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		<title>By: freD</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2009/06/17/life-as-a-preexisting-condition/comment-page-2/#comment-623710</link>
		<dc:creator>freD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know, if North Korean missiles and Iranian nuke programs are being run by their respective governments, and the U.S. missle defense system was completely privatized, with, as you know, the latter being at least &#039;three times more efficient / better performance&#039;... dude, they&#039;d never catch up!  And then that Minneapolis bridge woulda been rebuilt in like, a 4 months or less!  Mail stamps would cost pennies, our streets might really be paved with gold...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, if North Korean missiles and Iranian nuke programs are being run by their respective governments, and the U.S. missle defense system was completely privatized, with, as you know, the latter being at least &#8216;three times more efficient / better performance&#8217;&#8230; dude, they&#8217;d never catch up!  And then that Minneapolis bridge woulda been rebuilt in like, a 4 months or less!  Mail stamps would cost pennies, our streets might really be paved with gold&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had excellent health insurance coverage for decades, and have spent way too much of my time as an adult battling with those insurers who refused to honor their contractual obligations.  Most recently payment for a wheelchair has been denied after a fractured hip.  It never ceases to amaze me that no matter what medical problem my family encounters, we are unlikely to be covered.  The fight is wearing me out.

BTW - what does SH stand for?  I could guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had excellent health insurance coverage for decades, and have spent way too much of my time as an adult battling with those insurers who refused to honor their contractual obligations.  Most recently payment for a wheelchair has been denied after a fractured hip.  It never ceases to amaze me that no matter what medical problem my family encounters, we are unlikely to be covered.  The fight is wearing me out.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; what does SH stand for?  I could guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fuyura</title>
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		<dc:creator>fuyura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope SH takes comfort from the fact that the North Korean missiles and Iranian nukes (if they even exist) are the products of their respective governments, and hence nothing to worry about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope SH takes comfort from the fact that the North Korean missiles and Iranian nukes (if they even exist) are the products of their respective governments, and hence nothing to worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: Paidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a vast number of (small) business owners actually have no employees other than themselves (and occasional  business partners). Somehow, I suspect that is very likely the case for SH. Understand that, at least here in my state, anybody with $300.00 can easily form his own corporation (fees may vary from state to state) - and Voila! You are now a CEO and business owner! And creating a proprietorship is even easier.
Understand that there is a thriving industry that provides a drop box address, business phone with a &quot;receptionist&quot;, etc. so that it appears you are more than some poor schluck operating out of your efficiency apt. (or your parents&#039; basement).

 Furthermore, a great many of these have  health insurance under a major group plan through their spouse, who usually works in a large enough corporation or government agency to provide affordable coverage. Believe me, as a business owner for over 30 years (and former VP of an insurance company),  I can tell you that that is the only conceivable way SH could possibly be happy with his health insurance, unless he himself is actually employed as a drone in a mammoth corporation with his business on the side. (a distinct possibility)
Then again, judging from his mindless rants, he may very well still be on his parents&#039; group plan.

Nothing he has said so far even hints that he has the slightest clue of the process of actually procuring health insurance for a business. Or anything  about insurance, or running a business, - or anything at all, for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a vast number of (small) business owners actually have no employees other than themselves (and occasional  business partners). Somehow, I suspect that is very likely the case for SH. Understand that, at least here in my state, anybody with $300.00 can easily form his own corporation (fees may vary from state to state) &#8211; and Voila! You are now a CEO and business owner! And creating a proprietorship is even easier.<br />
Understand that there is a thriving industry that provides a drop box address, business phone with a &#8220;receptionist&#8221;, etc. so that it appears you are more than some poor schluck operating out of your efficiency apt. (or your parents&#8217; basement).</p>
<p> Furthermore, a great many of these have  health insurance under a major group plan through their spouse, who usually works in a large enough corporation or government agency to provide affordable coverage. Believe me, as a business owner for over 30 years (and former VP of an insurance company),  I can tell you that that is the only conceivable way SH could possibly be happy with his health insurance, unless he himself is actually employed as a drone in a mammoth corporation with his business on the side. (a distinct possibility)<br />
Then again, judging from his mindless rants, he may very well still be on his parents&#8217; group plan.</p>
<p>Nothing he has said so far even hints that he has the slightest clue of the process of actually procuring health insurance for a business. Or anything  about insurance, or running a business, &#8211; or anything at all, for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Massimo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Massimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I know, I&#039;m a business owner.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ooooh, back off, everyone! He&#039;s a BUSINESS OWNER! He EMPLOYS PEOPLE, and for no other reason but the goodness of his heart! He knows EVERYTHING! And he should get EVERYTHING he wants! ALWAYS!

It&#039;s what&#039;s best for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know, I&#8217;m a business owner.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ooooh, back off, everyone! He&#8217;s a BUSINESS OWNER! He EMPLOYS PEOPLE, and for no other reason but the goodness of his heart! He knows EVERYTHING! And he should get EVERYTHING he wants! ALWAYS!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what&#8217;s best for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Balakirev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balakirev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lets get a few things straight; first of all the government never does anything cost effectively, overhead is out of sight and paper work only increases.&quot;

Boy, I&#039;m sure glad we USians don&#039;t have public libraries, public schools, publicly funded sewage systems, fire and police departments!  If we did, think how ineffectively they would be cost-managed!  Why, with all their bungled finances and poor service in the public eye, they wouldn&#039;t last a year!

&quot;North Korea is getting ready to launch a cruise missile towards Hawaii. Iran is building nuclear weppons.&quot;

You forgot to mention the zombies who are even now massing across the Canadian border, waiting the word of Howard Dean to invade and steal our precious body fluids.  But keep it up!  You&#039;re on the right track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lets get a few things straight; first of all the government never does anything cost effectively, overhead is out of sight and paper work only increases.&#8221;</p>
<p>Boy, I&#8217;m sure glad we USians don&#8217;t have public libraries, public schools, publicly funded sewage systems, fire and police departments!  If we did, think how ineffectively they would be cost-managed!  Why, with all their bungled finances and poor service in the public eye, they wouldn&#8217;t last a year!</p>
<p>&#8220;North Korea is getting ready to launch a cruise missile towards Hawaii. Iran is building nuclear weppons.&#8221;</p>
<p>You forgot to mention the zombies who are even now massing across the Canadian border, waiting the word of Howard Dean to invade and steal our precious body fluids.  But keep it up!  You&#8217;re on the right track.</p>
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		<title>By: PseudoNoise</title>
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		<dc:creator>PseudoNoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter SH:
The US government is nothing but a den of sloth, incompetence and waste.
How can you expect private insurance can compete with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter SH:<br />
The US government is nothing but a den of sloth, incompetence and waste.<br />
How can you expect private insurance can compete with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Chief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SH,

I have 3 insurances.  Primary is Medicare as I am 68 years old.  Secondary is BC/BS Fed Retiree and tertiary is Tricare for Life (retired U.S. Navy).

In looking over my EOBs for the secondary, I see the secondary paying their share (about 20% of allowed costs) in less than 6 weeks of my doctors visit.  And they pay after Medicare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SH,</p>
<p>I have 3 insurances.  Primary is Medicare as I am 68 years old.  Secondary is BC/BS Fed Retiree and tertiary is Tricare for Life (retired U.S. Navy).</p>
<p>In looking over my EOBs for the secondary, I see the secondary paying their share (about 20% of allowed costs) in less than 6 weeks of my doctors visit.  And they pay after Medicare.</p>
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		<title>By: freD</title>
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		<dc:creator>freD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SH completely ignores the “handy chart”.  I’m curious about this.  In his shoes, my own argument would have addressed the chart in some way.  Back in my shoes (thankfully) I wonder if the handy chart is ignored because it’s Canadian?  Tricksy and false? Satanic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SH completely ignores the “handy chart”.  I’m curious about this.  In his shoes, my own argument would have addressed the chart in some way.  Back in my shoes (thankfully) I wonder if the handy chart is ignored because it’s Canadian?  Tricksy and false? Satanic?</p>
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		<title>By: morzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>morzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SH: Private industry could accomplish better perfomance with 1/4 of the people.
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This would be the private industry we&#039;ve all just spent billions to bail out?  Have you missed the economic news for the last decade? Enron ring any bells? 
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SH:Obama says this will be self supporting, are you kidding me? Lets assume that all americans are covered but 1/3 of them are not paying anything. That leaves 2/3 paying for everyone else.
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First, self-supporting is not what Obama said. he is aiming for budget-neutrality, to be achieved by efficiency and cost-control. There is a difference.  Second, you have no basis for the figures you provide.  They are simply bad fiction and arise from your desire to defraud the public.
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SH:It currently takes medicare an average of 6 months to reimburse doctors for care which is why so many doctors won’t accept medicare.
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No, many doctors do accept medicare. Those that don&#039;t generally want to make more money, rather than caring for patients. But you didn&#039;t want the facts, did you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SH: Private industry could accomplish better perfomance with 1/4 of the people.<br />
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<p>This would be the private industry we&#8217;ve all just spent billions to bail out?  Have you missed the economic news for the last decade? Enron ring any bells?<br />
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SH:Obama says this will be self supporting, are you kidding me? Lets assume that all americans are covered but 1/3 of them are not paying anything. That leaves 2/3 paying for everyone else.<br />
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<p>First, self-supporting is not what Obama said. he is aiming for budget-neutrality, to be achieved by efficiency and cost-control. There is a difference.  Second, you have no basis for the figures you provide.  They are simply bad fiction and arise from your desire to defraud the public.<br />
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SH:It currently takes medicare an average of 6 months to reimburse doctors for care which is why so many doctors won’t accept medicare.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>No, many doctors do accept medicare. Those that don&#8217;t generally want to make more money, rather than caring for patients. But you didn&#8217;t want the facts, did you?</p>
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