debate indicate a lot of &#8220;undecided&#8221; viewers figured this out long before I did.</p>
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		<title>By: erinyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>erinyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>felicity, they WERE all Bush voters, but the tide has turned. All those guys liked Bush because he was a Christian who would restore honor to the WH after Clinton tainted it with his extra marital wingding.
All of those guys are feeling quite worked over at this time, myself included.
BTW, when I mentioned the Coast Guard in my previous comment, I ment no disrespect, those guys are true heroes in my book, rescue is their business, and they are the pros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>felicity, they WERE all Bush voters, but the tide has turned. All those guys liked Bush because he was a Christian who would restore honor to the WH after Clinton tainted it with his extra marital wingding.<br />
All of those guys are feeling quite worked over at this time, myself included.<br />
BTW, when I mentioned the Coast Guard in my previous comment, I ment no disrespect, those guys are true heroes in my book, rescue is their business, and they are the pros.</p>
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