Browsing the blog archivesfor the day Tuesday, December 15th, 2009.


Time to Kill the Bill?

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Health Care

The question many of us have debated is, how bad does the health care bill have to get before we’re better off killing it? Howard Dean says the time has come.

The gauntlet from Dean — whose voice on health care is well respsected among liberals — will energize those on the left who are mobilizing against the bill, and make it tougher for liberals to embrace the emerging proposal. In an excerpt Kinzel gave me, Dean says:

“This is essentially the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate. Honestly the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate bill, go back to the House, start the reconciliation process, where you only need 51 votes and it would be a much simpler bill.”

Kinzel added that Dean essentially said that if Democratic leaders cave into Joe Lieberman right now they’ll be left with a bill that’s not worth supporting.

On the other hand, Nate Silver writes Why Progressives Are Batshit Crazy to Oppose the Senate Bill. You’ll have to read his post for the argument, but it’s a solid wonk argument.

Greg Sargent:

There’s a debate raging in the blogosphere about whether the Senate bill has been so watered down that it’s time to try to kill it, and one thing that’s interesting is how cleanly it breaks down as a disagreement between operatives and wonks.

The bloggers who are focused on political organizing and pulling Dems to the left mostly seem to want to kill the bill, while the wonkier types want to salvage it because they think it contains real reform and can act as a foundation for further achievements.

All I know is that I have a headache.

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