More on the Bonuses

Alan Feuer and Karen Zraick write in the New York Times that Wall Street isn’t apologizing for outlandish bonuses.

“People come here because they want to work hard and get paid a lot for working hard,” one investment banker said Friday as he wended his way, lunch bag in hand, through the World Financial Center. “I think there’s a disconnect between Wall Street and Main Street.” …

… “My bonus is ‘shameful’ — but I worked hard to get it,” said John Konstantinidis, a wholesale insurance broker, lunching Friday at Harry’s at Hanover Square.

The idea seems to be that because they work very, very hard, they deserve enormous amounts of money. The thing is, normally the economy doesn’t reward a person based on how hard he works. It rewards people for producing something that has value to other people. The fact is that America is full of people who work very, very hard and who are not paid well at all for it.

I can understand a financial industry executive receiving a bonus for bringing more money into the company than the other executives. But these guys seem to think they are entitled to bonuses for breathing. They argue that if they don’t make so much money, New York doesn’t collect as much in income taxes. However, as James Ledbetter points out in Slate, “Paying pedophiles billions of dollars in bonuses would also have ancillary economic benefits—that doesn’t make it a good idea.”

Dan Gross, also in Slate, says,

The rationalization is that the bonus is the salary. The paycheck they get every week, which might add up to $150,000, is nothing. Without the bonus, [they get] no private school tuition, no mortgage, no nothing. Not getting a bonus is like getting fired. It’s as if you’ve worked all year for nothing.

Well, some people do work all year for nothing, or at least a whole lot less than $150,000.

Another argument is that companies have to reward their people generously or they will move to other firms. And what firms will they move to, pray tell? Bear Stearns? Lehman Brothers? Oh, wait …

The idea seems to be that people who do the money handling should be insulated from the nation’s financial problems. I think the opposite is true — people who do the money handling should be the first ones to take a hit when money is mishandled. I argue that it is this very sense of living in their own universe that lured so many of these people into such bad decisions.

This Is Rich

Headline from The Hill: “GOP losing patience with Obama, Dem leaders.”

Some things snark themselves. As Steve Benen says, “I wonder what the weather’s like in Republicans’ reality.”

But now they’ve got a new party chair, Michael Steele. I hope our dear Steve Gilliard is watching from blogger heaven and laughing his ass off.

For more interesting reading, see Publius and Colbert King.

Update:GOP governors press Congress to pass stimulus bill.”

Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama’s economic aid plan that would send billions to states for education, public works and health care.

Right-wing ideology is one thing, but some people actually have to govern.

Setting Records Straight

There is a blogger named Jill who blogs at Write Likes She Talks who has been complaining for months that I banned her from this site because I disagreed with her point of view. This is a bare-assed lie. I banned her because she was being a tiresome asshole.

She’s making the claim again today, and I am tired of being slandered. I left a comment on her blog that I do not expect to be published. So I am setting the record straight on this blog.

The post on which Jill got herself banned was “Explaining Obama, Defining Abortion Terms from July 4, 2008. In the early part of the comments thread, Jill and I have a polite exchange of views, and if you read the comments you will see I treated her very respectfully.

The thread went south beginning with comment #21, by Debcoop. Debcoop’s comment had several misstatements of fact regarding what Roe v. Wade provides, and also, IMO, twisted my post around to say things it didn’t say. See also Debcoop’s comment #22. I respond to Debcoop in comment #24.

At this point I’m relishing the debate, because Debcoop was proving my point of the post — that regarding abortion, few know what the hell they are talking about. Here was someone defending Roe v. Wade who didn’t know what Roe v. Wade actually said. Great fun. Debcoop responds to my response in comment #28, in which she tries to weasel out of her earlier argument and also twist my argument into something I didn’t say. I set her straight in comment #29.

So far, so good. But then in comment #30, Jill butts in and complains about my responses to Debcoop. Utterly ignoring what Debcoop and I actually had been arguing about, Jill says, “I read that as saying that you don’t see any other way to look at what he’s [Obama] said and you don’t recognize that others see it differently.”

However, once again (at this point suspecting Jill is a few cherries short of a pie) I responded to her politely in comment #31.

This is not good enough for Ms. “the world revolves around me and my neuroses” Jill. She let’s me know in comment #32 that I am wrong to disagree with her in any form, however politely. “Frankly,” she says, “it’s destructive to judge others for how far they can go or not go in criticizing.” In Debcoop’s case, I had drawn the line at telling lies, but it also seemed to me that Ms. “mine is the only legitimate point of view on the planet” Jill was taking my responses to Debcoop as criticism of her.

So in Comment #33 I told her this isn’t about you, and you don’t get to tell other bloggers how to handle comments on their own blogs.

Now in comment #34 Ms. “I can criticize you, but you can’t criticize me back” Jill whines I am being rude to her. And it was comment #34 that got her banned (see comment #35).

And ever since, Ms. “everything is always about me me me” has complained that I banned her because of her opinion. Dear, your opinion doesn’t concern me. It’s your personality that needs a tuneup.