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		<title>By: s</title>
		<link>http://www.mahablog.com/2009/10/31/new-york-district-23-a-tossup/comment-page-1/#comment-636413</link>
		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RU I don&#039;t agree.  Obama couldn&#039;t have been elected if &quot;everyone hates black people&quot;.  As far as the deficit, When bush took office, we were 2 trillion in black and when he left office we were 2 trillion in the red and forking over money like halloween candy.  If you had something to say about the deficit, why weren&#039;t you speaking up when bush was throwing out unfunded tax cuts for the rich?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RU I don&#8217;t agree.  Obama couldn&#8217;t have been elected if &#8220;everyone hates black people&#8221;.  As far as the deficit, When bush took office, we were 2 trillion in black and when he left office we were 2 trillion in the red and forking over money like halloween candy.  If you had something to say about the deficit, why weren&#8217;t you speaking up when bush was throwing out unfunded tax cuts for the rich?</p>
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		<title>By: R U fing kidding</title>
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		<dc:creator>R U fing kidding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill you are absolutely correct.  I agree, every one hates black people.  It has nothing to do with the fact that Obama surrounds him self with Marxists and revolutionary radicals that want to &quot;fundamentally transform&quot; America and take away our freedom.  Nor does it have anything to do with the fact that that he has doubled our national deficit and placed us in a situation that we might possibly never be able to financially recover from.  And in only less than a year in office.  It is simply because he is black that every one disagrees with him.  Well said Bill.  BTW, where do you think &quot;Obama money&quot; comes from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill you are absolutely correct.  I agree, every one hates black people.  It has nothing to do with the fact that Obama surrounds him self with Marxists and revolutionary radicals that want to &#8220;fundamentally transform&#8221; America and take away our freedom.  Nor does it have anything to do with the fact that that he has doubled our national deficit and placed us in a situation that we might possibly never be able to financially recover from.  And in only less than a year in office.  It is simply because he is black that every one disagrees with him.  Well said Bill.  BTW, where do you think &#8220;Obama money&#8221; comes from?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all goes back to racism: none of these teabaggers were moved to act until a black man was elected President of the United States.  Look at the above-mentioned list of luminaries of the loony.  Now tell me how &quot;ethnic-friendly&quot; any of them are.  Look at who they support, who they criticize, and who they associate with.  Just look.  Also look at paragraph 2 in the comments above from moonbat and cundgulag.  Can you figure out who lives in rural upstate NY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all goes back to racism: none of these teabaggers were moved to act until a black man was elected President of the United States.  Look at the above-mentioned list of luminaries of the loony.  Now tell me how &#8220;ethnic-friendly&#8221; any of them are.  Look at who they support, who they criticize, and who they associate with.  Just look.  Also look at paragraph 2 in the comments above from moonbat and cundgulag.  Can you figure out who lives in rural upstate NY?</p>
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		<title>By: moonbat</title>
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		<dc:creator>moonbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/opinion/01rich.html?_r=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Frank Rich&#039;s column&lt;/a&gt; on this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;BARACK OBAMA’S most devilish political move since the 2008 campaign was to appoint a Republican congressman from upstate New York as secretary of the Army. This week’s election to fill that vacant seat has set off nothing less than a riotous and bloody national G.O.P. civil war. No matter what the results in that race on Tuesday, the Republicans are the sure losers. This could be a gift that keeps on giving to the Democrats through 2010, and perhaps beyond.
 
...preposterous as it sounds, the real action migrated to New York’s 23rd, a rural Congressional district abutting Canada. That this pastoral setting could become a G.O.P. killing field, attracting an all-star cast of combatants led by Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, William Kristol and Newt Gingrich, is a premise out of a Depression-era screwball comedy. But such farces have become the norm for the conservative movement — whether the participants are dressing up in full “tea party” drag or not. 

The battle for upstate New York confirms just how swiftly the right has devolved into a wacky, paranoid cult that is as eager to eat its own as it is to destroy Obama. The movement’s undisputed leaders, Palin and Beck, neither of whom have what Palin once called the “actual responsibilities” of public office, would gladly see the Republican Party die on the cross of right-wing ideological purity. Over the short term, at least, their wish could come true...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must see <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/opinion/01rich.html?_r=2" rel="nofollow"> Frank Rich&#8217;s column</a> on this:</p>
<blockquote><p>BARACK OBAMA’S most devilish political move since the 2008 campaign was to appoint a Republican congressman from upstate New York as secretary of the Army. This week’s election to fill that vacant seat has set off nothing less than a riotous and bloody national G.O.P. civil war. No matter what the results in that race on Tuesday, the Republicans are the sure losers. This could be a gift that keeps on giving to the Democrats through 2010, and perhaps beyond.</p>
<p>&#8230;preposterous as it sounds, the real action migrated to New York’s 23rd, a rural Congressional district abutting Canada. That this pastoral setting could become a G.O.P. killing field, attracting an all-star cast of combatants led by Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, William Kristol and Newt Gingrich, is a premise out of a Depression-era screwball comedy. But such farces have become the norm for the conservative movement — whether the participants are dressing up in full “tea party” drag or not. </p>
<p>The battle for upstate New York confirms just how swiftly the right has devolved into a wacky, paranoid cult that is as eager to eat its own as it is to destroy Obama. The movement’s undisputed leaders, Palin and Beck, neither of whom have what Palin once called the “actual responsibilities” of public office, would gladly see the Republican Party die on the cross of right-wing ideological purity. Over the short term, at least, their wish could come true&#8230;
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		<title>By: Balakirev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balakirev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Democrat&quot; is a former Republican who moved into the area recently, and is very conservative.  The Conservative candidate is, of course, off the loony tunes end of the spectrum.  Whomever wins in the NY 23rd, we lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Democrat&#8221; is a former Republican who moved into the area recently, and is very conservative.  The Conservative candidate is, of course, off the loony tunes end of the spectrum.  Whomever wins in the NY 23rd, we lose.</p>
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		<title>By: c u n d gulag</title>
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		<dc:creator>c u n d gulag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from upstate NY.  Not as far upstate as that area, but still upstate.
I know that area a bit.  My sister and niece are both Potsdam graduates.  Some of my friends went to Plattsburgh.  
Most of those towns are college towns, so they&#039;re pretty liberal.  It&#039;s the rural areas sorrounding those towns that are hard-core conservative.  I think the Dem has a chance.  The core will vote for the wingnut.  A lot of people won&#039;t show up. But, it could come down to the Dem winning by a small margin.  Of course, he ain&#039;t much of a Dem...
BTW - my 2nd job is calling to survey elections.  From the calls I&#039;ve made, Corzine will win.  That&#039;s the consensus of the other callers.  I&#039;m new, so I don&#039;t know how accurate my, or their, feedback is.

And let the tea-baggers run.  They&#039;ll suck off more votes from what remains of the Republican party than Democrats.  If I had an &quot;R&quot; next to my name,  I&#039;d be scared Beckless of what I&#039;m seeing my party become.  But that&#039;s what they get for Palin around with rascist&#039;s and religious loons.  If they ever DO win a national election, though, I&#039;ll c u n d gulag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from upstate NY.  Not as far upstate as that area, but still upstate.<br />
I know that area a bit.  My sister and niece are both Potsdam graduates.  Some of my friends went to Plattsburgh.<br />
Most of those towns are college towns, so they&#8217;re pretty liberal.  It&#8217;s the rural areas sorrounding those towns that are hard-core conservative.  I think the Dem has a chance.  The core will vote for the wingnut.  A lot of people won&#8217;t show up. But, it could come down to the Dem winning by a small margin.  Of course, he ain&#8217;t much of a Dem&#8230;<br />
BTW &#8211; my 2nd job is calling to survey elections.  From the calls I&#8217;ve made, Corzine will win.  That&#8217;s the consensus of the other callers.  I&#8217;m new, so I don&#8217;t know how accurate my, or their, feedback is.</p>
<p>And let the tea-baggers run.  They&#8217;ll suck off more votes from what remains of the Republican party than Democrats.  If I had an &#8220;R&#8221; next to my name,  I&#8217;d be scared Beckless of what I&#8217;m seeing my party become.  But that&#8217;s what they get for Palin around with rascist&#8217;s and religious loons.  If they ever DO win a national election, though, I&#8217;ll c u n d gulag.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug -- Yes, and it&#039;s almost certain that if Hoffman wins, the GOP will be running slates of hard-right loony tune wingnuts next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug &#8212; Yes, and it&#8217;s almost certain that if Hoffman wins, the GOP will be running slates of hard-right loony tune wingnuts next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier this year I advocated that Rush Limbaugh run for president in  2012. I will be almost as happy to see a teabagger in congress particularly before the 2010 election cycle. Why? Because these people are idiots who can only operate in a vacuume.  Push them into the real world and under the pressure of real questions from a real press about real issues and they will implode - Publicly.

I want the teabaggers to have a soap box - I want them to think that one seat in Congress means they own the GOP and the entire political spectrum right of center. I want teabaggers spouting foolishness every night on CNN - and I want the political commentators - the conservative ones and the liberals to ridicule the ridiculous. Let the GOP split neatly down the middle for 2010 &amp; 2012.

Teabaggers recruit for us in the same way Bush recruited for al Queda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this year I advocated that Rush Limbaugh run for president in  2012. I will be almost as happy to see a teabagger in congress particularly before the 2010 election cycle. Why? Because these people are idiots who can only operate in a vacuume.  Push them into the real world and under the pressure of real questions from a real press about real issues and they will implode &#8211; Publicly.</p>
<p>I want the teabaggers to have a soap box &#8211; I want them to think that one seat in Congress means they own the GOP and the entire political spectrum right of center. I want teabaggers spouting foolishness every night on CNN &#8211; and I want the political commentators &#8211; the conservative ones and the liberals to ridicule the ridiculous. Let the GOP split neatly down the middle for 2010 &amp; 2012.</p>
<p>Teabaggers recruit for us in the same way Bush recruited for al Queda.</p>
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		<title>By: maha</title>
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		<dc:creator>maha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moonbat -- I&#039;m told that district hasn&#039;t elected a Democrat since 1860, or something like that. So a Democratic win would be huge, although apparently unlikely at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moonbat &#8212; I&#8217;m told that district hasn&#8217;t elected a Democrat since 1860, or something like that. So a Democratic win would be huge, although apparently unlikely at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: moonbat</title>
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		<dc:creator>moonbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add a bit of context, I looked up where NY&#039;s 23rd district is - it comprises the northeastern part of the state, from eastern Lake Ontario to the Canadian and Vermont borders. Map &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_York_District_23_109th_US_Congress.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s not a very urban district - the big towns are Potsdam, Oswego, Ogdensburgh, Watertown, Plattsburgh, and so on - and so, without knowing NY geography in detail, it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if the wingnut won/was able to pressure the moderate into exiting the race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add a bit of context, I looked up where NY&#8217;s 23rd district is &#8211; it comprises the northeastern part of the state, from eastern Lake Ontario to the Canadian and Vermont borders. Map <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_York_District_23_109th_US_Congress.png" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It&#8217;s not a very urban district &#8211; the big towns are Potsdam, Oswego, Ogdensburgh, Watertown, Plattsburgh, and so on &#8211; and so, without knowing NY geography in detail, it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if the wingnut won/was able to pressure the moderate into exiting the race.</p>
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