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This impenetrably juvenile screed has been thoroughly answered by a number of other bloggers, so I don’t have to. See Steve M, Booman, and mistermix. Now I have to go do other things for a while.

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  1. Swami  •  Oct 1, 2012 @1:01 pm

    I love the word ..innocent.. It’s a fun word to ponder its source of power. And it makes a great name for a Pope also.

  2. c u n d gulag  •  Oct 1, 2012 @1:09 pm

    If this self-absorbed, self-important @$$hole wants to cut off his nose to spite his face, that’s his choice.

    But why cut off mine, and everyone elses, while he’s at it?

    I’m not the best lookin’ critter on the planet, but I like my nose where it is.

  3. Swami  •  Oct 1, 2012 @1:53 pm

    OT.. but, does Paulie have bedroom eyes?

  4. Iosue  •  Oct 1, 2012 @2:29 pm

    I’m an absurd idealist, and I know this about myself. But at the same time, I understand that political realities aren’t going to fall in line with MY idea of how things should be–that’s just narcissism. There is plenty about Pres. Obama that I don’t like, and I think he is too conservative. For example, I am not crazy about the ACA, but I think it is a stepping stone in the right direction, and for that reason, Obama did good.

    Throwing a tantrum, saying ‘If you don’t do this, then I’m not going to be your friend anymore’ is, well, childish. What is more at stake is pushing that Overton window in the other direction, and that can’t be done overnight. It took time and patience for the Republicans to screw up this country (and by extension, much of the world), and it will take time and patient to fix what has long been screwed up.

    By analogy: When you begin working with weights, you don’t start off doing chest flys with 30 pound dumbbells–depending on where you’re strength is at, you may have to start with 10 or 15 pounds. Then you work at that for weeks or months and gradually work your way up to 30 pounds and on up. If you begin with 30 pound weights and then exclaim, ‘Oh, this sucks, I quit!’ well, you’re just not very bright or willing to get off your a$$ and do something about it. You’re just a whiner, and the world has more than filled up its quota of whiners.

  5. justme277  •  Oct 1, 2012 @3:45 pm

    Well if little freddie is done stomping his feet then I will have my say. Do I like the drone strikes and the fact that sometimes innocents get caught in the crossfire? No. Do I like it when innocents die at the hands of drive by shooters every single day IN MY OWN country? No.I could blame that on Obama too, because he didn’t do as I wish and outlaw ammo.

    Obama certainly has some policies I do not care for, but the self centered idea that Obama has to conform to be MY perfect candidate is so bibi it is laughable. And the idea that any candidate should conform to any one voters political ideals is just foolish. If you think you will find me on the floor having a tantrum because Obama didn’t do what I wanted him to do you would be mistaken.

    I urge freddie to take his one vote over to mittwitt. Then he can wash his hands and pretend it is all better. Meanwhile the drones will continue and increase , we will nuke Iran and Americans will starve when they get cut off from a needed social program. But as long as freddie FEELS better, like he has taken some moral stand it won’t matter.

  6. Swami  •  Oct 1, 2012 @4:06 pm

    Paulie needs to be showered in some liberal love…We need to shine a little brighter light on that beady eyed rodent. He’s a little more sinister than the misguided policy wonk he’s been portrayed as. Paulie needs to be sent a packin’. let’s hope and work toward the idea that he’s stepped on a political land mine and gets his political legs blown off for walking point for Romney.. A classic case of “I got mine, F you, comrades”

    I once saw some film footage of German soldiers who were taken prisoner at the surrender of Stalingrad. They were marched off to their death into the depths of Russia. While starving to death they were taunted by their Russian captors by throwing scraps of bread into the mass of soliders so that they would act like seagulls and scramble and fight among themselves to get whatever scaps of food were thrown at them. That’s going to be the same dynamic that Paulie’s medicaid/medicare block grants to the states is going to be.

    There’s just so much dwindling money to be tossed out. The poor, elderly, and disadvantaged are going to have fight among themselves for their survival.. It might serve for doomed prisoners or dying parasites, but it won’t serve the true needs of the American people.

  7. Paula  •  Oct 1, 2012 @4:41 pm

    Ugh, this kid. Freddie deBoer’s gotten internet beatdowns from various places, but it ain’t enough to make him think before he opens the figurative piehole.

    http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/04/09/why-tiger-beatdown-has-jokes-on-it-turns-out-some-motherfucker-had-to-ask-me/

    In the lead-up to Libya, he had the gall to call Juan Cole a neocon. That guy’s got balls, at least.

  8. Swami  •  Oct 1, 2012 @5:48 pm

    Freddie might benefit by a quick reading of the serenity prayer.

    God grant me the serenity
    to accept the things I cannot change;
    courage to change the things I can;
    and wisdom to know the difference.

  9. maha  •  Oct 1, 2012 @7:38 pm

    In the lead-up to Libya, he had the gall to call Juan Cole a neocon. That guy’s got balls, at least.

    That’s not balls; that’s ignorance. I’m wondering if Freddie is a precocious 16-year-old who doesn’t really understand anything that happened before 2009 or so.

  10. Swami  •  Oct 1, 2012 @7:41 pm

    I guess we can expect an inverse strategy from Romney..He’s probably going to tie Obama up ala Spiderman with a web of lies and distortions so thorough that Obama will be completely confounded and overcome.Telling lies without regard hasn’t slowed Romney up one bit to this point, so I would imagine he’s gonna go full guns once he get the chance to fire away.

    “The challenge that I’ll have in the debate is that the president tends to, how shall I say it, to say things that aren’t true,” Romney told ABC News recently. “I’ve looked at prior debates. And in that kind of case, it’s difficult to say, ‘Well, am I going to spend my time correcting things that aren’t quite accurate? Or am I going to spend my time talking about the things I want to talk about?”

    Bold type is the clue.

  11. Paula  •  Oct 1, 2012 @7:59 pm

    Well, yes, it’s ignorance — but it’s certainly notable that a said instructor of “rhetoric and composition” would go all-out against an established Middle East historian?

    At Freddie’s age and presumed level of scholarship, “precocious” is no longer applicable. Every time I see a screed of his, I begin to question the wisdom of the institution that pays his checks to, ugh, teach argument.

  12. Doug Hughes  •  Oct 1, 2012 @10:52 pm

    Mitts in trouble because of the same political mechanics this clown would have progressives employ.

    Look at Mitt. He’s stranded on the far right wingtip with no chance to move to the center of balance somewhere between independent center and the chaos that’s overtaken the GOP. That’s the swing to the center (etch-a-sketch) that was inevitable after the primaries. It never happened. Instead Mitt hitched his wagon to the tea party with Ryan.

    I’m speculating that the powers-that-be told Mitt that a pivot to the center would cause the TP to put up their own candidate – with funds. This would have doomed Mitt’s candidacy so he struck a deal to stay as far out to the right as the primary contest had forced him, with the understanding that the super-pacs wold have unlimited funds to attack Obama.

    OK – dum-dum want’s progressives to assemble the same kind of extortion, just applied to the use of drones. Do what I want or we will sabotage your campaign.

    Gambling, business and politics are governed by risk vs gain calculations. The choices between two presidential candidates has not been so stark since Kennedy/Nixon. For what gain do you risk putting Romney and Company in charge? There are issues that are worth brinksmanship – high, high risks for enormous gains. This isn’t one of them.

  13. Swami  •  Oct 2, 2012 @5:28 am

    Make no mistake!

    “Make no mistake: Congressmen Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, and Kevin McCarthy are proud Republicans. But they believe the party had lost sight of the ideals it believes in, like economic freedom, limited government, the sanctity of life, and putting families first. This isn’t your grandfather’s Republican party. These Young Guns of the House GOP—Cantor (the leader), Ryan (the thinker), and McCarthy (the strategist)—are ready to take their belief in the principles that have made America great and translate it into solutions that will make the future even better, solutions that will create private sector jobs, maximize individual freedom, and establish a better world for our children”

    Be trembling in your boots, folks…It’s the thinker! aaaah, yeah, the thinker.

  14. c u n d gulag  •  Oct 2, 2012 @6:40 am

    OT – Cup O’ Schmoe’s show has in interview with Callista Gingrich coming up later.

    Anyone interested in learning how to snag yourself a married Congressman should watch – but if they’re not going to ask her that question, I don’t see any other reason to have her on.
    Sorry to be tacky, but since I’m not looking to snag a Congressman, I really don’t care what comes out of that mouth.

  15. biggerbox  •  Oct 2, 2012 @10:38 am

    I’m sorry, but should Mitt Romney win, he and John Bolton and Dan Senor will kill a lot more innocent civilians than have been killed by all the drones Obama ever will launch. Has Freddie even considered the Romney “foreign policy” ?? (I use quotes because it barely qualifies as a coherent policy.)

    War with Iran and extended war in Afghanistan just for starters.

    Sorry, I’ll take the guy with the drones. And I’m not staying home or ‘sending a message’ with a third party; not after Bush v. Gore.

    Maybe people wouldn’t mock Freddie if he weren’t so silly.

  16. LongHairedWeirdo  •  Oct 2, 2012 @6:17 pm

    Well… the only thing that bothers me about that link is that it’s whiny. And that… that’s not horrible. It’s not helpful, but, hell, let’s face it… people are whiny sometimes, and I bet a lot of “us” have been saved only by a few minutes of reflection from posting something whiny.

    I don’t want to criticize this POV too harshly because, damn it, people are far too blase about “collateral damage” sometimes. It deserves Greenwaldian[1] levels of outraged scorn from time to time.

    But what are the choices? Help Romney win? Is he going to be better about killing innocent people? History of his party suggests he’d be worse, but let’s at least accept that he’d never *promise* to be any better for fear of outraging his supporters. And with first-past-the-post elections, there are no other options. You can support green or libertarian party candidates, but *they won’t win*. So that has to be figured into one’s calculations.

    [1] unless there’s a greater-than-Greenwald outraged scorner out there. Which is a really scary thought.

  17. Avedon  •  Oct 3, 2012 @9:36 am

    The issue for me is what “better” means. If both sides want to do evil things, should we pick the one who is most compitent? At doing evil?

    Everyone needs to consider that question.

  18. maha  •  Oct 3, 2012 @10:35 am

    Everyone needs to consider that question.

    However, that’s not the question at hand. The question at hand is whether the U.S. can manage to remain at least an average developed first-world republic or sink into the status of third-world plutocracy. This is somewhat critical to those of us who plan to continue to live here, and whose children live here. I think the drone policy is wrong, but if there seems to be a lack of political will in challenging it, it’s because the priority is the survival of the United States as a constitutional republic that provides a decent living standard for most of its citizens. If we can get past this election reasonably intact, that would be a good time to challenge the drone policy.



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