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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2009/06/03/disagreeing-with-turley/comment-page-1/#comment-622511</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it brings you cheer, that is important too. I can live with that, or at least learn to. The present designation is large enough to provide some anonymity of place. Thank you for your consideration again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it brings you cheer, that is important too. I can live with that, or at least learn to. The present designation is large enough to provide some anonymity of place. Thank you for your consideration again.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2009/06/03/disagreeing-with-turley/comment-page-1/#comment-622509</link>
		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>expat, if it bothers you so much I will try to rig the feed so that it&#039;s not visible while people are reading comments. I like it; it cheers me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>expat, if it bothers you so much I will try to rig the feed so that it&#8217;s not visible while people are reading comments. I like it; it cheers me up.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2009/06/03/disagreeing-with-turley/comment-page-1/#comment-622494</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the good Prof. Turley disregarded or failure to assigned proper weight to the fact that &quot;right to free speech&quot; is not an unalloyed right. The yelling &quot;fire&quot; falsely in a crowd, hate speech, and lying are generally unprotected speech, that a swine on the public airways ranting opinion that directs harm to another is no different, no such right exists either constitutionally or at common law.

Concerning speech your &quot;live traffic feed&quot; does have a definite chilling effect upon entering opinions into the discussion. The cookie id should be identity enough for required records, publicly broadcasting the location indiscriminately of readers or contributers is off-putting at best and stokes paranoia concerning police state otherwise. Can a lower limit be set where there are at least 50-100,000 population in the location shown? Thanks for your consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the good Prof. Turley disregarded or failure to assigned proper weight to the fact that &#8220;right to free speech&#8221; is not an unalloyed right. The yelling &#8220;fire&#8221; falsely in a crowd, hate speech, and lying are generally unprotected speech, that a swine on the public airways ranting opinion that directs harm to another is no different, no such right exists either constitutionally or at common law.</p>
<p>Concerning speech your &#8220;live traffic feed&#8221; does have a definite chilling effect upon entering opinions into the discussion. The cookie id should be identity enough for required records, publicly broadcasting the location indiscriminately of readers or contributers is off-putting at best and stokes paranoia concerning police state otherwise. Can a lower limit be set where there are at least 50-100,000 population in the location shown? Thanks for your consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: Swami</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2009/06/03/disagreeing-with-turley/comment-page-1/#comment-622491</link>
		<dc:creator>Swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Surely reckless speech such as O’Reilly’s contributes to sense among extremists that they are entitled to murder abortion doctors.&lt;/i&gt;

I think guys like O&#039;Reilly only identify the targets and provides the notoriety that makes the killing a worthwhile endeavor. When you go before the Lord and present your gifts and receive your crowns for good works.... Doesn&#039;t it make more sense to offer the blood of the destroyer of Abraham&#039;s seed than the blood of a harlot or fornicator? The point is that the extremist&#039;s mind has already been flipped before guys like O&#039;Reilly fed them their hatred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Surely reckless speech such as O’Reilly’s contributes to sense among extremists that they are entitled to murder abortion doctors.</i></p>
<p>I think guys like O&#8217;Reilly only identify the targets and provides the notoriety that makes the killing a worthwhile endeavor. When you go before the Lord and present your gifts and receive your crowns for good works&#8230;. Doesn&#8217;t it make more sense to offer the blood of the destroyer of Abraham&#8217;s seed than the blood of a harlot or fornicator? The point is that the extremist&#8217;s mind has already been flipped before guys like O&#8217;Reilly fed them their hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: uncledad</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always requested patience for Obama. Hey he&#039;s only been in office a few months, etc. But the appointment of this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/02/AR2009060203381.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tool&lt;/a&gt; combined with the over the top praise for Ronnie Reagan yesterday has made me question our new president. More &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uncledad.org/blog/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;! Was Obama around when Ronnie preached: I&#039;m from the goverment and I&#039;m here to help? If so why did he hold the hand of that old bag yesterday, he should have kicked her to the curb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always requested patience for Obama. Hey he&#8217;s only been in office a few months, etc. But the appointment of this <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/02/AR2009060203381.html" rel="nofollow">Tool</a> combined with the over the top praise for Ronnie Reagan yesterday has made me question our new president. More <a href="http://www.uncledad.org/blog/" rel="nofollow">here</a>! Was Obama around when Ronnie preached: I&#8217;m from the goverment and I&#8217;m here to help? If so why did he hold the hand of that old bag yesterday, he should have kicked her to the curb.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2009/06/03/disagreeing-with-turley/comment-page-1/#comment-622488</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic:  Sorry; but, found this chart I though most people at this site would find interesting.  It is about the awful &quot;socialistic&quot; taking over of GM; and, the link is:

http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2009/06/socialism-running-wild.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic:  Sorry; but, found this chart I though most people at this site would find interesting.  It is about the awful &#8220;socialistic&#8221; taking over of GM; and, the link is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2009/06/socialism-running-wild.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2009/06/socialism-running-wild.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2009/06/03/disagreeing-with-turley/comment-page-1/#comment-622487</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems little chance of Roe v Wade being overturned. Attempts at the state level to circumvent Roe wil likely be overturned. They know this. So the tactics  will shift to terrorism.

 I support the right of free speech and freedom of assembly. If they want to whoop it up in church that&#039;s fine. If they want to rent a convention hall and give speeches, that&#039;s fine. If they want to have web sites, that&#039;s fine.  If they want to pursue legal action, they are swimming upstream; there&#039;s a new Supreme Court on the way, and Roe v Wade is not going away.  But let them try. 

Doctors &amp; nurses on an individual basis do NOT need to have their privacy invaded, deal with demonstrations outside their home, live in constant fear of violence. A medical person who tries to empower a womans right to choose should NOT have to join the witness protection program to practice medicine. 

The terror tactics of making life hell on earth for providers who won&#039;t quit the lawful practice of medicine must be made illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems little chance of Roe v Wade being overturned. Attempts at the state level to circumvent Roe wil likely be overturned. They know this. So the tactics  will shift to terrorism.</p>
<p> I support the right of free speech and freedom of assembly. If they want to whoop it up in church that&#8217;s fine. If they want to rent a convention hall and give speeches, that&#8217;s fine. If they want to have web sites, that&#8217;s fine.  If they want to pursue legal action, they are swimming upstream; there&#8217;s a new Supreme Court on the way, and Roe v Wade is not going away.  But let them try. </p>
<p>Doctors &amp; nurses on an individual basis do NOT need to have their privacy invaded, deal with demonstrations outside their home, live in constant fear of violence. A medical person who tries to empower a womans right to choose should NOT have to join the witness protection program to practice medicine. </p>
<p>The terror tactics of making life hell on earth for providers who won&#8217;t quit the lawful practice of medicine must be made illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: uncledad</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twit filtered again, must have been the Dick Morris, crossdressing reference!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twit filtered again, must have been the Dick Morris, crossdressing reference!</p>
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		<title>By: uncledad</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncledad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cundgulag:

&quot;Make FOX boring, and let the “free market” rule!&quot;

If it was boredom that would make them go away they would have turned the lights out years ago. Although your point is exact, lefty&#039;s should just stay away and let them argue with themselves. I think to some extent that has happened although you can always find a politician or pundit without any broadcast morals. Other than the occasional elected official, not to many lefty media types get any airtime over there. So they just make fake lefty&#039;s up, real dim and stupid looking schmucks. Hell most FAUX viewers think Dick Morris is a liberal (that’s how they over look his cross-dressing and love of hookers, hey he&#039;s a liberal, he worked for Clinton).

I think the answer to this particular act of domestic terrorism is for the Family of Tiller to sue the wholly hell out of FAUX and Bill-O. Money will pour in from far and wide for a first class defense team, Wing-nuts will scream &quot;free speech, 1st amendment, liberal plot, wha, wha, wha&quot; so fucking what. Take them to court, I guarantee they’d end up with at minimum a healthy fine. Also maybe the spectacle of the lawsuit itself may tighten up some hate speech laws as Maha refers to. Should someone who has access to millions of people five days a week, year after year, have the same right to say stupid things like I can surrounded by a few friends or co-workers or a mirror? I think not, they should be held to a different standard, they are broadcasters for shits sake, they can&#039;t even say shit on the air? CBS paid half a million for broadcasting Janet’s wardrobe malfunction (maybe they got out of the fine but you get the point), I think even a mediocre lawyer can make the case that FAUX and Bill-O are least partially responsible for that doctors murder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cundgulag:</p>
<p>&#8220;Make FOX boring, and let the “free market” rule!&#8221;</p>
<p>If it was boredom that would make them go away they would have turned the lights out years ago. Although your point is exact, lefty&#8217;s should just stay away and let them argue with themselves. I think to some extent that has happened although you can always find a politician or pundit without any broadcast morals. Other than the occasional elected official, not to many lefty media types get any airtime over there. So they just make fake lefty&#8217;s up, real dim and stupid looking schmucks. Hell most FAUX viewers think Dick Morris is a liberal (that’s how they over look his cross-dressing and love of hookers, hey he&#8217;s a liberal, he worked for Clinton).</p>
<p>I think the answer to this particular act of domestic terrorism is for the Family of Tiller to sue the wholly hell out of FAUX and Bill-O. Money will pour in from far and wide for a first class defense team, Wing-nuts will scream &#8220;free speech, 1st amendment, liberal plot, wha, wha, wha&#8221; so fucking what. Take them to court, I guarantee they’d end up with at minimum a healthy fine. Also maybe the spectacle of the lawsuit itself may tighten up some hate speech laws as Maha refers to. Should someone who has access to millions of people five days a week, year after year, have the same right to say stupid things like I can surrounded by a few friends or co-workers or a mirror? I think not, they should be held to a different standard, they are broadcasters for shits sake, they can&#8217;t even say shit on the air? CBS paid half a million for broadcasting Janet’s wardrobe malfunction (maybe they got out of the fine but you get the point), I think even a mediocre lawyer can make the case that FAUX and Bill-O are least partially responsible for that doctors murder.</p>
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		<title>By: joanr16</title>
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		<dc:creator>joanr16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;[T]he whole argument that Roeder was “dissatisfied” with the lawful process is probably wrong.&lt;/i&gt;

And yet Roeder harassed Tiller for years and didn&#039;t act until now.  Nor did he attempt to kill any other abortion providers.  I think there&#039;s plenty of reason to see a connection between the recent court verdict and the murder, or at least the timing of the murder.

Such a connection does not in any way lessen Roeder&#039;s crime... it exacerbates it.  It wasn&#039;t just the killing of someone by a bigot with a gun-- something that happens every minute in this country.  It was an act that said, &quot;Fuck the American legal system.&quot;  And since this post focuses on the encouragers, Bill O&#039;Reilly et al, I&#039;m pointing out that the encouragers share that attitude.  The public record of O&#039;Reilly&#039;s words make that perfectly clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[T]he whole argument that Roeder was “dissatisfied” with the lawful process is probably wrong.</i></p>
<p>And yet Roeder harassed Tiller for years and didn&#8217;t act until now.  Nor did he attempt to kill any other abortion providers.  I think there&#8217;s plenty of reason to see a connection between the recent court verdict and the murder, or at least the timing of the murder.</p>
<p>Such a connection does not in any way lessen Roeder&#8217;s crime&#8230; it exacerbates it.  It wasn&#8217;t just the killing of someone by a bigot with a gun&#8211; something that happens every minute in this country.  It was an act that said, &#8220;Fuck the American legal system.&#8221;  And since this post focuses on the encouragers, Bill O&#8217;Reilly et al, I&#8217;m pointing out that the encouragers share that attitude.  The public record of O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s words make that perfectly clear.</p>
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